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    anyone on this pls. ive dsl connection using an adsl modem connected to my existing telephone line. the isp provider offers different plans different speed different price. i just wanna know sa adsl connection ba nacocontrol or naiseset ba ng isp ang speed ng connection kapag adsl connection yung shared siya sa tel line? kasi i subscribed sa 256 kbps connection. they told me that maintained yung speed but under my observation and several speed test im getting different result. like on daytime/ office hours im getting speeds sometimes as low as 30 kbps tp 60 kbps. tapos minsan bigla 128 to 300 kbps for several minutes tapos magdodrop uli. tapos kapag 10pm naman or early am im getting 1mbps. super bilis talaga. bakit sabi nila 256 kbps maintained tapos naabot ng 500 kbps to 1 mbps. my point is i subscribed sa 256 kbps then ang kapitbahay ko subscribed sa 128 kbps but we are getting identical results. almost parehas din specs ng pc namin. my point is baka wala naman sila control sa speed bakit sila ng ooffer ng different plans? di kaya pangloloko yun? same connection lang pala different prices. what do you think guys?

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    AFAIK they can control how much speed you can get.

    like sa office namin, nakasubscribe lang kami for 768Kbps (lumang plan pa), but we are getting 1.5mbps - 2mbps. may tinawagan lang yun nagkabit sa amin dito sa office nila(PLDT) tas biglang naging ganun na ang binabatong speed sa amin. (kilala kasi namin yun nagkabit eh), ang kapalit nga lang kelangan namin pakainin yun nagkabit hehehe at konting tip na 300 petot.

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    controllable ng providers ang bandwidth ng subscribers

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    ah ganun po ba.

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    Port speed = as advertised
    CIR = commited information rate, not advertised, hindi ka bababa dito dapat-usually nasa type of package ito..

    Say for example you subscribed for DSL packageX 512k and 1/16 CIR, 512k ang port speed pero pwedeka bumaba but not less than 512/16 = 32k..Kaya kung complain ka at within CIR ang speedtest mo ay can't contest..

    Sometimes nag bburst ang speed more than the port speed, akala ng iba nagkamali lang pero madami ito dahilan like..human error at mali ang profile na naka config sa port mo, and hindi pa congested ang multiplexer where you are connected..

    DSL ports(client) share bandwidth in the multiplexer but commited speed should not change.

    ADSL and Telephone port have different multiplexers they only share the Physical Wire from central office going to your home and splitted through the ADSL filter..ADSL modems usually configured as passthrough device kaya no speed gain kahit tweak ito

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    add ko lang kapag wala bang dial tone ang telepono pwede pa ding gamitin ang dsl?

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    Bundled(telephone+dsL) ba ang wireline mo? kung oo, depende.

    Kung naputol ang wire sa labas like nasabitan ng truck..sigurado wala ka na dialtone at wala din dsL. Kung nag down ang telephone switch pero naka-up ang dsL mux ng telco, telepono lang ang mag ddown sayo and vv..

    Kaya mas okey yung nagpapakabit na separate ang dsL sa telephone wireline.

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    oo bundled magkasama siya sa isang line. nawalan kasi kami ng dial tone ng 2 days unknown cause. engot naman kasi ng csr ng isp hindi daw nya sure if wala din dsl kapag walang dial tone

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    Quote Originally Posted by step22 View Post
    oo bundled magkasama siya sa isang line. nawalan kasi kami ng dial tone ng 2 days unknown cause. engot naman kasi ng csr ng isp hindi daw nya sure if wala din dsl kapag walang dial tone
    Bro: No DIAL-TONE, No DSL. Well, MOST OF THE TIME, that is. hehe
    Last edited by woohoo; November 25th, 2008 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by step22 View Post
    oo bundled magkasama siya sa isang line. nawalan kasi kami ng dial tone ng 2 days unknown cause. engot naman kasi ng csr ng isp hindi daw nya sure if wala din dsl kapag walang dial tone
    same case with you, nung una ok lang since most of the time voice lang ang nawala sa akin and most of the time pwede naman mag hand phone, same reason ang binigay ng CSR nila pag walang dial tone walang dsl, magulo kausap ang mga yan, hanggang sa nawala na rin ang dsl ko. kaya oras oras ko na sila finofollow up, it turns out nagloloko na yung sa main box nila and they have to get a new line para sa akin, after makabitan ng bago, ayos na.. dapat lang kulitin mo. kulang na nga lang mamura mo sila eh.. hay

