Best window type Aircon - Carrier?

[_Qwerty_]

may bagong labas ang carrier for small rooms diba?? di ko lang matandaan ang name.. magkano kaya yun?

[anthon05]

meron sila advertise bago Condura extreme for extreme conditions.

itong summer na ito grabe daming aircon nasira sa office namin mga gamit more than 15 yrs na bumigay na rin sa init. national brand.

i think humina na nga quality ng Carrier. dati mahina ang 10 yrs kahit more than 37 deg pa ang summer. now kasi talagang iba ang init masusubukan ang

tibay ng aircon. pag napaclean ko yung 1.5 carrier ko makikita ko kung kaya pa niya magpalamig ng room namin. 1 yr old palang unit.

dapat bilhin ko talaga last year yung panasonic, walang stock ang western that time. yung vent namin mainit lang talaga baka may factor nga. bakit sa saudi more than 40degrees kaya pa ng mga aircon nila dapat here pang saudi condition na

[likot]

may bagong labas ang carrier for small rooms diba?? di ko lang matandaan ang name.. magkano kaya yun?

Nakita ko rin yun. Parang mas ok pa yung luma. Yung bago parang expose sa dust check niyo yung gilid.

Free AC cleaning ang Carrier good for 1 year. (2x)

Kakapalinis ko lang kanina ng Carrier namin .5HP sobrang dumi na pala ng AC namin without touching it for 8 months. Kahapon ako tumawag then pumunta ngayon yung naglinis.

[kotiko]

I'd say Carrier - Condura - Kelvinator are still very much good choices. Among the three, Kelvinator is the cheapest although its argueable that all three are pretty much the same.

Panasonics are as expensive as Carriers I think, but I'd say have also good quality.

When we were canvassing at Ansons, they say that the Samsung aircons had the most returns/repairs. I just don't know how accurate their statements are.

By the way, I'm selling a Kelvinator 1HP Window Type [Energy Series] (just a month+ used) for 12k. We ended up getting the wrong horsepower for the room size which is just about 20+ square meters. PM if anyone's interested/more info! Thanks!

[Horsepower]

haha, I was in the same shoes a few weeks ago.

I ended up getting an LG 1.5hp (LA150R).

Initially, I was decided to buy Panasonic being a believer of their splits. Pero ang nipis ng caja ng Panasonic, super lambot

Next Hitachi, ang mahal. Lalo yung inverter na window type, 45K :rofl:

Next York kasi York lagi nakikita ko sa ibang bansa. Pero mababa ang cooling capacity for the same hp (12,000kj/h) vs LG150R (13,200kj/hr).

Nakita ko rin samsung but with my bad experiences from that product from IT to Appliances, I skipped it. No way they can improve in a decade, I thought. I was also told na ito may pinakamaraming returns (no big surprise there. haaha!)

Condura/Carrier, ok sana kasi local brand but heck bad experience (madali mabulok condenser nito). Pangit din fit and finish. Tapos nung canvass time, super mahal. 20K++ for a 1.5hp.

so it went down between York (EER 10.XX) and LG (EER 11.3).

So yun na, ok na ako sa York kasi made in Philippines, I wanna help my fellow countrymen by buying a locally assembled product. Naasar lang ako sa agent, sobrang gulo kausap. Nung pinapa-deliver ko na, Manual lang daw meron sila. Eh sa start pa lang ng negotiation, alam nilang remote lang ang gusto ko. I'd have to wait for three days for the York. yung LG, pwede ko na agad bilhin sa mall. Went to the mall and bought the LG (15k lang) and brought it home. Next morning, installed na agad (me, dad and our workers).

Biglaan din ang purchase na yun kasi super init na talaga. Kahit mataas ang ceiling ng new haus ko, di kaya ang init. Buti na lang I used tek screws sa roof so papalagyan ko ng reflective insulation soon.

I bought LG for the ff reasons:

1. Anti-corrosion treated ang condenser and evaporator. Yung York sa harap lang. Babad sa tubig ang condenser so bulok ito after sometime pag walang anti-rust.

Worst yung Carrier/Condura, paint lang. Pag hinawi mo yung fins, kita mo na bare. It's like a bad joke.

2. Cheap for a branded WACU. got it for 15k (from the 17k SRP) lang after some arm-twisting.

3. Nano gold filter (anti-bacteria/germs filter)

4. 5 years warranty sa Compressor, Evaporator, Condenser, Tubing, adjoining parts. Kaya nung nag-offer ng 2yr Warranty extension yung automatic centre for around 3k, natawa ako because it's obviously not needed.

5. I've had good experience with LG products from IT to appliances.

6. I had positive vibe with it (very important). I also used this to judge a unit when i bought a laptop a few days ago (K42JR ATI 5470). I didn't feel good about the first unit. This model is highly sought for, for its ATI 5470 1GB discrete videocard so me asking another unit was ridiculous to say the least. Sabi ko, pag last unit na ito, it means the Supreme Being wants me to get a Six-core desktop (AMD X6). Kaso meron stock. Super fresh and I felt positive about it. Handed over the cash and went home. hehe


Cons:

Minsan masakit sa ilong at kamay ang lamig nya. Its temp goes down to 16 degrees. You have to measure your room first. Dapat ata 1hp lang kinuha ko, but I'd rather have excess than lacking kasi. For now, I just keep it at 20-22, lower than that, namamanhid na ang fingers ko sa paa at kamay.

