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    #41
    hindi lang yan maka-hollywood na din ang Kazhkastan

    kidding aside, I believe the Bushes have some oil pipeline interests in those lower parts of Russia yun lahat ng may "stan" na countries

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    Hindi naman siguro gagawin ng US yan "sa ngayon" malamang Britain pa ang unang mag-init na bombahin ang Iran.

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    Let us think of all the positives that will result if the U.S. attacks Iran -

    (1) Two raving idiots (and all their extremist supporters) will be ranged against each other. Maybe one of them will be sufficiently damaged politically so that these extremists won't go war-mongering again for a loooong time.

    (2) Iran will be weakened if not totally bludgeoned. It won't be in a position to create mischief in the region.

    (3) The U.S. will also be weakened -- its citizens will think twice the next time its leader wants to invade another country because of personal vendetta.


    Unfortunately, the loss of innocent lives on both sides will be the price.

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    I really doubt this report...

    Though the UK might be the ones who'll be really pissed off should something happen to their 15 sailors. The GPS intrumentation showed that the kidnapping happened in Iraqi waters.

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    #45
    that wont happen.

    Bush doesnt have the support for that even within his own party.

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    #46
    pag nanuod kayo ng Jericho, you'll know why Iran and Nokor should be neutralized. The US and NATO are doing us all a big favor.

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    here's an idea that will save the US some money should they decide to go to war with Iran. since the majority of the insurgents in Iraq are from Iran and/or trained in Iran, they should just go ahead and attack Iran then those insurgents in Iraq would flock back to Iran to defend their country. then we nuke them. two birds with one stone..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue View Post
    pag nanuod kayo ng Jericho, you'll know why Iran and Nokor should be neutralized. The US and NATO are doing us all a big favor.
    please remove the word NATO from the sentence...most of the member countries don't even want to get involved with the war/rebuilding process. the USA is pretty much shouldering the bulk of the expenses (my guess is UK comes in second). it would be a disgrace to give credit to NATO especially since France is one of its members (a bunch of pu$$ies) who always tuck its tail between its legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    that wont happen.

    Bush doesnt have the support for that even within his own party.
    You think so? Who do you think was behind the Gulf War? Bush Sr. Useless party nya if he has several friends behind him hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapitan View Post
    You think so? Who do you think was behind the Gulf War? Bush Sr. Useless party nya if he has several friends behind him hehehe.
    Bush Sr had the backing of Congress and the UN. He also had the backing of several key Arab countries including Syria and Egypt so long as Israel remained neutral. And yes, it was a weird feeling seeing the Syrian flag alongside the other Coalition members. That's why Saddam tried to weaken that coalition by bombarding Israel with Scud missiles in the hope Israel would retaliate and cause the Arabs to withdraw their support for the Gulf War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    please remove the word NATO from the sentence...most of the member countries don't even want to get involved with the war/rebuilding process. the USA is pretty much shouldering the bulk of the expenses (my guess is UK comes in second). it would be a disgrace to give credit to NATO especially since France is one of its members (a bunch of pu$$ies) who always tuck its tail between its legs.
    I wouldn't insult the French just yet. Their ground troops and armor did play an important part guarding the flanks of the main Coalition thrust during the Gulf War. Plus, I've worked with their aircrew (Mirage 2000's) before. My impression is they're as professional as any aircrew from the US and Brits.

    It's politics that gives the French military a bad rap. But working alongside with them, I considered it an honor. It's not everyday I got to work with the French.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 AM.

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    I doubt if the US would even venture into attacking Iran. The costs in terms of the economic impact and the effect of the strik on its stretched military would weigh heavily. Panay rhetoric lang naman sila. They emphasize on regime change in Iran. But who knows what would happen next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    I wouldn't insult the French just yet. Their ground troops and armor did play an important part guarding the flanks of the main Coalition thrust during the Gulf War. Plus, I've worked with their aircrew (Mirage 2000's) before. My impression is they're as professional as any aircrew from the US and Brits.

    It's politics that gives the French military a bad rap. But working alongside with them, I considered it an honor. It's not everyday I got to work with the French.
    i was just being sarcastic since France is always stereotyped as a coward country....which it is in most cases
    Last edited by n2knee; April 3rd, 2007 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    The USAF is at full capacity. I read the AF Times recently which had an article saying the AF is overmanned by 40k troops. Not sure about the other services, though.
    the army and marines failed to meet their quotas (i'm talking about new recruits not re-enlisted troops), because, in my opinion, the possibility of being sent for at least one tour of duty, which may last from 6 - 12 months in Iraq/Afghanistan and the high rate of soldiers KIA are one of the many reasons why recruitment is down. additionally, the low unemployment rate here in the USA is also a factor in the decrease of recruitment rates in the Army and Marines. it is very interesting to know that the US Air Force is overmanned as you mentioned. i would be interested to find out the number of USAF casualties in the two wars since the invasion began. maybe there is a correlation between the recruitment rates in the three military branches and the number of casualties suffered in each branch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creepy View Post
    (3) The U.S. will also be weakened -- its citizens will think twice the next time its leader wants to invade another country because of personal vendetta.
    Why would weakening the US be a positive thing? A lot of people here are already against this third war against Iran. It's not the people to blame, but the trigger-happy George Dubya Bush.

    I guess C&C Generals should have a third expansion pack aside from Zero Hour and the original version!

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    i was just being sarcastic since France is always stereotyped as a coward country....which it is in most cases
    I kinda knew that's where you were going. I mean, they did lose some key battles in their history. But, you got to give credit to their enemies who humiliated them. None of them were pushovers.

    Even the US have its share of defeats. The Brits particularly had a history of glorious last stands especially during the Victorian Era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    i would be interested to find out the number of USAF casualties in the two wars since the invasion began. maybe there is a correlation between the recruitment rates in the three military branches and the number of casualties suffered in each branch.
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    There definitely is a correlation between recruitment rates and casualty rates. The very nature of who goes to combat is different among the services. The ground pounders (marines and army) naturally have the bulk of casualties. Most air force and navy casualties are aviators. But, gleaning articles from Stars & Stripes and AF times, an increasing number of air force personnel are being given tasks normally allocated to the ground pounders, including combat. I would imagine it's the same with the navy.

    It is tough to be in the service nowadays citing the factors you mentioned earlier. I've done my time to king and country before the current conflicts. If I have to do it again......... I don't know. At my age, they're going to have to dangle a nice fat carrot before I bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    I wouldn't insult the French just yet. Their ground troops and armor did play an important part guarding the flanks of the main Coalition thrust during the Gulf War. Plus, I've worked with their aircrew (Mirage 2000's) before. My impression is they're as professional as any aircrew from the US and Brits.

    It's politics that gives the French military a bad rap. But working alongside with them, I considered it an honor. It's not everyday I got to work with the French.
    So Jun you are a Gulf war veteran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    So Jun you are a Gulf war veteran
    Yeah. I wouldn't say I was willing and gungho about it, though. If I had my choice, I wouldn't have gone. But, I just do as I'm told. They told me to go, I went. No choice in the matter. Once I'm there, I did my job. It didn't seem that long, though. I've barely shaken off the jet lag and then it was all over. It's all the BS that came for years afterward that really soured me on how the whole thing was handled.

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    akala ko vietnam war vet si boss jun




    j/k

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