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    Just wanna hear your opinions; i'm wrestling between two upgrade strategies. To put things into proper perspective:

    - i don't travel much;
    - i don't lug a laptop around daily, but occassionally i may need to bring one for support calls.
    - 13 inches seems like a sweet spot for me -- too much scrolling going aroudn on an 11- incher
    - i really don't need the extra power, Celeron or Pentium M should be fine for me -- mostly browsing, reading docs, Excel, coding(possibly Eclipse)
    - most of the time it will be used around at house, >6 hours battery life is a want, not a need




    1. Buy cheap, light notebook, 20-30k(Dell Inspiron 11/13 or Asus X series), upgrade every 2 years

    Pros:
    - upgrade options(bump up RAM to 8GB, storage to SSD)
    - if it gets stolen or damaged, hindi masakit
    - don't mind the extra thickness/weight


    Cons:
    - build quality generally sucks at this price range
    - extra weight
    - typical battery life of 4-5 hours
    - i expect to upgrade every 2 years




    2. Buy midrange/ultrabook, 35-60k(Asus Zenbook, Dell XPS 13), upgrade every 3 years

    Pros:
    - super light
    - >6 hour battery life
    - while cost is an issue, i don't mind spending extra if it lasts longer


    Cons:
    - cost
    - not too many upgrade options; expensive to upgrade
    - i'd expect to upgrade every 3 years or so
    - masakit kung masira/manakaw




    The upgrade options are a gray area; who knows by the time i need to, baka phase out na rin yung components.
    tia

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    Apple Macbooks seem to have high resale value. So if you upgrade every few years, it might be a good option.

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    Why upgrade every 2-3 years?

    1. Get a laptop with ample RAM from the start. Windows OSes love RAM. 8 GB should be plenty.

    2. Choose a laptop with an Intel CPU and graphics. I think they sip the least power.

    3. Make sure the laptop still has a user-replaceable battery. Many laptops now have an internal battery (a la tablets) that require bringing to a shop for service. Disregard if you don't mind an internal battery.

    I have a 14" ASUS G46VW gaming laptop from 2013. Although it will have a harder time running new games, it's still overkill for my non-gaming tasks. I plan to keep it for a very long time.

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    imho. you will never know when you need the power and the battery life until such time you need it.
    and you will never appreciate the lightness of a laptop until there such a time that you need to carry it often.

    i would agree on the macbook.

    i carry around a lenovo thinkpad e130. 11 incher, 6 hour battery life, Intel i5, 8 GB RAM for three years now. ok pa din.
    windows 10 primary OS, ubuntu and kali linux on virtual box.

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    It easy to replace internal battery of laptops. There are instructions in YouTube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    It easy to replace internal battery of laptops. There are instructions in YouTube.
    There are also YT videos that show how to modify a car engine or replace it components. Not all people are comfortable taking apart devices, esp those that are not supposed to be user-serviceable.

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    slightly OT: Dell is refreshing ther Inspiron line...now with backlit keyboards and aluminum chassis

    Dell’s latest 2-in-1 laptops include models with 11 to 17 inch screens

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    I guess I too am in the market for a new laptop, this time for my youngest kid. She'll be needing one for the next school year. When my eldest kid used to attend school there, she got a MacBook free. I guess the school lost the contract. So now, students have to bring their own laptops.

    Something cheap, something small like this one is what I have in mind.

    Lenovo Thinkpad Premium 11.6"

    • Intel Celeron Quad-Core N2940 1.83GHz
    • 4GB DDR3L Memory
    • 128GB SSD
    • 11.6-inch Anti-Glare Display (1366 x 768)
    • No Optical Drive
    • Windows 10 Professional 64 bit


    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; June 5th, 2016 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    I guess I too am in the market for a new laptop, this time for my youngest kid. She'll be needing one for the next school year. When my eldest kid used to attend school there, she got a MacBook free. I guess the school lost the contract. So now, students have to bring their own laptops.

    Something cheap, something small like this one is what I have in mind.

    Lenovo Thinkpad Premium 11.6"

    • Intel Celeron Quad-Core N2940 1.83GHz
    • 4GB DDR3L Memory
    • 128GB SSD
    • 11.6-inch Anti-Glare Display (1366 x 768)
    • No Optical Drive
    • Windows 10 Professional 64 bit





    Be mindful of the battery life sir. There are a few Chromebooks that have excellent battery life, but apps-wise there are severe limitations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Be mindful of the battery life sir. There are a few Chromebooks that have excellent battery life, but apps-wise there are severe limitations.
    The requirements were for a Windows-based laptop with 2 hours battery life. I thought about lending her my old 2013 14" ASUS G46VW which still gets around 7 hrs battery life. But, I don't think she's careful enough to take care of it.

