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    #201
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Pagkatapos ko magbasa basa rito feeling ko parang ibang dimension ang kinalalagyan ko....

    Bakit yung mga nakakausap ko yung isa bangkero ok daw ngayon...pati contractor na kamaganak ko tumitira ng govt projects iba raw ngayon mas maayos, tapos last week forex boy naman, ganun din positibo daw ngayon....tapos may mga good news pag dating sa ekonomiya lumalabas sa balita...

    Either napapaligiran ako ng mga kampon ni pnoy o talagang reklamador lang mga tsikoteers...
    Bwahahaa...your in good dimension bro. This is the beauty of thread, democratic exchange of bright ideas & opinon. No one is correct or wrong, only opinions. Mahigpit lang na pinagbabawal ang PIKON.

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    #202
    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    *Ry_tower,

    Very effective lang ang PR ni Pnoy kaya akala mo nasa tuwid na daan na tayo. It's still the same.

    BIR collections are up because it is taking the fruits of having a consumption-based economy. They are making a killing with E-VAT.



    mawalang galang na po. pero hindi naman po lahat ng empleyado sa gobyerno ganyan. kahit sa private marami ding ganyan! haha

    kidding aside, yung mga front-liner ang madalas masungit at mayabang. hehehe.
    ok lang sir, hindi ko naman nilahat, sabi ko lang "karamihan"

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    #203
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ano bang pwedeng gawin ng government natin sa mga taong tambay at tamad magtrabaho? Kahit may employment opportunity na, mas pipiliian pang tumambay nalang sa kanto? Tapos government ang sisisihin kung wala na silang makain?
    Infrastractures ang isa sa pwede nilang gawin. Gawa sila ng mga tulay o bagong kalsada. Tapos, ayusin din nila ang health program, kung baga, offer more than what you offer today. Yan eh mga naiisip ko lang naman...

    Regarding sa jobs at doon sa mga tao, well, nasa tao na yan kung pipiliin nilang maging tamad at i-asa lahat sa gubyerno. Yan ang isa sa hirap sa atin mga kababayan. Ang buhay nila ay inaasa nalang sa mga pulitiko at di na sila gagawa ng paraan kung paano sila mamumuhay, at ito namang bagay na ito ang sinasamantala ng ilang pulitiko natin.

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    #204
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Ano bang pwedeng gawin ng government natin sa mga taong tambay at tamad magtrabaho? Kahit may employment opportunity na, mas pipiliian pang tumambay nalang sa kanto? Tapos government ang sisisihin kung wala na silang makain?
    That's one point i always see with the "impoverished" people i've dealt with at work and in other endeavors before; A lot of them just rely on the government and don't care to move their behinds to find meaningful employment. They think that electing a politico who is "for the masses" will make their lives better when in fact, all they do is to approach them for dole outs and help. One particular candidate/elected official i know is now well entrenched because they are known to be approachable and give help to the people when in fact, the people don't realize that what they are being given merely comes from the "peoples" pockets as well and is just a fraction of what is taken from them (politico gets P10, gives back P3... voter is grateful and forever votes for politico and his family).

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    #205
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    That's one point i always see with the "impoverished" people i've dealt with at work and in other endeavors before; A lot of them just rely on the government and don't care to move their behinds to find meaningful employment. They think that electing a politico who is "for the masses" will make their lives better when in fact, all they do is to approach them for dole outs and help. One particular candidate/elected official i know is now well entrenched because they are known to be approachable and give help to the people when in fact, the people don't realize that what they are being given merely comes from the "peoples" pockets as well and is just a fraction of what is taken from them (politico gets P10, gives back P3... voter is grateful and forever votes for politico and his family).
    +1

    That's why I was opposed to the idea of the Conditional Cash Transfer (CCT) of the DSWD from the beginning since it is nothing but a simple doleout. There is no motivation for the recipients to be productive for their families and for society. Lahat inaasa sa gobyerno. That's why it's so easy to inflame and instigate discontent with these people against government.

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    #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    +1

    That's why I was opposed to the idea of the Conditional Cash Transfer (CCT) of the DSWD from the beginning since it is nothing but a simple doleout. There is no motivation for the recipients to be productive for their families and for society. Lahat inaasa sa gobyerno. That's why it's so easy to inflame and instigate discontent with these people against government.
    SIr misinformed ka ata.

    AFAIK Inorder for you to receive CCT. May mga conditions that are needed to be met.

    Children should be attending school

    undergo regular check-up (for health reasons)

    Yan dalawa lang natandaan ko, basta may requirements. Hindi lang dahil mahirap ka mabibigyan ka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    SIr misinformed ka ata.

