Is WWIII inevitable?

[kisshmet]

if you believe Zelensky is only a puppet (which i do) then it is not up to Zelensky to decide (ceasefire)

kahit gusto ni Zelensky kung ayaw ng mga boss niya wala siya magagawa

binigyan na siya ng script -- keep asking for weapons, surrender no territory (coz if he surrenders territory it sends a bad signal)

he's an actor playing president of Ukraine

the real decisionmakers are in DC, London, Brussels

zelensky cant defy his masters in CIA..if he attempt to do so..he will end up like those dead ukrainian soldiers in an open battle field in eastern ukraine

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[kisshmet]

yes hindi titigilan ng US ang Russia

the US wants everyone to bow to them

US wants to get cheap russian oil

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[boybi]

Both sides (US/NATO & Putin) need face saving. In the end, si Ukraine ang kawawa talaga. Bakit kasi sila bumoto ng clown.

[kisshmet]

^zelensky is a comedian before elected as president

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[uls]

zelensky cant defy his masters in CIA..if he attempt to do so..he will end up like those dead ukrainian soldiers in an open battle field in eastern ukraine

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we agree on something

[uls]

Both sides (US/NATO & Putin) need face saving. In the end, si Ukraine ang kawawa talaga. Bakit kasi sila bumoto ng clown.

yep kaya sabi ni Macron don't humiliate Putin

pero para sa US they not only want to humiliate putin, they want to remove putin

within the West meron magkaiba ang pananaw

[kisshmet]

^putin has the power to destroy europe

even if putin is removed, medvedev could be worse than putin coz russian jingoist know that america lust for their wealth (vast oil and gas reserves)

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[tsupermario]

i agree.
russia is just a land-grabber,
albeit a very powerful land-grabber.

when hitler did that, the others didn't do anything, for reasons only they know about.
and look where that led...

so what are the united nations doing about it?

there’s the suggestion of ceding territories to placate the land graber and buy peace. will it be enough to truly attain peace?

who will answer for the loss of civilian lives, the cost and ruin to civilian infrastructure?

by ceding land, will it not set a precedent and embolden similarly powerful and nuclear armed countries with autocratic leaders to act the same way?

[uls]

the West already made it clear that letting Russia have Ukrainian land sets a bad precedent

that's why they want zelensky to continue fighting

the goal is to drive russia out of all ukrainian territory including crimea

which means it will be a long, costly war

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so what are the united nations doing about it?

nothing

pansin mo there's nothing from the UN

absolutely nothing

parang the UN doesn't exist

[tsupermario]

Both sides (US/NATO & Putin) need face saving. In the end, si Ukraine ang kawawa talaga. Bakit kasi sila bumoto ng clown.

US officials had from late last year repeatedly warned, despite Russia's denials, that Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine as it massed troops near the two countries' border.

The New York Times noted in late January that the US was more vocal than many European countries in its warning of an invasion. Around that time, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also told Biden to tone down his warnings of an invasion because it was creating unwanted panic, CNN reported at the time.

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