    That Thinkpad should be able to get at least 4 hours out of its battery. Plenty enough for school.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; June 5th, 2016 at 09:41 AM.

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    i may just opt for the Zenbook. i have some doubts about the build quality of inspirons, which is after all meant to be entry level. Bili na lang ng LED light ^_^

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    We're planning to get the Macbook air 128 GB for 75 k for my wife. Sulit ba mga sir for the price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    We're planning to get the Macbook air 128 GB for 75 k for my wife. Sulit ba mga sir for the price?

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    san mo kukunin yan? parang mahal... imho, the latest Macbook air is at 256 GB SSD at $ 829.00 or around 40k, considering taxes and duties, it can go as max as around 70k, but with 256 GB SSD na.

    i would suggest that if you are going to get a mac, go via authorized resellers para wala na ding problema sa warranty. or get it from the US and have it sent to you.

    Macs are sulit, maski may kamahalan ng konti. durability and the stability of MacOS. dalawang unit nga namin dito sa office, 10 years old na yung macs, parang bago pa din ang itsura and performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    san mo kukunin yan? parang mahal... imho, the latest Macbook air is at 256 GB SSD at $ 829.00 or around 40k, considering taxes and duties, it can go as max as around 70k, but with 256 GB SSD na.

    i would suggest that if you are going to get a mac, go via authorized resellers para wala na ding problema sa warranty. or get it from the US and have it sent to you.

    Macs are sulit, maski may kamahalan ng konti. durability and the stability of MacOS. dalawang unit nga namin dito sa office, 10 years old na yung macs, parang bago pa din ang itsura and performance.
    Sorry, MACBOOK model pala..
    256gb= Around 64 K, 512gb= at 79K.. What could you recommned? Purpose is replacement on our old laptop bumigay na, more on adobe, MS files emails lang. Ani GB kaya sulit and sa mganda kumuha? And dealer lang options namin na kukunan
    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    san mo kukunin yan? parang mahal... imho, the latest Macbook air is at 256 GB SSD at $ 829.00 or around 40k, considering taxes and duties, it can go as max as around 70k, but with 256 GB SSD na.

    i would suggest that if you are going to get a mac, go via authorized resellers para wala na ding problema sa warranty. or get it from the US and have it sent to you.

    Macs are sulit, maski may kamahalan ng konti. durability and the stability of MacOS. dalawang unit nga namin dito sa office, 10 years old na yung macs, parang bago pa din ang itsura and performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    Sorry, MACBOOK model pala..
    256gb= Around 64 K, 512gb= at 79K.. What could you recommned? Purpose is replacement on our old laptop bumigay na, more on adobe, MS files emails lang. Ani GB kaya sulit and sa mganda kumuha? And dealer lang options namin na kukunan



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    depends on your budget. at 15k difference, i would get the 256 GB and store my files in the cloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    depends on your budget. at 15k difference, i would get the 256 GB and store my files in the cloud.
    Thanks bro. Kung san sulit ang pera don kami

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    We're planning to get the Macbook air 128 GB for 75 k for my wife. Sulit ba mga sir for the price?

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    I don't like the Macbook Air because it's much slower than the 13" Macbook Pro.

    Processor palang, ang layo na. The Mac Air only has a 1.6 GHz i5 CPU, while the Retina Macbook Pro has a 2.7 GHz i5. 1.1 GHz is a big improvement in terms of processing performance. Lalo na because you say you use Adobe. I use Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premier, and I've tried it both on my Macbook Pro and my friend's Macbook Air. Ang layo ng performance, especially in the future when apps become more resource-intensive. Remember, hindi upgradeable ang specs ng Macbooks so you better be relatively future-proof para hindi kagad maobsolete laptop mo.

    In terms of portability, hindi naman mabigat or malaki dalhin yung MBP 13". The slightly thinner Macbook Air is not worth giving up the better specs of the Macbook Pro. 0.5 lbs lang na mas magaan ang Air sa Pro.



    In fact, mas maliit pa nga ng konti ang overall dimensions ng Pro:



    Lastly, remember to get at least 256GB SSD storage. Today's Macbooks don't have upgradeable storage so pag naka-128GB ka lang tapos napuno (apps and OS palang aabot ka na 100 GB), wala kang choice kundi magdala ng external hard drive lagi which is such a hassle.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I don't like the Macbook Air because it's much slower than the 13" Macbook Pro.

