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    I'm deciding between 2 models priced at PHP30k and PHP40k

    The differences are in red. Is it really worth the PHP10k price difference? I really like the backlit keyboard feature but I am hesitant to pay an additional PHP10k for that one feature that I like. And the other features may not be worth it since I only use my laptop to browse, email and download music from *******.

    Toshiba Satellite L745(Red/Silver) L740(Black) 14-inch Notebook - i3-2330M/2G/640G/1G GT525M/Win 7 Basic

    FREE: Toshiba 16-inch Carry Bag; Kingston 2GB Memory;DLINK Wireless Router DIR-605L

    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i3-2330M processor (2.2GHz, 3MB Cache)
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Basic
    MEMORY 2GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
    DISPLAY SIZE 14.0" WXGA HD Clear SuperView LED Backlight TFT display (16:9), resolution 1,366 x 768
    GRAPHICS NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 525M (ext 1GB VRAM)
    HARD DISK DRIVE 640GB (SATA) with shock absorbers
    CD-ROM DRIVE DVD SuperMulti Double Layer Drive (DVD±RW/RAM)
    INTERFACES 2 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB (Sleep-and-Charge) Bluetooth V3.0 w/ high speed technology
    SOUND SYSTEM Stereo Speakers, 16-bit Stereo with Intel® High Definition Audio Support
    CAMERA Built-in Web Camera and SmartFace Technology

    Toshiba Satellite E300-1006U (Champagne Gold) 14-inch Notebook PC - perfect blend of beauty and function

    FREE: Toshiba 16-inch Carry Bag PHP39,984


    In champagne gold with a sturdy aluminium chassis, this sleek and elegant Notebook PC is built with the perfect blend of beauty and function in mind - promising performance without compromising style. Also, with the Intel® Wireless Display - you can now experience seamless visuals with stunning quality that's matchless.

    More than an electronic gadget, the Satellite E300 will become an an accessory that consumers won't be able to live without. Every bit beautiful, classy and elegant with the champagne gold facade and illuminated curved, tiled keyboard, Satellire E300 is a gorgeous machine to be seen in.

    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i5-2430M processor (with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3GHz, 2.4GHz, 3MB Cache)
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
    MEMORY 4GB DDR3 1333MHz SDRAM
    DISPLAY SIZE 14.0" WXGA HD Clear SuperView LED Backlight TFT
    display (16:9), resolution 1,366 x 768
    GRAPHICS Intel® HD Graphics, up to 1696MB total available graphics memory
    HARD DISK DRIVE 640GB (SATA) with shock absorbers
    CD-ROM DRIVE DVD SuperMulti Double Layer Drive (DVD±RW/RAM)
    INTERFACES 2 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB (Sleep-and-Charge) Bluetooth V3.0 w/ high speed technology
    SOUND SYSTEM Stereo Speakers, 16-bit Stereo with Intel® High Definition Audio Support
    CAMERA Built-in Web Camera and SmartFace Technology

    http://www.villman.com/Category-Bran...ok-PCs/Toshiba
    Last edited by _Cathy_; January 22nd, 2013 at 02:14 AM.

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    kung ako, dun na ako sa mas mura.

    mahal sa villman. may mas mura pa dyan sa gilmore.

    hanap ka din ng walang kasamang OS. mas mura pa.

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    P30K vs. P40K?
    i3 vs. i5?
    NVIDIA vs. Intel for Graphics?
    2GB vs.4GB?
    Kingston 2GB Memory;DLINK Wireless Router DIR-605L vs. nothing?

    Tama ba ang pagkaka-pick-up ko ng info?

    Sis CFY, if I were you, I'd go for the P30K unit.

    The P40K units does not offer much of an advantage for regular use of a laptop.

    17.8K:snow:

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    #4
    what is the purpose? work? casual internet? gaming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    what is the purpose? work? casual internet? gaming?
    for ****

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    i'd recommend the Satellite L745 based on your usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    for ****
    Then you need lots and lots of TB space, bro...

    Plus a huge screen.... :naughty2:

    17.8K:snow:

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    pag music, browse and download lang panggagamitan sa i3 ka na sayang lang 10k na pwede mong ibili ng accessories ng laptop or kung ano pa. Pwede ka bumili ng external storage for backup. may sobra pa.

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    hanap ka ng laptop na windows 8 na ang OS.
    actually the difference in price is due to the processor i3 vs i5 the rest halos pareho lang. if you're not into gaming ang video processing ok na yung mas mura but i really suggest hanap ka ng windows 8 na ang OS.

