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    Quote Originally Posted by iOz View Post
    I'm not in favor of ceasefire. Definitely it was the 13 Malaysian elite kuno commandos that were dugged up. Hayaan natin maging Mindanao ang North Borneo.
    Not a forensic expert, but the corpses seem to be wearing black pants, the live ones wearing olive green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Not a forensic expert, but the corpses seem to be wearing black pants, the live ones wearing olive green.
    Kawawa naman ang Malaysian elite kuno commandos...no ceasefire!
    More Popcorn!

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    If it was the chinese who occupied Sabah. Do you think Malaysia will attack them? And do you think China will just watch their people die? #justfordiscusion no need to be emotional about it
    Last edited by xninjax; March 7th, 2013 at 06:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    If it was the chinese who occupied Sabah. Do you think Malaysia will attack them? And do you think China will just watch their people die? #justfordiscusion
    And do you think the birtish and americans will not think of it a a reason for more war games?

    Pang-dagdag nga sa discussion... hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    If it was the chinese who occupied Sabah. Do you think Malaysia will attack them? And do you think China will just watch their people die? #justfordiscusion no need to be emotional about it
    problem is hinde china eh..muslim filipino thugs..

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    Nag labas pa kasi ng statement UN eh, nakahanap tuloy ng palusot mga kirams...sumusunod daw sila sa UN for peaceful means kaya nag issue ng ceasefire.

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    kala ko ba patay kung patay. no retreat no surrender? bat may ceasefire?

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    eto ang gusto mangyari ng mga Kiram international attention from UN (and recently the conflict was aired in BBC news) and not to win the ground battle in Sabah. Siempre yung nagsulsol naman ang gusto political dilemma for PNoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrQ5 View Post
    eto ang gusto mangyari ng mga Kiram international attention from UN (and recently the conflict was aired in BBC news) and not to win the ground battle in Sabah. Siempre yung nagsulsol naman ang gusto political dilemma for PNoy.
    +100, may tama ka!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrQ5 View Post
    eto ang gusto mangyari ng mga Kiram international attention from UN (and recently the conflict was aired in BBC news) and not to win the ground battle in Sabah. Siempre yung nagsulsol naman ang gusto political dilemma for PNoy.
    Hanggang ganyan lang siguro UN, maglabas ng standard statement para naman masabi meron sila ginagawa...nakanap fully ng butas mga kirams...tsk tsk tsk...

    Kawawa naman oh, "sumunod" na sila sa UN bakit Malaysia hinde pa! Public sympathy...

    Damian pa namatay at nadamay ng mga civilians na pinoy doon dahil lang gusto nila pataasan rent ng Malaysia...

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    Kirams cannot demand anything...even a ceasefire. It's now beyond their control...

    Body count is ticking up...

    52 Filipinos, 8 Malaysia cops killed in Sabah clashes as of late Thursday - InterAksyon.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Nag labas pa kasi ng statement UN eh, nakahanap tuloy ng palusot mga kirams...sumusunod daw sila sa UN for peaceful means kaya nag issue ng ceasefire.

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    Ampch sa palusot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Nag labas pa kasi ng statement UN eh, nakahanap tuloy ng palusot mga kirams...sumusunod daw sila sa UN for peaceful means kaya nag issue ng ceasefire.

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    Our brothers needed that reprieve....Just in the nick of time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Our brothers needed that reprieve....Just in the nick of time....

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    too bad it was rejected by Malaysia. their PM even flew there to show how serious they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    too bad it was rejected by Malaysia. their PM even flew there to show how serious they are
    Just goes to show that the UN, sadly is still a Toothless Tiger, as always.....

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    Tutal hati ang opinion ng mga pinoy dito sa issue na to...Yung iba nakikisimpatiya kay kiram dahil sa Pilipinas nga naman talaga daw ang Sabah, dapat supportahan kapwa pinoy etc etc, samantala yung iba naiinis kasi epal et makasarili di dapat ganun ang ginawa etc etc.

    Bakit di nalang magtayo ng volunteer division ang Pilipinas, lahat ng pinoy na sumusupporta kay kiram magvolunteer at ipadala sa sabah as reinforcement, armasan na rin, tutal nag ROTC naman siguro kayo at marunong mag martsa martsa sa initan. Kung magtagumpay kayo paghatihatian niyo yung lupa at magtayo kayo ng sarili niyong bansa!