    Processor palang, ang layo na. The Mac Air only has a 1.6 GHz i5 CPU, while the Retina Macbook Pro has a 2.7 GHz i5. 1.1 GHz is a big improvement in terms of processing performance. Lalo na because you say you use Adobe. I use Photoshop, Lightroom, and Premier, and I've tried it both on my Macbook Pro and my friend's Macbook Air. Ang layo ng performance, especially in the future when apps become more resource-intensive. Remember, hindi upgradeable ang specs ng Macbooks so you better be relatively future-proof para hindi kagad maobsolete laptop mo.

    In terms of portability, hindi naman mabigat or malaki dalhin yung MBP 13". The slightly thinner Macbook Air is not worth giving up the better specs of the Macbook Pro. 0.5 lbs lang na mas magaan ang Air sa Pro.



    In fact, mas maliit pa nga ng konti ang overall dimensions ng Pro:



    Lastly, remember to get at least 256GB SSD storage. Today's Macbooks don't have upgradeable storage so pag naka-128GB ka lang tapos napuno (apps and OS palang aabot ka na 100 GB), wala kang choice kundi magdala ng external hard drive lagi which is such a hassle.



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    Fu**. Thankful nag seek muna ako advice dito. Muntik na magkamali. Then why is it mas mahal mcbook vs mcbook pro 13?
    Now, time to convince my wife dahil ang gusto niya lang rose gold LOL. At wala ata nun sa macbook pro 13.

    Thanks boss Juts. From my build on my desktop(last year) to this. You're the best bro!



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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    Fu**. Thankful nag seek muna ako advice dito. Muntik na magkamali. Then why is it mas mahal mcbook vs mcbook pro 13?
    Now, time to convince my wife dahil ang gusto niya lang rose gold LOL. At wala ata nun sa macbook pro 13.

    Thanks boss Juts. From my build on my desktop(last year) to this. You're the best bro!



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    Mas mahal ang Macbook Pro 13 Retina ng konti sa Macbook Air 13. Ang mas mura is yung Macbook Pro 13 na non-Retina. Eto yung medyo makapal (kasi may CD slot) tapos 500GB na hard drive (not SSD) ang storage.

    Yung Rose Gold is for the Macbook lang. Mas maganda itsura nun kaysa Macbook Air, kaso bitin din specs. Macbook Pro lang talaga yung sulit yung specs - kahit mas mahal, at least mas pangmatagalan.

    Macbook (2015) - 55k
    Macbook (2016) - 60k
    Macbook Air 13 - 51k
    Macbook Pro 13 (non-Retina) - 45k
    Macbook Pro 13 (Retina) - 63k

    If you're on a tight budget, get the older non-Retina MBP. Mas makapal nga lang and you'll have to upgrade RAM to 8GB (this is the last upgradeable MBP, yung Retina is soldered so di na nauupgrade). Pwede ka rin bumili ng 256 or 512 GB SSD para bumilis response time. So aabot ka rin 53k but you'll have a much faster laptop than either Macbook or Macbook Air.

    Kung kaya naman ng budget, Macbook Pro Retina na.

    Good luck bro, happy to help. [emoji4]




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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Mas mahal ang Macbook Pro 13 Retina ng konti sa Macbook Air 13. Ang mas mura is yung Macbook Pro 13 na non-Retina. Eto yung medyo makapal (kasi may CD slot) tapos 500GB na hard drive (not SSD) ang storage.

    Yung Rose Gold is for the Macbook lang. Mas maganda itsura nun kaysa Macbook Air, kaso bitin din specs. Macbook Pro lang talaga yung sulit yung specs - kahit mas mahal, at least mas pangmatagalan.

    Macbook (2015) - 55k
    Macbook (2016) - 60k
    Macbook Air 13 - 51k
    Macbook Pro 13 (non-Retina) - 45k
    Macbook Pro 13 (Retina) - 63k

    If you're on a tight budget, get the older non-Retina MBP. Mas makapal nga lang and you'll have to upgrade RAM to 8GB (this is the last upgradeable MBP, yung Retina is soldered so di na nauupgrade). Pwede ka rin bumili ng 256 or 512 GB SSD para bumilis response time. So aabot ka rin 53k but you'll have a much faster laptop than either Macbook or Macbook Air.

    Kung kaya naman ng budget, Macbook Pro Retina na.

    Good luck bro, happy to help. [emoji4]




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    Kung gagastos narin sulitin na hehehe. Any shop you can recommend around manila? Yung apple accredited with warranty.

    Wala ba balita baka may upcoming new models?

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