2006 Turkish GP

[CVT]

On a side note, after the race although Schumacher was very happy for his teammate Massa, you could plainly see the dissapointment in his eyes.

And a bitter-sweet win for FM. You can see this from his actions during the awarding and the interview. He said before that he is there to support MS, as he-FM- has no chance for the driver's championship, and Ferrari. It could have been a reversal of role for him and MS, were if not for him taking the pole during the last stage of qualifying....

Ferrari did what they can, given the situation, on the first pit stop,- quickly service FM's car and add a few more petrol on MS's car (vs. FA),- but MS failed to deliver the goods for this strategy during the second pit stop.

Not to take anything from FM,- he deserved to win last night.

[sirmykel]

bobo talaga... late deployment ng SC

[Eismann]

Kaya pa ni Schumy at ng Ferrari yan...4 races to go. But not to take anything away from Alonso, he drove splendidly yesterday also.

[niky]

I agree with mazdamazda, this goes to show how good Alonso is, despite the disadvantages he had. To note: Schumi kept catching up with him in the slow corners. That means the lack of mass dampers does have a drastic effect on the car, as Giancarlo's no-show in the race clearly shows.

This will be a race down to the wire, and with Alonso's steadiness and grace under pressure, it will be hard for Schumi, but Ferrari seems set to win back the constructor's crown.

And again, go Jenson!

[4wrider]

Mas maganda sana kung naka overtake si Schumi at least closer ang laban for next races

[metatron]

is it me or parang di magaling pumili ng scenes yung race director last night. parang di sya agad nagfofocus sa key car battles ng race. may topak pa yung timing screen di tuloy makita agad kung gaano na kalaki lead ni FM kay FA at kay MS.

sobrang kawawa si MS after ng safety car. the only strategy i can think of that could have worked for him was for ferrari to keep massa on the track while schumi dived into the pits first. pero sobrang sacrificial lamb role ni massa dun sa setup na yun.

[jeff1101]

sobrang kawawa si MS after ng safety car. the only strategy i can think of that could have worked for him was for ferrari to keep massa on the track while schumi dived into the pits first. pero sobrang sacrificial lamb role ni massa dun sa setup na yun.

It would have worked but I guess It would be an unpopular move, Seeing as it is quite obvious that they were favoring MS over Massa.

On a technical note I find it fascinating how Schumi's driving habits differ from Alonso. Did you guys notice when both the Brake and Throttle indicators were shown on TV that on exits to the apexes of corners after the Initial brake that Schumi would "blip" his throttle (i.e. the Throttle bar graph would go up and down in rapid succession) while Alonso just plain floored it?

I wonder how that affects both driver's cornering speed. Did MS simply did that out of habit or was he conserving his engines??

[bumags]

I agree with mazdamazda, this goes to show how good Alonso is, despite the disadvantages he had. To note: Schumi kept catching up with him in the slow corners. That means the lack of mass dampers does have a drastic effect on the car, as Giancarlo's no-show in the race clearly shows.

I may also add that Ferraris are proven to have better brakes thatn the rest of the field... IMHO even though I'm a Mclaren fan...

[mazdamazda]

yup... the Ferraris does have better brakes... you can see how Schumi catches up with Alonso after braking in from the long straights.

though the Renaults are quicker off the slower turns.

[allen_the_great]

as Giancarlo's no-show in the race clearly shows.

maganda naman tinakbo ni Giancarlo sa race ah. coming from dead last to finish

6th.. that's good enough for me given the circumstances of the race.

[allen_the_great]

the only strategy i can think of that could have worked for him was for ferrari to keep massa on the track while schumi dived into the pits first. pero sobrang sacrificial lamb role ni massa dun sa setup na yun.

pag ginawa ng Ferrari yan, sobrang bobo nila. Yes, schumi would have won the race, but Massa then would have been forced to file at the back of the grid during the safety car period, thus lesser points for Ferrari overall.

[mazdamazda]

pag ginawa ng Ferrari yan, sobrang bobo nila. Yes, schumi would have won the race, but Massa then would have been forced to file at the back of the grid during the safety car period, thus lesser points for Ferrari overall.