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    #10
    If you are frequent traveller go for Ultra Book..for the price of 40K meron na siguro dyan sa manila..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    I'm deciding between 2 models priced at PHP30k and PHP40k

    The differences are in red. Is it really worth the PHP10k price difference? I really like the backlit keyboard feature but I am hesitant to pay an additional PHP10k for that one feature that I like. And the other features may not be worth it since I only use my laptop to browse, email and download music from *******.

    Toshiba Satellite L745(Red/Silver) L740(Black) 14-inch Notebook - i3-2330M/2G/640G/1G GT525M/Win 7 Basic

    FREE: Toshiba 16-inch Carry Bag; Kingston 2GB Memory;DLINK Wireless Router DIR-605L

    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i3-2330M processor (2.2GHz, 3MB Cache)
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Basic
    MEMORY 2GB DDR3 1066MHz SDRAM
    DISPLAY SIZE 14.0" WXGA HD Clear SuperView LED Backlight TFT display (16:9), resolution 1,366 x 768
    GRAPHICS NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 525M (ext 1GB VRAM)
    HARD DISK DRIVE 640GB (SATA) with shock absorbers
    CD-ROM DRIVE DVD SuperMulti Double Layer Drive (DVD±RW/RAM)
    INTERFACES 2 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB (Sleep-and-Charge) Bluetooth V3.0 w/ high speed technology
    SOUND SYSTEM Stereo Speakers, 16-bit Stereo with Intel® High Definition Audio Support
    CAMERA Built-in Web Camera and SmartFace Technology

    Toshiba Satellite E300-1006U (Champagne Gold) 14-inch Notebook PC - perfect blend of beauty and function

    FREE: Toshiba 16-inch Carry Bag PHP39,984


    In champagne gold with a sturdy aluminium chassis, this sleek and elegant Notebook PC is built with the perfect blend of beauty and function in mind - promising performance without compromising style. Also, with the Intel® Wireless Display - you can now experience seamless visuals with stunning quality that's matchless.

    More than an electronic gadget, the Satellite E300 will become an an accessory that consumers won't be able to live without. Every bit beautiful, classy and elegant with the champagne gold facade and illuminated curved, tiled keyboard, Satellire E300 is a gorgeous machine to be seen in.

    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i5-2430M processor (with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3GHz, 2.4GHz, 3MB Cache)
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium
    MEMORY 4GB DDR3 1333MHz SDRAM
    DISPLAY SIZE 14.0" WXGA HD Clear SuperView LED Backlight TFT
    display (16:9), resolution 1,366 x 768
    GRAPHICS Intel® HD Graphics, up to 1696MB total available graphics memory
    HARD DISK DRIVE 640GB (SATA) with shock absorbers
    CD-ROM DRIVE DVD SuperMulti Double Layer Drive (DVD±RW/RAM)
    INTERFACES 2 x USB 2.0, 1 x USB (Sleep-and-Charge) Bluetooth V3.0 w/ high speed technology
    SOUND SYSTEM Stereo Speakers, 16-bit Stereo with Intel® High Definition Audio Support
    CAMERA Built-in Web Camera and SmartFace Technology

    Toshiba Notebook PCs | VillMan Computers
    I have had two satellite a80 laptops and both had the same defects. Isa regalo sa akin ng isa kong pamangkin na OFW. The other is company-issued. Their hinges broke down agad after only about two years use. Service is not that good. The service center, Tricom, is fully aware that the hinges are the most common problem yet wala silang stock. kelangan pang mag order sa singapore. Putting the replacement hinges is very simple but ayaw nilang magbenta ng hinge lang. kelangan sa kanila ka din magpaservice. STAY AWAY FROM TOSHIBA IF I WERE YOU. I have been using Dell Inspiron for 3 years now and it seems very robust and rugged. So far wala problema.

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    I'll go with the i3 then upgrade ram. Ok na yung performance para sa akin.

    Pero may aesthetics so medyo ok na choice yung i5.

    Kung walang aesthetics at brand choice, Lenovo thinkpad sana. Maganda experience ko dito lalo na sa X61.

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    Naalala ko tuloy yung Toshiba laptop ng kakilala ko dati mga 3 yrs ago pa yun. Around 1 yr pa lang laptop nya may nasunog na. One day the laptop won't turn on. Nung binuksan, nasunog yung sa bandang bottom part ng LCD.

    Sir jut is right, I think you should base sa specs na lang. Nagkalat ang laptops ngayon so madaling makahanap ng specs na para sayo. Kasi yung old Toshiba laptop mo may be reliable back then, pero ngayon ganyan pa rin kaya quality ng newer Toshibas?

