internet cafe business

**chua_riwap** · December 30th, 2006 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by chuaed

this kind of business is already over saturated, imagine your investment will reach morethan a million then you'll let it rent for just a measly 10 to 15 pesos per hour, imagine how long will it take for you to recoup your investment... also remember kailangan original license ang operating system and office suites for each and every computer, imagine Microsoft XP Pro will cost you aroung 8 thousand then the Microsoft office around 15 - 20 thousand plus per computer iyan, then theres the electric bills...

my suggestion, do a little research, make a feasibility study... opening an internet cafe its not as easy as you might think remember money is money...

Agree ako rito. Parang kabuteng nagsulputan ang internet cafe ngayon. Yung bayad sa kuryente ang matindi.

**mikmik316** · December 30th, 2006 11:19 AM

LCDs may not be good for gaming as there will be "ghosting" due to panels response times...

pag gaming - CRT
pag surfing - FPD

And you can get discounts in software license when you buy a Volume License...

**oldblue** · December 30th, 2006 03:56 PM

ghosting? negligible na yun.widescreen naman eh, akmang-akma sa mata.

ok na din yun LCD kahit magbabad ka hindi masisira mata mo. dapat mga i-cafes of today may concern sa welfare ng mga customers kasi yun cRT parang tube lang ng TV yun eh, kahit na sabihin na low radiation, may radiation pa din.

ok lang naman kahit P30-P35/hr, what's P10-15 more kung sira naman mata mo in the future.

and also, dapat headsets kung naka-speakers ang i-cafe, parang kang dumadaan sa new year everytime pumapasok sa shop noon. sira ang eardrums mo bec. of noise pollution.

**oldblue** · December 30th, 2006 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by chuaed

this kind of business is already over saturated, imagine your investment will reach morethan a million then you'll let it rent for just a measly 10 to 15 pesos per hour, imagine how long will it take for you to recoup your investment... also remember kailangan original license ang operating system and office suites for each and every computer, imagine Microsoft XP Pro will cost you aroung 8 thousand then the Microsoft office around 15 - 20 thousand plus per computer iyan, then theres the electric bills...

my suggestion, do a little research, make a feasibility study... opening an internet cafe its not as easy as you might think remember money is money...

hmm.... you have a point. dapat yun mag-open ng business na ganito talaga ma-differentiate ang services above the rest para madali makabawi.

for example, dpat built-in infrared, bluetooth and with DVD-writer and Front USB port na yun mga computer units. dpat siguro naka-install na din yun nokia suite if ever may mga customers na kailangan download mga media sa cellphone.

with these add-on services, I see an advantage for the i-cafe owner. sino pa ba hindi hi-tech ngaun. dapat up with the times.

**dregz2006** · December 30th, 2006 10:23 PM

colossus, mikmik316, oldblue, jchiromancer

Thanks sa advice. I'll see to it that the spec of our PC will be best suited for gaming whether it's AMD or Intel. And high memory (>1GB RAM), >128MB video card.

mikmik316,
Regarding LCD for gaming, years ago sabi nila ay mabagal ang response time ng LCD kaya may ghosting and distortion. Pero recently may mga LCD na with response time na 2ms w/c is enough for gaming.

oldblue, chuaed
Yeah, I agree with you na sobrang saturated na ang market na ito. Pero what moves me is, (1) may magandang lugar dahil in the future may bubuksang school at iisa pa lang ang ka-competition, (2) may honest & wise akong IT manager na may in depth experience sa internet cafe, (3) pwedeng mag-stand out by incorporating Japanese/Korean style internet cafe (only one ika nga).

Thanks again sa mga advice.

**mikmik316** · December 31st, 2006 12:17 AM

dregz,

Yes there are 4ms even 2ms panels and I'm sure you will be shelling out big time money to get those.... affordable lang ngayon ang 8ms panels pero you have to pay more for those 4ms 2ms FPDs...

And on second thought... wala pa akong alam na nagbebenta ng 4ms FPDs dito sa Pinas... If you know one let me know....

**oldblue** · December 31st, 2006 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by dregz2006

colossus, mikmik316, oldblue, jchiromancer

Thanks sa advice. I'll see to it that the spec of our PC will be best suited for gaming whether it's AMD or Intel. And high memory (>1GB RAM), >128MB video card.

mikmik316,
Regarding LCD for gaming, years ago sabi nila ay mabagal ang response time ng LCD kaya may ghosting and distortion. Pero recently may mga LCD na with response time na 2ms w/c is enough for gaming.

oldblue, chuaed
Yeah, I agree with you na sobrang saturated na ang market na ito. Pero what moves me is, (1) may magandang lugar dahil in the future may bubuksang school at iisa pa lang ang ka-competition, (2) may honest & wise akong IT manager na may in depth experience sa internet cafe, (3) pwedeng mag-stand out by incorporating Japanese/Korean style internet cafe (only one ika nga).

Thanks again sa mga advice.

looks like magandang nga opportunity mo dyan ah. computers na lang problema mo

**dopamine101** · January 3rd, 2007 03:11 AM

i see big money is involve here. first, check what the other icafe is offering.

Kung province ang setup ng icafe mo, i think its not a good idea to cash out big money for branded/high spec PC. Talo ka kung ang rent ay 15 or 20/hr lang. Just get the pc which users can surf and play moderate Online games.

Kung ang icafe mo along taft ave. near dlsu, puede yan. Mahal per hour eh.

Pero kung katulad dito sa theresa near PUP ang icafe mo, luge ka. May mga 10/hr na icafe dito. hehehe ang mga PUP studs mga kurips pa naman.

**swimstroke** · January 3rd, 2007 05:39 AM

Ang importante muna sigurong alamin ay kung anong class ang target market. Hanggang magkano kaya ang willing silang ilabas? Dito mo kasi ibabase kung anong mga gamit ang bibilhin mo.

Malaki na ang ibinaba ng mga LCDs, and marami ng nagmimigrate from CRT, so hindi narin siguro talaga ganun katagal mabawi ang puhunan. The problem is, hindi magandang maglaro sa isang LCD kung hindi native resolution ang gamit mo. Ang 17" nasa 1280x1024 na, so mid to high end na VC na agad ang katerno nito para malaro most games * mid settings, plus yung mga lalabas pa na most probably mas mabigat ang requirements.

**Alpha_One** · January 3rd, 2007 06:02 AM

AMD is no longer the value brand it was. During the K6-III and Duron days, Athlons were cheap and Durons were dirt cheap. When AMD's prices became more "upmarket", Athlon64 had a noticeable performance lead over Intel's P4, but it was completely negated by Core 2. Flavor of the Moment is Intel. Pentium D for value (damn dirt cheap stuff), Core 2 Duo for performance.

The videocard's memory matters little (as far as the cards out on the market now is concerned), unless your clients are anal about playing at 2048x1536. It's the chipset you should be concerned about, and that mostly depends on how much you want to pay. An nVidia 7300GS or 7300GT should be more than sufficient.

If you're going CRT, you may consider buying surplus. We've generally had good experience with surplus CRT monitors, 17" ones are cheap at about P1700 each (I think). The branded ones are good these usually came from pre-built branded computers and are much better than the cheaper brand-new ones. We've not had one break yet, though the short warranty period may be a problem, it's a fair tradeoff.

Originally Posted by mikmik316

LCDs may not be good for gaming as there will be "ghosting" due to panels response times...

The whole ghosting issue is overrated. I play lots of FPS games on my two-year-old Samsung 710V with a 25ms response time, I don't even care enough to notice it. Unless you're target market are pro or hardcore gamers, it's a non-issue.