    Yung ayaw dito nalang sa tsikot at mag type type nalang.

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    Counter attack ng student council dapat Kiram swap for amalilio...they should now float it para makuha naman nila support ng mga victims na Moro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickers View Post
    What a sight it would be kung lahat ng pinondohan ng Malaysia eh pumunta ng Sabah at magbigay ng backup kay Kiram...

    However, ang laking kahihiyan lalo sa Pilipinas yun... armed militia better than the military and a gov't who doesn't give a f*ck to its people.
    Malaysian government spent millions to protect their interest to an oil rich state Sabah and yet their military is no much with their own moslem trainees that they are fighting now. The word is KARMA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Just to add to threx666's views...

    Let's think it through: if the PH government does lend support to the sultan, that's like declaring war on Malaysia -- country vs. country. Damay lahat ng PH -- you, me, your family. What if Malaysia invades Mindanao -- nay, Manila? What if everything really goes wrong, and we're forced to draft Pinoys into this war? Are you willing to go and fight? Are you willing to offer your sons, maybe even daughters, for the sultan's "cause" ?
    No but 20+ million Malaysians to 90+ million Filipinos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    If it was the chinese who occupied Sabah. Do you think Malaysia will attack them? And do you think China will just watch their people die? #justfordiscusion no need to be emotional about it
    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    Sir ,

    Kung Ikw po ba ang magdedecide in this situation , would you really come to the rescue for the kirams and sacrifice the whole 90 million Filipinos who are just trying to get by everyday?

    Typical na filipino tactic naman kasi masyado yung ginagawa ng mga kirams e, Pupunta ka dun to assert your claim through aa armed conflict , then you expect to ask for a ceasefire in the middle of the fight since you are already losing the battle? And expect for the sympathy of the world?

    In my opinion , a good head of state is not just deciding for the benefit for a few people , rather making a difficult decision for the whole nation .

    Just my 2 cents
    If its a legitimate claim, whether they drag the country to war, my point is at least they have the guts to fight for it.. Unlike the gov't who has done nothing to pursue what should be ours... The next thing you know, the whole country's taken over by another race... Phils is bullied because we are weak to defend ourselves and even weaker letting it happen.

    If I were in the President's position, Pinoy pa rin yang mga yan. An act should be done to protect them and avoid all-out war with Malaysia at the same time.. Kirams wants to talk and if Malaysia doesn't honor that, who is there to mediate? US? China? UN? Eh anu pa pakialam nila dun... Its just the same thing China is doing to us.. we want to be heard yet the other party has deaf ears.. so what do you do? Let it pass for how many more decades or even century?

    Quote Originally Posted by iOz View Post
    No but 20+ million Malaysians to 90+ million Filipinos...
    Quote Originally Posted by iOz View Post
    Malaysian government spent millions to protect their interest to an oil rich state Sabah and yet their military is no much with their own moslem trainees that they are fighting now. The word is KARMA...
    That's my point, armed militia can survive Malaysia's army attacks. eh dyan sila nagtraining eh.. probably the guns they now used were even donated by Malaysia..

    Then again, my views don't mean a thing to anybody else. I do not move to change your minds.. I just hope the war doesn't reach our shores and each one of us would say, it's already to late... kasi like oliver said.. hati tayo ng opinyon pero walang may gusto ng gyera.. pero pano kung nandyan na mismo sa labas ng bahay mo, nadamay na pamilya mo, tingin nyo ba may pipiliin pa mga yan.. none of us have lived the era of war that's maybe the reason why no one's willing to stand up for his country.

    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Tutal hati ang opinion ng mga pinoy dito sa issue na to...Yung iba nakikisimpatiya kay kiram dahil sa Pilipinas nga naman talaga daw ang Sabah, dapat supportahan kapwa pinoy etc etc, samantala yung iba naiinis kasi epal et makasarili di dapat ganun ang ginawa etc etc.

    Bakit di nalang magtayo ng volunteer division ang Pilipinas, lahat ng pinoy na sumusupporta kay kiram magvolunteer at ipadala sa sabah as reinforcement, armasan na rin, tutal nag ROTC naman siguro kayo at marunong mag martsa martsa sa initan. Kung magtagumpay kayo paghatihatian niyo yung lupa at magtayo kayo ng sarili niyong bansa!

    Yung ayaw dito nalang sa tsikot at mag type type nalang.

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