    And just to share we have 2 Acer notebooks (Aspire One). Very reliable, battery life is still good kahit one year mahigit na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    I'm now having second thoughts about getting a Toshiba after reading the latest replies. The hinge of my Toshiba is also broken but it only happened after 5 years or so which is why it did not bother me at all.

    I've heard good things about the lenovo but my office laptop's fan gave out sooner than my Toshiba.

    Can anyone recommend other good laptops then?

    Budget is 30k.
    Minimum 14 in screen
    Windows OS installed
    Should be available at Villman.
    Preferably Lenovo
    I suggest to get a lenovo thinkpad if you like to travel. They are really reliable. I saw one but it's 33k and there's no O.S. installed.

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    Which model? I thought kasi Toshiba is more reliable than Lenovo. But upon reading the comments here. I decided on Lenovo na lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    check mo din dito.. they offer up to 20% discount on some of their laptops..

    Laptops

    The Lenovo G480 is only Php29,999.00 there.

    Lenovo Ideapad G480 MS DOS 14 Laptop (Brown) | Lazada
    It's cheap because there's no OS installed. The retail version of Windows 7/8 costs 6.5k. It's much cheaper to buy a laptop with an OS already, unless you already have a license, or if you're fine with a pirated version of Windows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    *jut703 Can I just say WOW on your explanation

    What do you recommend that I purchase given my requirements (minimum 14 inch monitor, budget 30k range, lenovo or toshiba, available at Villman)

    OT: Is that an Altis V on your avatar?
    Given your needs and usage, this version of the G470 should be should last you at least half a decade, at only 26.5k:
    Lenovo G470 Core i3-2350M, Win7 Home Basic (Dark Brown 5932-8836) / (Red 5932-8835) Now w/ 2K OFF!!! | VillMan Computers

    The i3-2350M is plenty fast for basic computer tasks. Heck, my 5-year old Lenovo Y310 which has a Core 2 Duo T5550 (1.8 GHz) CPU still manages to do heavy Photoshop and Sony Vegas work. The G470 doesn't have a dedicated video card, but I don't think you're a gamer anyway, so you don't need it at all. To add, it already comes with Windows 7 Home Basic. Compared to the more expensive Windows 7 Home Premium, all that you really lose is the transparent taskbar, which shouldn't be much of an issue. Lastly, it'd be nice to upgrade the RAM to 4 GB for snappier performance under load. An additional 2 GB of RAM only costs 600 pesos in Gilmore, prolly a thousand if you have it installed in Villman as well.

    The only Toshiba that's got similar specs to the Lenovo I mentioned above is the L475, at 30k:
    Toshiba Satellite L745(Red/Silver) L740(Black) 14-inch Notebook - i3-2330M/2G/640G/1G GT525M/Win 7 Basic | VillMan Computers

    It's not as sulit as the Lenovo, since it's 3.5k more expensive, but comes with a slightly slower processor. You do get a slightly larger hard drive (640GB vs 500GB) and a dedicated video card, but like I said above, you don't need the latter.

    As for the color, choose what pleases you the most. Don't think of the resale value - laptops drop in price way too quickly. The depreciation on these things is mindblowing. My girlfriend got a free Acer laptop, worth roughly 26k, brand new. Since it was an extra laptop, we planned to sell it. When I checked the prices of secondhand units, I was pretty shocked that it sold for only 20k.

    With regards to the OS, I suggest you try out a Windows 8-enabled laptop in the mall first to see how you like it. I personally don't like it cuz simply exiting a program takes much more effort compared to Windows 7. I guess you'll get used to it after a while, but I'd probably sit this out until Windows 9 comes out.

    Now, if you think you're better off spending roughly 7k for slightly better specs, then the G480 and Z470 posted earlier are pretty decent deals. Personally I'd rather save the 7k for something else, but it's really up to you.

    OT: Yes, that's an Altis V

    Quote Originally Posted by LiempoBoi View Post
    I suggest to get a lenovo thinkpad if you like to travel. They are really reliable. I saw one but it's 33k and there's no O.S. installed.
    The Thinkpad you're referring to is the Thinkpad Edge. Its build quality is nothing like the classic Thinkpad line. The latter has an aluminum body, which is primarily why it's so sturdy, as compared to the Edge which is still made of plastic. Those aluminum Thinkpads cost at least 45k.
    Last edited by jut703; January 24th, 2013 at 09:47 PM.