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    ah ok. add ko na rin i think hindi pa naman out of topic, pero is there anyway na pwdeng pabilisin pa ang connection that you can do by your own? i mean may palitan na config or settings? anyone? tnx again

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    Quote Originally Posted by step22 View Post
    ah ok. add ko na rin i think hindi pa naman out of topic, pero is there anyway na pwdeng pabilisin pa ang connection that you can do by your own? i mean may palitan na config or settings? anyone? tnx again
    Meron mga nagbabanggit nung MTU chuchu (paki-google na lang), pero ako hindi ko na ginalaw... tanggap ko na... Kapag maulan, either laging nadidisco o talagang ayaw mag-sync. :sad:

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    tanggap ko na... Kapag maulan, either laging nadidisco o talagang ayaw mag-sync.
    Bro, pacheck mona yan..baka nababasa ang linya mo..may open na splicing yan sa labas..Pede mo access yung modem and check adsl line performance like crc errors, code violations, etc..capture mo as basis for your claims when reporting to csr. Hindi dapat bumitaw ang sync indicator kahit umulan, kahit kidlat dapat hindi nagugulat ang modem..

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    Salamat sa tip... but how do I do "Pede mo access yung modem and check adsl line performance like crc errors, code violations, etc..capture mo" ?

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    woohoo where ba location mo? what are speeds you are getting? and what is the speed you are subscribed to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by step22 View Post
    add ko lang kapag wala bang dial tone ang telepono pwede pa ding gamitin ang dsl?
    There were times walang dial tone phone pero may internet connection.

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    [SIZE=2][SIZE=2][SIZE=2]wohooo[/SIZE]..[SIZE=2]depende sa vendor ng modem at firmware ng isp na naka load sa modem..try to research, usually web interface console ip 192.168.1.1. ano po location nyo?
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    [SIZE=2]simple isolation of problem is to monitor dsl sync indicator and continously ping the nearest gateway to your isp..high bit errors on your line and attenuation may slow down performance but usually bibitaw na ang modem kung talagang malaki ang bit-error-rate ng line..ang badtrip jan kung sabay nawal pati ang dialtone ng telepon..dimo maitawag sa csr..harhar[/SIZE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by step22 View Post
    woohoo where ba location mo? what are speeds you are getting? and what is the speed you are subscribed to?
    paying for 384kbps, getting ~1Mbps...

    location: Central Luzon...

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    are you using a router specifically linksys routers. palitan mo firmware mo, palpak built-in firmware ng linksys

    ako I used to use DD-WRT nacocontrol ko pa QOS or Quality of service per pc connected. but now I use Tomato kasi mas simple at never na ako na-disconnect 5 month straight

    walang kwenta makipag-usap sa CS ng pldt puro call center hindi nila ma-debug talaga problema. btw, linksys firmware is easily intercepted lalo na kung accessing ka sa mga sites na hindi certified like **** for example.

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    My disconnection problems are not caused by my router, kasi, kahit noong wala pa akong router, mas grabe pa ang sync problems ng modem ko... lalo na nga kapag malakas ang ulan.

    Masama lang daw talaga ang quality ng lines dito sa village namin. Noong una nga, 1 day lang tumakbo ang modem (after installation), tapos, ayaw nang mag-sync. Naayos naman, huwag lang uulan nang malakas.

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