On the military actions against the MILF and Ramadan

[ghosthunter]

With Ramadan coming closer, do you think the government agree to calling a temporary cease fire in their war against the MILF (so the MILF can observe the Ramadam)?

[uls]

ceasefire, peace talks, war, ceasefire, peace talks, war, ceasefire, peace talks, war...

[CVT]

Ramadan, I heard, started today and will be on until the 30th. Maselan iyang desisyon na iyan kung ipagpapatuloy ang giyera dahil nga sa religious observance ng Ramadan.

Parang iyong Yum Kippur War between Egypt and Israel...

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[Jun aka Pekto]

With Ramadan coming closer, do you think the government agree to calling a temporary cease fire in their war against the MILF (so the MILF can observe the Ramadam)?

Not sure what the exact question is.

A ceasefire doesn't make sense from a tactical standpoint. But, it does make sense from a strategic standpoint.

[Altis6453]

Its a Big NO in my opinion. The MILF and their sympathizers have only used ceasefires to regroup and re-arm. There should be no let-up in the AFP's efforts to get Commander Kato and Commander Bravo.

Maawa naman tayo sa mga sundalo natin. If they stop now while having the tactical advantage, we can only expect more casualties as they try to bring these people to justice.

[shadow]

Its a Big NO in my opinion. The MILF and their sympathizers have only used ceasefires to regroup and re-arm. There should be no let-up in the AFP's efforts to get Commander Kato and Commander Bravo.

Maawa naman tayo sa mga sundalo natin. If they stop now while having the tactical advantage, we can only expect more casualties as they try to bring these people to justice.

I agree, that will be the biggest stupidity that the military will do, why give the terrorist bastards respect or give respect to their religion for that matter when they don't respect other religions as well especially Christianity..

Ramadan is actually an advantage for the military the bastards can't eat or drink for the whole day and if the military is in pursuit they can easily catch up with the pigs.

[ghosthunter]

Personally, the government should continue with their military push against the MILF and wipe them out to the last person. The same goes for the Abu Sayaf as well.

[Monseratto]

Hopefully GMA will listen to a responsible military adviser and not listen to the "advise" given out through MEDIA...

[safeorigin]

ramadan or no ramadan, they deserve to be killed

[yebo]

ubusin na mga yan! no let up dapat, all out war na yan.

bakit yung pinasabog na bombs sa metro nuon, december yun ha. at yung valentines day bombs. ganti-ganti lang yan.

[Gen. Miting]

if we treat the renegade group as merely bandits with guns then by all means. but the problem will surface in the middle of this ramadan season. I believe the clamor from local and international muslim communities will put our govt. in a bad light.

the thing is we wouldn't want to be attacked during X'mas Vacation or during observance of Holy Week would we?

pero talaga very strategic ang pagkakaplano ng attack ng MILF sa Mindanao just a month before the Ramadan. pero yun nga lang bakit kasi before the Ramadan nilabas ang decision ng Supreme Court

[XTO]

puro kasi sila ka-artehan eh. yung all out war ni erap dati ang sagot diyan. sana isang hirap na lang ang dinanas ng mga sibilyan dahil malapit na matapos ang mga MILF noon. ano ginawa nila inalis si erap, inalis ni gloria ang all out war at nakipag bati pa.

inalis ang death penalty kaya heto tayo ulit ngayon - yan ang sobrang epekto ng sulsol ng simbahan...again bakit ang ibang bansa dito na lang sa south east asia? mga hindi katoliko pero hindi ganito kasama ang gobyerno! magsitigil nga sila!

IMO lang po

[Altis6453]

It doesn't matter if its ramadan, christmas or easter. Just get them all and make sure they never threaten any town or community in mindanao again.

[ghosthunter]

if we treat the renegade group as merely bandits with guns then by all means. but the problem will surface in the middle of this ramadan season. I believe the clamor from local and international muslim communities will put our govt. in a bad light.

the thing is we wouldn't want to be attacked during X'mas Vacation or during observance of Holy Week would we?

pero talaga very strategic ang pagkakaplano ng attack ng MILF sa Mindanao just a month before the Ramadan. pero yun nga lang bakit kasi before the Ramadan nilabas ang decision ng Supreme Court

The problem is we have been treating these kind of groups as if they have a real political agenda. Unfortunately, they are just over-hyped bandits.

As for retribution, as if Hilter suspended his troops' attacks during World War 2 just because they were celebrating Christmas. It is high time to take the war against these bandits all the way.

[Jun aka Pekto]

If it's a general massacre of the MILF people here are asking for, then that's what will give an excuse for an international "peacekeeping" force to butt in.

Once that happens, the Philippines would lose control of its destiny. Advocating a massacre would be playing right into the MILF's hands.

[CoDer]

Sakay naman tong media at government sa ramadan. Look at what happened in davao now, bombing on the first day of ramadan.

I grow up in south cotabato and only left there when I was 30, alam na alam ko ang likaw ng mga bituka ng mga yan. It was never about political agenda with them... It's between Islam and other religion.

[roninblade]

bad strategic and tactical decision if the government agrees to a cease fire. how many years na natin kinakausap ang mga yan, wala naman nangyayari sa peace talks eh. tama yung decision ni erap dati, one time all out push na to stop MILF.

[Gen. Miting]

If it's a general massacre of the MILF people here are asking for, then that's what will give an excuse for an international "peacekeeping" force to butt in.

Once that happens, the Philippines would lose control of its destiny. Advocating a massacre would be playing right into the MILF's hands.

if ERap had it it his way during his MILF warring days, this would have happened. he had ordered the military to completely go on aerial strafe run on Camp Abubakar with ground support troops doing the mop up "finishing" operations.

during that time I thought Camp Abubakar was sort of a terrorist training camp like the one portrayed in the movie Patriot Games.

little did I know, that Camp Abubakar was a community with muslim women and children, schools, mosques, wet markets, stores, makeshift hospitals and health centers. in other words, it's a full-scale TOWN with even PUVs like tricycles and mini-jeepneys and TERMINALS

it really reveals what sort of character our former President is.

by the way, the strafe run mission was not cancelled in 1998-2000. when the Phil. Military got there, the place was a ghost town. the MILF with their families and the sick left hastily like refugees of war, only clutching what they can carry as of the moment.

as a military strategist or a member of the opposite side, this looked and sounded so good. victory too bad nga lang, there was less action.

but as humans, only one thing will best describe if ever ERap and his military strafed Camp Abubakar on time -> genocide.

[Altis6453]

Doubt pretty much if the conflict with the MILF will warrant the intervention of an international peacekeeping force. The conflict areas in Mindanao is pretty small and the casualties are not in the thousands as what you may expect from genocide.

[Galactus]

This is one instance where government should practice the art of doubletalk. They should publicly state that it will generally observe Ramadan, and will not mount offensive actions, but do quite the opposite. After the Ces Drilon incident, is there a reporter stupid enough to accompany our troops on the actual battlefront?

Talking about waging war publicly during such a holy month for Muslims may turn off a lot of Islamic states, which may move them to give overt/covert aid to the rebels