Pinas: Learning Center of Asia?

[uls]

OK ganito po yun...

Let's assume that our colleges and universities are world class (para wala na argument)

Tapos?

We would be producing a lot world class graduates schoolyear after schoolyear... thousands and thousands of them...

highly educated, highly intelligent...

BUT WHERE DO THEY GO?

Sa abroad.

SO SINO MAKIKINABANG SA PINAG ARALAN NILA?

Hindi ang Pinas.

The Koreans come here, learn english, go back to Korea and make Samsung and Hyundai two of the most recognizeable companies and brand names in the world.

see my point?

So our schools are good. But if the products of our schools do not benefit the homeland, what's the freakin point?!

Babalik at babalik parin ako sa lagi ko sinasabi...

Kelangan natin ng PUHUNAN.

Tingnan nyo ang nagagawa ng puhunan... tingnan nyo ang Dubai.

Who cares if they don't have enough domestic manpower and talent and skill and knowhow to turn a desert into brand new, shiny, glowing city...

THEY GOT CAPITAL. THEY GOT BILLIONS IN PETRODOLLARS AND THEY ARE SPENDING IT.

And that huge capital spending has attracted manpower and talent and skill and knowhow from all over the world.

Ask anyone in Dubai --- heck, everyone is there... even Donald Trump is there...

This is the only reality in this freakin world: MONEY TALKS. And people listen when money talks.

Everything else is pseudo-reality. Everything else is background noise.

[jpdm]

With good graduates we might be able to replace those freaks in the government and finally we can put the country in order.

Doing that we might be able to convince local and foreign businessmen that without those freakin corrupt politicians we can have their freakin money.

No matter what the doomsayers say, the Philippines is still a potential freakin market with 88 million people.

This is an opportunity therefore for freakin investors to make some freakin money...

[A121]

* uls,

yes, we really do need capital and somehow the government must make conducting business in pinas easy. also, if the conditions here make conducting academic research really hard, then our really good graduates will just find ways to go abroad. sayang naman kung mabubulok sila dito di ba?

* jpdm,

88 million is bad for a small country like ours..

[jpdm]

* jpdm,

88 million is bad for a small country like ours..

For Malthusian Economics yes..

But for investors and producers.....no.....

potential market.........

OT

I have a hunch one of the guessonomics statistics ito....

14 million OFW plus million TNTs in Italy, Spain, Middle East, Japan and Sabah....88 million pa rin? Yung death rate-birth rate....those who die everyday other than natural death (victims of accidents, crime etc)

absolute 88 million pa rin?

Have you gone to the provinces almost empty in certain regions even in LUZOn....

[Jun aka Pekto]

OK ganito po yun...

Let's assume that our colleges and universities are world class (para wala na argument)

Tapos?

We would be producing a lot world class graduates schoolyear after schoolyear... thousands and thousands of them...

highly educated, highly intelligent...

BUT WHERE DO THEY GO?

Sa abroad.

SO SINO MAKIKINABANG SA PINAG ARALAN NILA?

Hindi ang Pinas.

The Koreans come here, learn english, go back to Korea and make Samsung and Hyundai two of the most recognizeable companies and brand names in the world.

see my point?

So our schools are good. But if the products of our schools do not benefit the homeland, what's the freakin point?!

Babalik at babalik parin ako sa lagi ko sinasabi...

Kelangan natin ng PUHUNAN.

Tingnan nyo ang nagagawa ng puhunan... tingnan nyo ang Dubai.

Who cares if they don't have enough domestic manpower and talent and skill and knowhow to turn a desert into brand new, shiny, glowing city...

THEY GOT CAPITAL. THEY GOT BILLIONS IN PETRODOLLARS AND THEY ARE SPENDING IT.

And that huge capital spending has attracted manpower and talent and skill and knowhow from all over the world.

Ask anyone in Dubai --- heck, everyone is there... even Donald Trump is there...

This is the only reality in this freakin world: MONEY TALKS. And people listen when money talks.

Everything else is pseudo-reality. Everything else is background noise.

The stark reality is the Philippines does not have a highly-coveted natural resource like oil. So, there's no easy money coming. In order to survive, the Philippines will have to do it the old fashioned way: hard work and creativeness. The problem is, how? I'm sure there are government think-tanks thinking precisely just that.

More capital? Forget it. So long as corruption is rampant, not many with the means will want to invest in the Philippines.