    AFAIK Inorder for you to receive CCT. May mga conditions that are needed to be met.

    Children should be attending school

    undergo regular check-up (for health reasons)

    Yan dalawa lang natandaan ko, basta may requirements. Hindi lang dahil mahirap ka mabibigyan ka.
    Yes, I know of those conditions. I'm sorry but it has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH PRODUCTIVITY. It's pure government doleout with no metrics on how it will be recovered later on. Sino rin ba ang gumagastos sa pag punta nila sa Health Centers at ang pag-enrol sa public school? Diba gobyerno rin? Para sakin mas mabuti pa na bigyan mo sila ng trabaho sa construction ng mga kalye o tulay para merong katumbas ang nakukuha nila. Marami nga akong nakilala sa mga nakatanggap ng CCT eh ang pinagkakagastusan eh alak at sigarilyo, aka bisyo kaysa pagkain at pangtustos sa mga anak.

    It would be a different matter if we're talking about dirt-poor people with who are not able to work due to some disability or sickness. Then the billions spent on them would actually make some sense.
    Last edited by Altis6453; May 20th, 2013 at 11:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Yes, I know of those conditions. I'm sorry but it has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH PRODUCTIVITY. It's pure government doleout with no metrics on how it will be recovered later on. Sino rin ba ang gumagastos sa pag punta nila sa Health Centers at ang pag-enrol sa public school? Diba gobyerno rin? Para sakin mas mabuti pa na bigyan mo sila ng trabaho sa construction ng mga kalye o tulay para merong katumbas ang nakukuha nila. Marami nga akong nakilala sa mga nakatanggap ng CCT eh ang pinagkakagastusan eh alak at sigarilyo, aka bisyo kaysa pagkain at pangtustos sa mga anak.

    It would be a different matter if we're talking about dirt-poor people with who are not able to work due to some disability or sickness. Then the billions spent on them would actually make some sense.
    Okay sir, i just thought hindi mo alam yung conditions para makakuha ng CCT.

    On the other hand, madali lang kasi sabihin na "Bakit hindi sila bigyan ng trabaho?"

    Sa taas ng unemployment rate dito sa pinas, problema talaga yan.

    Yun ngang nakapag aral hirap makahanap ng decent na trabaho what more pa yung walang pinag aralan?

    In preparation yan para naman kahit papano maging competitive mga mahihirap natin kababayan.

    Regarding dun sa pinangbibisyo yun pera? its their choice. sila din mag suffer dun in the long run.

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    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

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    #210
    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
    Very simple words that can go a long way indeed... chick boy pa yung Presidenteng nagsabi ng quote na yan. :D

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    ^

    hahaha ...

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    sir LSB, di ba si jules ledesma ang cong. sa inyo (negros)?
    nanalo ba ulit siya?

    siya ata tiopnotcher sa absences sa congress.........

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    Jules is 1st district in Negros. Albee Benitez is our congressman for the 3rd district. Yeah, they are both leading sa counting ngayon by wide margins. I think they will eventually win.

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    #214
    No....

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    Give chance to others....

    Ang problema ke pnoy yung mga alipores nya corrupt at medyo epal...

    Pnoy vs binay.... Ke binay na ko



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    Pnoy vs binay = hindi nalang ako boboto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Arz View Post
    Give chance to others....

    Ang problema ke pnoy yung mga alipores nya corrupt at medyo epal...

    Pnoy vs binay.... Ke binay na ko

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    Bro not to flame or anything, but I genuinely want to understand why you would vote for Binay?

    You okay with the fact that he himself is corrupt, and will most likely proliferate padrino system and therefore surround himself with an equally corrupt cabinet?



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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Bro not to flame or anything, but I genuinely want to understand why you would vote for Binay?

    You okay with the fact that he himself is corrupt, and will most likely proliferate padrino system and therefore surround himself with an equally corrupt cabinet?



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    Eh Kahit sino Naman lagay natin dyn pare pareho Lang mga yan sir wala tayo tulAk kabigin ;-)


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    How about Miriam?


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    #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Arz View Post
    Eh Kahit sino Naman lagay natin dyn pare pareho Lang mga yan sir wala tayo tulAk kabigin ;-)


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    So assuming they will both do a crap job (according to you), you will prefer to vote the corrupt one over the clean one?

    Hope to understand why bro. Parang di ko maintindihan kasi why you'd vote someone else just for the sake of variety when that person is obviously more corrupt and self-serving.

    I don't try to impose my candidates on anyone else, but all I wish for is that everyone else arrived at their choices through critical thinking. Few people realize the power of suffrage
    (which is why people sell their votes so easily), but I hope that changes.



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