Sounds like a WACU (you can hear the compressor no matter how silent it is, and yung wind turbulence). Initially gusto ko talaga split kaso I've read unconfirmed statements na mahal daw cleaning nun because I'd have to charge freon every time. Since I'm crazy about cleanliness esp in my house, I've let go of split muna since I didn't have the time to verify.

pero if silence is your no.1 priority, split is unbeatable.

[CVT]

I'd say Carrier - Condura - Kelvinator are still very much good choices. Among the three, Kelvinator is the cheapest although its argueable that all three are pretty much the same.

Agree there... Pare-pareho lang sila... Kaha lang at brand ang nagbago.... And, they're not using Matsushita compressors since a few years ago as part of their product cost reduction....

10K:dance1:

[anthon05]

yung 1.5 hp carrier was serviced yesterday. ito yung 2nd free cleaning.

mag 1yr na rin unit. sabi ng tech low on freon daw. since under wty pa i called

up carrier to sched pick up and repair. what i like about carrier is their service, yung nagpa clean sched ako next day lang nandyan na.

and the tech is honest to suggest na kailangan pa ayos ko habang under warranty pa.

kanina nag ice na nga unit so it means low sa freon.


sa mga bibili have to make sure the service is good. ang na try ko lang sa GE and carrier. sa panasonic kaya mabilis din?

[chua_riwap]

yung 1.5 hp carrier was serviced yesterday. ito yung 2nd free cleaning.

mag 1yr na rin unit. sabi ng tech low on freon daw. since under wty pa i called

up carrier to sched pick up and repair. what i like about carrier is their service, yung nagpa clean sched ako next day lang nandyan na.

and the tech is honest to suggest na kailangan pa ayos ko habang under warranty pa.

kanina nag ice na nga unit so it means low sa freon.


sa mga bibili have to make sure the service is good. ang na try ko lang sa GE and carrier. sa panasonic kaya mabilis din?

Totoo kaya ito? Ganito rin ang nangyayari sa AC ko dito sa Saudi. Sabi naman ng iba....may "barado", kaya kelangan daw linisin, hindi raw sa freon yun. Ano ba talaga?

LG yung AC. 5 yrs na rin. Ok naman siya, kaso medyo malakas yung ugong.

[XTO]

agree, barado kaya nagye-yelo. also pirming naka todo thermostat tapos marumi filter so yelo rin abutin ng evaporator and tubo. sobra naman wala pa one year lang sakit na ng ulo? what more pag nag 5 years yan?

sa cleaning, depende yan kung peak (summer tulad ngayon) kahit i-sched nyo ng weekend, tatawagan ka ng weekdays para pumunta or di darating ng sched date. tip, palinis kayo yung di kasagsagan ng init or not summer months.

kahit sa tsikot ganun din sigurado walang pila

[pup2]

Yep. Pag nagyeyelo, chances are madumi. Minsan nare remedyuhan pag tinaas mo temp o pag nilakasan mo ang fan setting pero it's a sign that the unit needs cleaning.

IMO, kulang ang twice a year cleaning ng AC. Kahit every week nililinis ang filter sa loob, napupuno pa din ng dirt and mud yung likod at loob ng unit eh. 2-4 months should do the trick in this polluted island of ours.

Also, why try to save much on cleaning? It will enable the unit to work more efficiently and cool off the room more and maybe even consume less electricity in doing so? Plus you give a fellow pinoy aircon repair technician a decent job.

[birdpoop]

I'd say Carrier - Condura - Kelvinator are still very much good choices. Among the three, Kelvinator is the cheapest although its argueable that all three are pretty much the same.

Agree. If you visit Concepcion's factory, they churn out essentially the same aircons and at the end of the line, put on different logos.

http://www.ccac.com.ph/

[sugarkane]

I am not considering a Carrier anymore because I wasn't happy with the last unit I bought. Our 19 yr old carrier cools better than the most recent (less than 10 yrs) unit we got

[birdpoop]

As with everything else, "they don't make 'em like they used to"

Actually, with Carrier/Kelvinator/Condura or National/Panasonic, the important things here are to go for the best warranty service offer and work only with the authorized service center near you

[shadow]

gusto ko lang sabihin huwag kayo bumili ng mga .25, .50, .75 HP. kalokohan yan. minimum 1 HP kunin niyo

[lancy09]

Kolin ko sa bahay 1HP na manual, buhay pa at walang naging problem. 5 years and counting. I bought it for 5000 pesos only from the factory. Class B ata ang tawag nila.

[chua_riwap]

We have 2 Kolin 1HP gamit namin. Meron din kaming Carrier 1.5 HP. Yung Carrier, 7 years na, in good working condition pa rin. Lahat ng ACs namin, every 6 months ang linis. We switched to Kolin kasi, "no drip" siya. Yung Carrier namin, grabe ang tulo ng tubig. We have to install a hose para di mabasa yung ground floor namin, kasi parang may gripo yung likod ng Carrier, lakas ng tulo.....

[_Qwerty_]

meron na ding no drip na carrier diba..

[james00112233]

may bagong labas ang carrier for small rooms diba?? di ko lang matandaan ang name.. magkano kaya yun?

yun ba yung iCool.....

[moejun2]

bought my national 1 HP sometime in 2001. i only had it cleaned regularly the first year, the next time i had it cleaned was in 2005, then 2007. it was still cold last week but i decided to have it cleaned last sunday. now, it's super cold, what a change!

i don't know about the panasonic's today but my national is tough

[boybi]

National/Panasonic pa rin ang the best A/C for me. Nag try ako ng Samsung for my office, 1 month after the warranty expired, bumigay na yung fan.