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    October 8th, 2012 11:12 AM #21
    nag handshake o nagbeso-beso kaya si Imelda at Noynoy?

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    October 8th, 2012 01:43 PM #22
    i watched portions of the JPE memoirs in ANC

    the way i got it, Martial law was being contemplated as early as 1969 by FM, who consulted JPE and other more brilliant lawyers than JPE (kasi daw mga suma cum laude sa UP)

    JPE said he was out of government and to form a law firm with Sen. Angara (now the ACCRA law) but was called back by FM. he also said, it was the NISA (national intel and security agency) who abused Martial law. though he headed the defense ministry that time, he had no control of NISA (it was Gen. Ver daw)

    JPE said after the assassination of Ninoy, FM warned him that he was the next as target. since he heads the defense ministry and had Sen. Honasan as his aide, they trained and got superior firepower, which eventually led in the formation of the RAM (reform the armed forces movement)

    daming revelations ni JPE
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    October 10th, 2012 10:02 AM #23
    napanood ko din yan abs...matindi pala kabataan ni manong johnny kasali pala sya sa mga guerilla...kinulong ata sya ng 2month diko makalimutan yun sinabi kahit katiting na pagkakataon na maari sya makatakas papasukin nya and he said in ilocano "dios ko tulungan nak"...ganyan din sana iniisip nya nun martial law...21 yrs old ata sya nakatapos ng highschool dahil dun...nasaksak pa sya nun binata sya dahil sa babae sa aparri, cagayan...dami nya nga revelation nun time of martial law nabwisit daw si marcos sa secretary of defense nya dahil nagpunta sa malacanang na nakainom kaya sya ang ginawa ng defense secretary nya...
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    October 10th, 2012 11:26 AM #24
    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    napanood ko din yan abs...matindi pala kabataan ni manong johnny kasali pala sya sa mga guerilla...kinulong ata sya ng 2month diko makalimutan yun sinabi kahit katiting na pagkakataon na maari sya makatakas papasukin nya and he said in ilocano "dios ko tulungan nak"...ganyan din sana iniisip nya nun martial law...21 yrs old ata sya nakatapos ng highschool dahil dun...nasaksak pa sya nun binata sya dahil sa babae sa aparri, cagayan...dami nya nga revelation nun time of martial law nabwisit daw si marcos sa secretary of defense nya dahil nagpunta sa malacanang na nakainom kaya sya ang ginawa ng defense secretary nya...
    Naniwala ka naman dun sa kwentong barbero? So naniniwala ka ring war-hero si Marcos at medal recipient?
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    October 10th, 2012 11:28 AM #25
    Tsaka isang ogag ba si Marcos na sabihin kay JPE na siya ang next target for assassination after Ninoy? Dyan palang eh dialogue na ni Mang Boy ng Barberya sa Sampaloc.
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    October 10th, 2012 12:14 PM #26
    nasasulat din kaya sa book ni JPE yung pag mutiny nila ni Tolentino sa Manila hotel? akala nila susuportahan sila ng mga tao kasi feeling bilib na bilib si JPE sa sarili after people power 1.
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    October 10th, 2012 12:32 PM #27
    Di ba sa isang TV movie regarding 1986 People Power, JPE sued the production outfit because he didn't like how he was portrayed in the film. The producer had to finish the shoot in Sri Lanka. The TV movie portrays JPE as a power grabber who was exposed by one of the coup plotters to Marcos. The night he was supposed to be arrested with Gringo, humingi ng saklolo kay Cardinal Sin and Ramos. Si Cory was only a prop and wasn't in JPE's plan to become President. PNoy seemed to have forgiven JPE association with Gringo, whose 1989 coup against Cory nearly killed PNoy...
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    October 10th, 2012 01:59 PM #28
    ang masasabi ko lang wala sa kinalalagyan nya ngayon si manong johnny kung di xa kinuha ng tatay nya noon...
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    October 10th, 2012 02:15 PM #29
    tignan natin kung may mag-refute sa mga memoirs ni JPE

    pero the TV version made it appeared unbiased kasi. ANZ also interviewed FVR, Rene Saguisag, Gringo, Sen Angara

    ako, im just giving him the benefit of the doubt
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    October 10th, 2012 02:19 PM #30
    Quote Originally Posted by dfopiso View Post
    tignan natin kung may mag-refute sa mga memoirs ni JPE

    pero the TV version made it appeared unbiased kasi. ANZ also interviewed FVR, Rene Saguisag, Gringo, Sen Angara

    ako, im just giving him the benefit of the doubt
    eto na ang isa:


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    October 10th, 2012 02:35 PM #31
    ^ ok yan si de Quiros. sana si Randy David din

    maganda ito para mabalanse kwento ni JPE ... kung may kwenta ... baka puro kwento
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    October 10th, 2012 04:53 PM #32
    Quote Originally Posted by timrev View Post
    ang masasabi ko lang wala sa kinalalagyan nya ngayon si manong johnny kung di xa kinuha ng tatay nya noon...
    Mali ang nasasabi mo sir. Wala sa kinalalagyan niya ngayon si Manong Johnny kung hindi dahil kay Marcos. Ang laki kaya ng kinita niyan noong Martial Law.
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    October 10th, 2012 05:32 PM #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Boy Bastos View Post
    Mali ang nasasabi mo sir. Wala sa kinalalagyan niya ngayon si Manong Johnny kung hindi dahil kay Marcos. Ang laki kaya ng kinita niyan noong Martial Law.
    ganun ba...dipa kasi ako pinanganak ng panahon ng martial law... siguro nga ganun kasi instigator nga sya ng martial law...
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    October 10th, 2012 05:49 PM #34
    ^ tama ka sir pangalawa ata sa pinaka kinatatakutan yan si JPE during Marcos time
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    October 10th, 2012 06:13 PM #35
    pangatlo si jpe. #2 si marcos, #1 si imelda
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    October 10th, 2012 06:20 PM #36
    Quote Originally Posted by ZENMasterTYL View Post
    pangatlo si jpe. #2 si marcos, #1 si imelda
    oo nga tama ka sir
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    October 11th, 2012 02:56 AM #37
    Si Gen. Fabian Ver?

    Marcos: Fabian, jump out the window!
    Ver: Yes, sir! What floor?
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    October 11th, 2012 11:07 AM #38
    Sa tingin nyo ba wala silang kinalaman o wala silang alam (si jpe & tabako) sa pagpatay kay ninoy?

    Tuturo nila si fabian ver. Patay na.
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    October 11th, 2012 09:57 PM #39
    sabi ni JPE sa memoirs nya, original plan escort Ninoy diretso sa Times St

    tapos nabago plano

    tapos sinabihan ni FM si JPE, sya na daw isusunod
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    October 15th, 2012 12:09 AM #40
    lolo JPE must have an amnesia already...he admitted it 26 years ago when he staged a coup against Marcos...he admitted it during their press conference in Camp Crame that his ambush was faked...it was heard by millions of people in Radio Veritas and was replayed thousands of times during and after People Power I...he admitted it again many times over in many TV talk shows after People Power I...Marcos' butchers were ready to slaughter JPE and FVR when they revolted against him...his admission of the fake ambush was one of the reasons why Cardial Sin asked millions of people to support him and protect him and FVR in Camp Crame that eventually lead to People Power I and kicked Marcos out of Malacanang...he wants to re-write history and make himself a saint.

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