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    Ultrabooks with their sleek aluminum chassis can be a good option.

    example: Asus Vivobook S400 with i5, 4gb, 500gb/24gb hdd/ssd, 14inch touchscreen lcd. P36K.
    Asus Vivobook S400CA-CA006H, 14In. Multi-Touch Screen, Intel Core i5-3317u CPU & Windows 8 | VillMan Computers


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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    With regards to the OS, I suggest you try out a Windows 8-enabled laptop in the mall first to see how you like it. I personally don't like it cuz simply exiting a program takes much more effort compared to Windows 7. I guess you'll get used to it after a while, but I'd probably sit this out until Windows 9 comes out.
    I agree with Jut703.

    Windows 8, car dashboard analogy:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/te...anted=all&_r=0

    Fresh Windows, but Where’s the Start Button?


    By NICK WINGFIELD
    Published: October 21, 2012

    What is harder to find are many of the conventions that have been a part of PCs since most people began using them, like the strip of icons at the bottom of the screen for jumping between applications. The mail and calendar programs are starkly minimalist. It is as if an automaker hid the speedometer, turn signals and gear shift in its cars, and told drivers to tap their dashboards to reveal those functions. There is a more conventional “desktop” mode for running Microsoft Office and older programs, though there is no way to permanently switch to it.

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    Thanks for the article.

    Now I know that I need a laptop with Win 7. I'm a creature of habit and I like things the "conventional" way. I've never had any touch screen gadget so I don't think I'd be comfortable with Win 8. One reason why I never bought a mac was because I grew up with Windows as an OS (started with Windows 3.2) and didn't want to learn a new OS anymore. Win 8 seems to be a departure from the Windows format that I'm used to. I'm not ready for it yet

    I need to purchase my laptop this weekend. I'm choosing between the two na:

    Lenovo G470 Core i3-2350M, Win7 Home Basic (Dark Brown 5932-8836) / (Red 5932-8835) Now w/ 2K OFF!!!
    http://www.villman.com/Product-Detai...470_i3_2350_w7
    P26,388

    Intel Core i3-2350M Processor (2.3 GHz/1333 MHz/ 3MB L3 Cache)
    Intel HD 3000 Graphics
    14' WXGA LED Display
    2 GB DDR3 Memory/ upgradeable to 8 GB
    500 GB SATA Hard Drive 5400 rpm
    DVD Super Multi Burner
    0.3 MP Webcam
    Bluetooth, 5 in 1 Card Reader, 3 x USB, 1 x USB/e-SATA Combo Port, HDMI
    2.7 Kgs with 6 cell batery
    Genuine W7 Home Basic

    Lenovo ideapad Z470 Pink(5930-9952) with 2GB Graphics
    http://www.villman.com/Product-Detai...o_Z470_2430_w7
    P32,892

    Processor & Cache Memory Intel Core i5-2430M Processor with

    Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
    Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology
    Intel Core i5-2410M (3MB L3 SmartCache, 2.40GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.0GHz supporting Intel® 64 architecture, Intel® Smart Cache
    Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
    Main Memory 1 x 2GB DDR3(upgradeable to 8GB)
    Display 14" WXGA LED(1366x768)
    Video Graphics & Memory Nvidia GeForce GT540M 2GB with Switchable Graphics Feature
    Hard Drive 2.5" 9.5mm SATA 750GB HDD 5400rpm
    Optical Drive Dual Layer Multiburner Drive (DVDRW)
    Video Camera 2MP Web Camera with Face Recognition
    Audio SRS Powered Premium Surround Sound
    Fax/Modem/LAN/WLAN Realtek 10/100 Mbps LAN, Lenovo Wifi, Built-in Bluetooth
    I/O 3 x USB 2.0 ports, 1* 34mm Express Card slot, RJ45, VGA, Mic-In, Headphone, 5-in-1 Multi-card Reader (SD,SD Pro/XD/MMC/MS,MS Pro), HDMI, e-SATA/USB Combo Port

    If there's very little difference in aesthetics, I'll get the G470. I just can't resist the pink! Or maybe I could just get the G470 and install a skin so my laptop will look different. My work laptop is a Lenovo and using the same brand at home would make me feel like I'm still like working
    Last edited by _Cathy_; January 25th, 2013 at 02:13 AM.

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    I just called Villman and found out that the Z470 model is not available anymore. I guess it's really not for me :tongue:

    They only have the G470 available and I only need to add P699 for additional 2 gb of RAM
    Last edited by _Cathy_; January 26th, 2013 at 01:32 PM.

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