Not really though... with the way that the Ferraris are behaving it could have still have salvaged a top 5 finish with that.

But with that... Massa would have been the ultimate sacrificial lamb.

[allen_the_great]

I wonder how that affects both driver's cornering speed. Did MS simply did that out of habit or was he conserving his engines??

Depende cguro sa characteristics ng car yan for every track.. turn 8 (triple apex left hander) seemed to suit Renault's car more (thus Alonso was flooring the throttle in this section of the track) while Ferrari was not as strong on turn 8. And you could see sa Apex speed on turn 8 na both Renaults were the fastest cars through that section. Though mas malakas Ferrari under braking that's why MS brakes much later than FA during the slow speed corners.

[allen_the_great]

Not really though... with the way that the Ferraris are behaving it could have still have salvaged a top 5 finish with that.

But with that... Massa would have been the ultimate sacrificial lamb.

it's really pure speculation ngayon, what could have beens.. but i dont think Massa would have passed Fisichella on the track or in the pits (if Ferrari opted to sacrifice Massa)

as far as i can remember, never ko pa nakita nag-come-from-behind si Massa to score plenty of points. he's still like JPM- very wild during overtaking maneuvers. he could have spun or met an accident while overtaking those backmarkers. again, purely speculation.

and to drive home my point, given Massa finished in 5th place. that still would have meant 2 lesser points for Ferrari overall as compared to the 16 points they scored yesterday.

[squala]

Yeah, they would have pitted MS first and FM 1 lap after. But for sure, Ferrari will be infamous if they did that. I'm certain Todt and/or Brawn wanted the race to favor Schumi, as he can still salavage the WDC from Alonso with 4 races remaining.

Ferrari admits that Massa is second fiddle, but if he's quicker, Michael should let him pass.

[allen_the_great]

Brawn also brought the idea of letting Massa wait in the pit lane while letting

Michael through to pit first. Hahahaha good for him hanggang sa isip lang nya

yun at hindi nila ginawa.

[bbt]

i don't think they would've sacrificed massa. from the qualifying session palang kasi schumi admitted already that felipe was definitely faster on this track, and that even if he didn't make any mistakes he probably wouldn't have been able to catch felipe anyway.

an interesting topic is the new aerodynamic/cooling rim "covers" that ferrari were supposed to introduce on this race. ginamit ba talaga nila? i was trying to catch a glimpse of the wheels throughout the race but the cars were just moving too fast, plus there were very few angles that gave a good view of the wheels. i wonder how much of a difference this innovation made in the race. as mentioned, schumi was able to brake much later than alonso. perhaps these covers helped?

[BoyFerrari]

bobo talaga... late deployment ng SC

I also thought the Safety Car deployment was too slow. There could have been a major accident with the Torro Rosso sitting there sideways on the track for like a minute or two. There was also no yellow flag raised when TV showed the procession of cars were wiggling trying to avoid debris on the race track.

[BoyFerrari]

is it me or parang di magaling pumili ng scenes yung race director last night. parang di sya agad nagfofocus sa key car battles ng race. may topak pa yung timing screen di tuloy makita agad kung gaano na kalaki lead ni FM kay FA at kay MS.

Ano ba nangyari talaga. The last time i saw it, 7 seconds ang lamang ni Alonso kay Schumi. Tapos umebs lang ako sandali, pagbalik ko 0.5 seconds na lang ang lamang???? Anak ng.... what did i miss?

[BoyFerrari]

Yeah, they would have pitted MS first and FM 1 lap after. But for sure, Ferrari will be infamous if they did that. I'm certain Todt and/or Brawn wanted the race to favor Schumi, as he can still salavage the WDC from Alonso with 4 races remaining.

I think all the race fans already understand that the game plan is for Massa to let Schumi ahead. So i don't think Ferrari will be unpopular sending Schumi to the pits while Massa stays ontrack. Fans expected that. It's the game plan. Right now, Ferrari favoring Schumi to win is the most logical thing there is to a team. After all, F1 is still a team sport. There is no sense for a shoot-out between teammates at this stage of the season. The most interesting and exciting element to see is how Massa can block Alonso, unlike Fisichella who is absolutely nowhere in this triad contest.