At this stage, dreams of the Philippines being competitive against other Asian neighbors in anything are just that, dreams. The only recourse left for the Philippines is to compete within itself. At least, that might achieve a measure of self-sufficiency. PGMA mandating local government to buy local stuff is a start. Smaller dreams and expectations? Sure. But, each small success achieved is a stepping stone to a potentially bigger success.

That's why I mentioned in another thread that people should stop comparing the Philippines to its more fortunate neighbors because all it does is raise expectations excessively. And should people from these countries make fun of the Philippines, take the abuse and use it as the motivating factor to get out of the rut. Revenge is a very valid motivator.

That's why the educational system needs to remain competitive. For now, many graduates are finding employment abroad. But, there will come a time when they'll be needed at home.

Add: Creativeness and opportunities can come from any direction. Take my 12-yr old daughter. She found out she has a talent for making clay sculptures (among her other talents). She started making little clay animals/figures, painting them, used our toaster oven to turn them into ceramic figurines, and attached them to key chains. She's selling them to fellow students in school for $2 apiece. In a short time, she has over $100 net savings. My wife, being the Pinay she is, wanted to take the money. But, I stopped her and let the kid manage her own finances. Our kid now has a little booklet detailing expenditures, records of customers, the most popular figurines, etc. Research? There's the internet. Not bad for a spoiled, 12-yr old brat.

[uls]

I used Dubai as an example of the power of capital spending.

The Phils. is different from Dubai.

But capital spending has the same effect in any country.

It makes a country prosper.

[jpdm]

SUCs in the provinces are good source of talents (agriculture and vocational courses). The government should tap top graduates there and give them contracts...

[rion]

I saw on ANC, some korean prefer here to avoid their ROTC.

[rion]

SUCs in the provinces are good source of talents (agriculture and vocational courses). The government should tap top graduates there and give them contracts...

Ironic, we always have problems with investors.

like recently Hanjin shipyard scandal.

news link

[Jun aka Pekto]

I used Dubai as an example of the power of capital spending.

The Phils. is different from Dubai.

But capital spending has the same effect in any country.

It makes a country prosper.

OT
Dubai has the benefit of oil money directly or indirectly to power its diversification. The Philippines has what? Last I heard, it was agriculture. But, whatever advantage there was slipped away years ago. Personally, I think the Philippines should've stuck to its agricultural roots since that's what the geography of the Philippines is good for.

Putting my foot in my own mouth.... Look at Vietnam. I wouldn't have imagined it'd be the 2nd largest coffee exporter in the world. Granted, Vietnam has its own oil reserves. But, that country stuck with what it's good at, agriculture. It's my feelings the Philippines should've done the same. Maybe diversify a bit, but stick to its roots.

Back to Topic:
The Philippine educational system has to keep turning out skilled/educated graduates because quitting is simply not an option.

[A121]

For Malthusian Economics yes..

But for investors and producers.....no.....

potential market.........

OT

I have a hunch one of the guessonomics statistics ito....

14 million OFW plus million TNTs in Italy, Spain, Middle East, Japan and Sabah....88 million pa rin? Yung death rate-birth rate....those who die everyday other than natural death (victims of accidents, crime etc)

absolute 88 million pa rin?

Have you gone to the provinces almost empty in certain regions even in LUZOn....

Pwede pero applicable pa rin ba today ung Malthusian Economics?

Sa akin kasi masama ung 88 million, di makapagprovide ng enough services for everybody.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I saw on ANC, some korean prefer here to avoid their ROTC.

I've seen how ROK troops discipline their own. A long time ago at a ROK base, I saw a ROK sergeant take a private out in the back and just just bury his fist on his gut then followed it up with a nasty slap to the face (enough to send the helmet flying). All because there was a blemish on the private's shiny boots.

Meanwhile there we were (GI's) watching, all muddy, stinky, and haven't taken a bath in 4 days.

[tidus1203]

Medyo OT: Pero instead of learning English these folks should start learning Mandarin Chinese. I don't know if their pride can take it but China will be the next great country in the world and certainly the leader here in Asia not Korea and not Japan....

[uls]

OT
Dubai has the benefit of oil money directly or indirectly to power its diversification. The Philippines has what? Last I heard, it was agriculture. But, whatever advantage there was slipped away years ago. Personally, I think the Philippines should've stuck to its agricultural roots since that's what the geography of the Philippines is good for.

Putting my foot in my own mouth.... Look at Vietnam. I wouldn't have imagined it'd be the 2nd largest coffee exporter in the world. Granted, Vietnam has its own oil reserves. But, that country stuck with what it's good at, agriculture. It's my feelings the Philippines should've done the same. Maybe diversify a bit, but stick to its roots.

