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    #21
    Won't the shipping containers also block radio waves?... like cellphones?

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    #22
    grabe siguro kainit sa loob pagsummer unless sobrang ganda ng heat insulation. also, pag nadikitan ng kuryente yung pader mo, buong bahay mo machacharge :D

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    #23
    ^^ And also, periodic maintenance sa mismong unit against rust. Considering na dito sa atin, maulan at napaka-humid. Does painting it with primer and steel paint enough to combat rust?

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    #24
    Found some better options, they are called flat packs, Fully bolt together can support 3 floors. Use the walls you want take out the ones you dont. It's essientially a super strong and cheap steel frame home in a box with smooth outer walls that you can do how ever you like.




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    #25
    well a container is considered as a box system in structural engineering lingo. it is tough when it is closed on all sides. once openings are introduced, structural integrity is reduced. in a seismic prone country like the phils, stacking vans as apartment is not wise since it's only friction that's holding the vans together. if the upper floors or vans are heavily loaded and those underneath are not, possibility of the above vans to slide off during event of a moderately strong earthquake. foundation has to be considered also. concrete slab may not be enough to support the vans depending on the soil type and subgrade preparation, resulting uneven soil settlement.

    until these vans for building are regulated by building codes, possibility na ma-downgrade ang quality due to commercialism in the long run.

    my +2cents

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by valvura View Post
    well a container is considered as a box system in structural engineering lingo. it is tough when it is closed on all sides. once openings are introduced, structural integrity is reduced. in a seismic prone country like the phils, stacking vans as apartment is not wise since it's only friction that's holding the vans together. if the upper floors or vans are heavily loaded and those underneath are not, possibility of the above vans to slide off during event of a moderately strong earthquake. foundation has to be considered also. concrete slab may not be enough to support the vans depending on the soil type and subgrade preparation, resulting uneven soil settlement.

    until these vans for building are regulated by building codes, possibility na ma-downgrade ang quality due to commercialism in the long run.

    my +2cents

    You might want to get your two cents back.

    Shipping containers when used for structural construction are bolted and/or welded together to form a single structural unit which will definitely NOT slide off each other in event of earthquake or other calamities.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; March 27th, 2009 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    You might want to get your two cents back.

    Shipping containers when used for structural construction are bolted and/or welded together to form a single structural unit which will definitely slide off each other in event of earthquake or other calamities.

    you just said it, it will slide in an earthquake. if you're in the 4th or 5th stacked level, the container can fall. it's still safe to be in an engineered 'swaying' high rise conventional building than in a 5-level container 'apartment'.

    as a single (1) closed unit, i agree with you that it's tough by all means. but by modifying it (e.g. making sidewall openings) & it's intended purpose, i might not agree. see the stacked container vans in ship terminal? these are allowed since there there's not much people around, safety just concerns a few authorized persons...but notice the PPEs of those people there? vans are commonly used in construction sites as temfacil where safety is observed. :construction:

    kung bungalo (1-storey) lang, no argument.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by valvura View Post
    you just said it, it will slide in an earthquake. if you're in the 4th or 5th stacked level, the container can fall. it's still safe to be in an engineered 'swaying' high rise conventional building than in a 5-level container 'apartment'.
    OOPS! ... I was supposed to say "NOT slide".


    as a single (1) closed unit, i agree with you that it's tough by all means. but by modifying it (e.g. making sidewall openings) & it's intended purpose, i might not agree. see the stacked container vans in ship terminal? these are allowed since there there's not much people around, safety just concerns a few authorized persons...but notice the PPEs of those people there? vans are commonly used in construction sites as temfacil where safety is observed.
    Simple stacked containers will have problems but since it will be bolted and/or welded together, it will form a single unit which can resist such calamities. Also having the containers firmly welded to anchor points embedded into a concrete foundation will prevent the entire structure shifting as well. Cross bracing can be added later to increase the overall structural stiffness.


    I googled and found this:
    http://www.containercity.com/gallery.html

    It just shows that people worrying about a building made from containers is unfounded. If more advanced countries have used containers for buildings, why not us?
    Last edited by ghosthunter; March 27th, 2009 at 05:37 PM.

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    #29
    Well looks like China has a bunch to choose from as far as ways these come, and at about 2800USD a piece it's not to bad of a deal. These will withstand a lot more than you typical hollow block home that's for sure.

    This is a flatpack unpacked and connected. You don't need a crane to move the flatpack just a normal forklift will do. Mind you these come with all the interior walls and electrical already installed.







    Plus you could space them apart and build a section in-between using steel beams or just fill the gap with a concrete foundation and you just gave yourself more sqm of space.




    So basically this.



    Becomes this in few hours with of labor. Plus it can be linked together and you take out wall panels or add your own. Can something nicer be built for 119,000P a unit, Pre-wired, rain guttered, insulated, lights and outlets installed?


    You can get these in 40ft as well. The more I look at this the more interesting it gets. How many poor would be better off in something like this instead of a tiny sqarter shack. How many could affoard a nice 2 or 3 bedroom house on a small spot of land using this system. And the interior redecoration ideals are only limited to the person or there budget, Hell I'm fairly well off in the Military and owning my own business and I see the advantage of these. I'm talking to a contractor right now to see if we can get the clearances to actually do it.

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    #30
    Here's one more quick question, what do you think the customs fee's would be on one of these. It's essentially just 4 collapsible shipping containers.

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