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    was it Yolanda's fault? was it pinoy abnoy's fault? was it mar roxas' fault? was it nognog's fault? was it dinky's fault? was it romualdez's fault? was it kring-kring's fault? was it korena's fault? was it cooper's fault? was it local government official's fault? was it the political system's fault? was it Catholic's God's fault? was it INK's fanatic's fault? was it pacquiao's fault? was it napolis fault? or is it the political spinners' fault?

    let's me start from this: Timeline: Storm surges in the Philippines

    click the link above if you want to see the timeline for the storm surges that happened in the past.

    Timeline: Storm surges in the Philippines

    ABS-CBNnews.com
    Posted at 11/23/2013 2:07 AM | Updated as of 11/23/2013 2:09 AM

    MANILA - The storm surge that devastated Tacloban City and many parts of the Visayas on November 8 was not a unique phenomenon.

    Storm surges created by typhoons have struck the county many times in the past.

    One storm surge on October 12, 1897 hammered Leyte and Tacloban City, killing as many as 7,000 people, according to historical records.

    The Barrier Miner, an Australian newspaper, gives an account of the 1897 storm surge that is eeriely similar to the November 8, 2013 event that has killed more than 5,000 people and left more than 1,600 missing.

    "The hurricane reached Leyte on October 12 (1897), and striking Tacloban... reduced it to ruins," the newspaper said.

    "The sea swept inland for a mile, destroying property...many natives lost their lives," it added. "Thousands of natives are roaming about the devastated province seeking food and medical attendance."

    The Department of Science and Technology's Project NOAH has published a timeline of storm surges that have hit the Philippines in recorded history.
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    are filipinos safety concious?

    from: PH needs culture of safety: scientist

    click the link above if you want to watch the video.

    MANILA - The Philippines needs to establish a culture of safety and disaster preparedness especially with the number of typhoons hitting the country every year, the executive director of Project NOAH said Friday.

    Dr. Mahar Lagmay, a geologist and professor at UP Diliman, said preparing for a disaster takes more than just a couple of days.

    "A culture of safety does not just involve the government but the community and every family. The Philippines experiences the most number of hazards every year including earthquakes and powerful typhoons. This is a culture that evolves, in months and even years," he told radio dzMM.

    Lagmay urged Filipinos to adopt a bottom-up approach and read up on possible disasters including earthquakes and typhoons so that they are prepared when the government gives a warning.

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    Tacloban mayor ang tunay na TNGAA. He never understood what was coming.

    Hanging in the beach house while the storm struck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Tacloban mayor ang tunay na TNGAA. He never understood what was coming.

    Hanging in the beach house while the storm struck.
    i should have said that first...but someone beat me

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    Yolanda is history...everyone knew more will be coming...

    from: ‘Leyte was warned two years ago’

    ‘Leyte was warned two years ago’

    By Helen Flores (The Philippine Star) | Updated November 22, 2013 - 1:00am

    MANILA, Philippines - Residents of coastal communities in Leyte were warned as early as two years ago of severe flooding from storm surges reaching as high as 12 meters (39.37 feet).

    The Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA) said local executives of Leyte were provided with inundation maps in 2011 under the READY project funded by the Australian Agency for International Development (AusAID) through the United Nations Development Program.

    The inundation map was designed in a worst-case scenario showing the coastal barangays of Leyte vulnerable to a high level of storm surges ranging from three to six meters, PAGASA added.

    The three-year READY project (also known as Hazard Mapping and Assessment for Effective Community-Based Disaster Risk Management), was a joint collaboration of PAGASA, the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs), National Mapping and Resource Information Authority (NAMRIA), and the Mines and Geosciences Bureau (MGB).

    The storm surge hazard mapping of Leyte showed most parts of Leyte, including Tacloban City, suffering inundation from four meters to 12 meters in a worst-case scenario.

    Conducting the mapping were Wilfredo Tuazon, Nestor Nimes and Julie Nimes of the PAGASA’s Astronomical, Geophysical and Space Sciences branch.

    The study recommended the construction of rigid seawalls and breakers with piled foundation for protection against storm surges.

    “It is highly recommended to let the local governments use this (storm surge hazard map) as reference for their disaster mitigation and preparedness plans and land use planning,” the study said.

    It also suggested the planting and preservation of mangroves along the shoreline as these help in dissipating big waves and storm surges.

    Storm surges of up to seven meters devastated Tacloban City at the height of Typhoon Yolanda last Nov. 8.

    Yolanda packed maximum sustained winds of 235 kilometers per hour as it made landfall in Guiuan, Eastern Samar, generating storm surges as high as seven meters, the average height of a two-story building.

    Yolanda left more than 4,000 (recent report says more than 5,600) people dead, mostly from the Samar and Leyte provinces, and over a thousand missing.

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    warnings were given not only 2 days before landfall...

    from: Tacloban City gov't warned of flood hazard in January

    Tacloban City gov't warned of flood hazard in January

    by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNNews.com
    Posted at 11/20/2013 10:58 PM | Updated as of 11/20/2013 10:58 PM

    Palace released storm surge infographic 2 days before 'Yolanda'

    MANILA - A geohazard map of Tacloban City was given to the local government by the Department of Environment and Natural Resources' (DENR) Mines and Geosciences Bureau (MGB) months before typhoon Yolanda devastated the city, according to government records.

    All towns and cities in the Eastern Visayas got the geohazard maps to help them prepare communities for typhoons, floods and other disasters, according to MGB Region 8 chief Alilo Ensomo, Jr., in a January 19, 2013 briefing in Tacloban City.

    Ensomo urged local chief executives to use the geohazard maps that show potential environmental threats in their respective localities.

    The maps indicate where environmental dangers lie, which local officials can use to determine the communities that need to be moved during typhoons or where evacuation sites should be built.

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    When a disaster hits the country, it’s not always the national government that acts first.
    the article (link below) is quiet long...but it's a well-researched article and clearly says who should be doing what before and after the disaster..

    from: The role of LGUs, local councils during disasters
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    Quote Originally Posted by explorer View Post
    are filipinos safety concious?
    hellz no. just take look at the entire families riding on MCs with no helmets(as if it would do any good)

    i sense that people have this "bahala na" attitude when it comes to these things. Problem is, the price of "bahala na" may not be acceptable after all.
    Last edited by badkuk; December 1st, 2013 at 10:00 PM.

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    If you ask me, it's a disaster because of ill-informed constituents, ill-trained personnel and ill-equipped municipalities (we all know why), and ill-brained LGUs na walang alam kundi magpa-pogi pag eleksyon. You can see the night and day difference that preparation, spearheaded by a proactive LGU and experienced leader can do.

    Filipinos are likewise not safety conscious. Just ask the two guys riding in tandem on the motorbike in front of me this morning... carrying a box and heavy duffle bag, barely able to keep their balance (i guess that's why they left their helmets off na...dagdag bigat pa).

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    Three fallguys who were supposed to explain the position of the goverment and guide the foreign journalists during the initial response to the disaster. But ended up making PNoy a laughing stock.

    Have anyone seen them in Malacanang lately...? Si Herminio Coloma lang palagi nag press coonference.

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