Back to Topic:
The Philippine educational system has to keep turning out skilled/educated graduates because quitting is simply not an option.

I know Dubai is different from the Philippines.

It's obvious.

The Philippines isnt drilling holes in the ground.

I just used Dubai as an EXAMPLE.

All im saying is the effect of CAPITAL is the same anywhere in the world.

Capital spending is the life blood of any economy.

As long as a lot of capital is being spent (be it private or govt spending), any economy becomes highly energized.

Cut capital spending and any economy becomes anemic.

[ringostarr]

Dubai is being invested upon kasi parang Las Vegas vision yan ng isang wiseguy noon araw. not bec. it's a paradise of gambling in the desert but bec. Dubai is the most protected seafront in the world. nasa loob sya halos ng continent. look at the map.

if sea level rises due to global warming, hindi sya maapektuhan. if climate shifts, say lumamig sa Middle Eastern continent, tapos uminit sa Chinese continent naman, ready na ang mga building nya, all-weather eh.

that's why sobrang ang investment sa dubai on the good GREEN things. at sobra ang investment sa China on the bad Harmful thing like factories and other stuff. The Philippines naman is useless to invest bec. we will all be underwater if the time comes. sa Mountain PRovince lang puwede magtayo ng factory pero ang hirap ata noon, kasi sa delivery of goods pa lang paktay nasa akyat panaog.

hindi nyo napansin, mga planta dito sa'tin na multi-national tinatayo sa plains like sta. rosa, cavite and clark.

[uls]

syempre, sino naman magtatayo ng pabrika sa tuktok ng bundok?

hindi naman iniisip ng mga nagtatayo ng planta na malulubog sa tubig dagat ang planta nila dahil sa Al Gore global warming scenario.

Naaaapaaaakaaalaaayooo pa nun... if that is ever gonna happen.

[A121]

The Philippines naman is useless to invest bec. we will all be underwater if the time comes. sa Mountain PRovince lang puwede magtayo ng factory pero ang hirap ata noon, kasi sa delivery of goods pa lang paktay nasa akyat panaog.

hindi nyo napansin, mga planta dito sa'tin na multi-national tinatayo sa plains like sta. rosa, cavite and clark.

I wonder kung kelan ito mangyayari.

[ringostarr]

syempre, sino naman magtatayo ng pabrika sa tuktok ng bundok?

hindi naman iniisip ng mga nagtatayo ng planta na malulubog sa tubig dagat ang planta nila dahil sa Al Gore global warming scenario.

Naaaapaaaakaaalaaayooo pa nun... if that is ever gonna happen.

i dont know pero nakakatakot mga pangitain

just a week ago, my OFW friend in Kuwait phoned me and he told me umulan ng yelo dun. katakot daw

i searched youtube and I found a few clips na very disturbing

ice storm in Kuwait



snow in Saudi Arabia




kaya pala all-weather proof ang mga tinatayo sa Dubai na bldgs.


and recently sa news 2 days ago, US estimated 100,000 dead on Myanmar, Burma after a Cyclone. nabura daw mapa ng coastline. this is a South East Asian Country, neighbor lang natin

[Jun aka Pekto]

Kuwait is near 30 deg N Latitude as is northern Saudi Arabia. The same goes for northern Florida, central Texas, and southern Arizona. Most of the time, those areas don't get much snow. But once in a while, it happens. That "icestorm" in Kuwait is actually hail from a severe thunderstorm. Anyone from Florida and Texas would recognize it. Here, we got snow a year ago. Pretty rare. It only happens every few years.

[jpdm]

that's why sobrang ang investment sa dubai on the good GREEN things. at sobra ang investment sa China on the bad Harmful thing like factories and other stuff. The Philippines naman is useless to invest bec. we will all be underwater if the time comes. sa Mountain PRovince lang puwede magtayo ng factory pero ang hirap ata noon, kasi sa delivery of goods pa lang paktay nasa akyat panaog.

hindi nyo napansin, mga planta dito sa'tin na multi-national tinatayo sa plains like sta. rosa, cavite and clark.

*ringostarr

I understand your concern about the environment and I definitely agree with you. Anyway, "green technologies" are already available today and we can industrialize using such production methodology....

Its a matter of harmonizing development with environmental conservation and protection....

And schools in the Philippines are becoming more aware of sustainable development and environmental economics....