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    The Philippine government was supposed to magically conjure those stimulus funds sir. Is that too much to expect? Sheesh!
    One thing is clear -- this economic recession can be entirely attributed to Duterte's incompetence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    like i said everybody's borrowing due to corona

    even Vietnam

    Can you share an article that says Vietnam will avail of external loan to fund covid expenses?

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    If only the admin closed off all our borders early when local medical people advised them to, we probably would be closer in outcome to Vietnam. But no, malinis daw yung mga POGO na yun. Now look at this gargantuan mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Can you share an article that says Vietnam will avail of external loan to fund covid expenses?

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    Vietnam in talks to borrow $1 billion as budget deficit seen widening - Reuters

    They are thinking about it. Can't tax people if they're not earning much. Short term loan would be ideal indeed given the fact that like us, developing country pa din lang Vietnam.

    Though I am curious as why we need so much loan if the government can't even divulge where the money has gone. There is a think tank that made an assumed computation diba at ang dami pa available funds as per their report.

    Dami din kasi help from the private sectors eh kaya yung expenses for the frontliners I am sure eh hindi needed full budget because of for example, donations of facemasks, face shield and improvised PPE's, food and water and surgical gloves etc.

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    Apples and oranges. How about comparing PH and Vietnam?

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    Kahit malugmok pilipinas duterte pa rin. tapos isisisi lang yan ng mga supporter sa dilawan or sa kawalan ng disiplina or some other scapegoat

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    Duterte is beyond reproach to his supporters..its always their opponents fault

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    "if du30 wasn't president, would another admin have performed better?

    similar to Taiwan kaya ang response?

    i doubt it"

    Yup, you are objective. No political bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    "if du30 wasn't president, would another admin have performed better?

    similar to Taiwan kaya ang response?

    i doubt it"

    Yup, you are objective. No political bias.

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    i pointed out the faults of the admin which du30 diehards aren't capable of

    dami ko sinabi yan lang nakita mo?

    and that's your only argument to my posts?

    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i pointed out the faults of the admin which du30 diehards aren't capable of

    dami ko sinabi yan lang nakita mo?

    and that's your only argument to my posts?

    haha
    So are you admitting that you are an objective DDS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    So are you admitting that you are an objective DDS?

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    looks like i'm talking to a 5 year old here

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    looks like i'm talking to a 5 year old here
    Why so serious my friend

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    ^^^

    Lol! So Uls you conveniently left out the 2 or 3 cases from Wuhan and focused on the 12 local transmission which came from India <-- Austalia <-- China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    ^^^

    Lol! So Uls you conveniently left out the 2 or 3 cases from Wuhan and focused on the 12 local transmission which came from India <-- Austalia <-- China?

    your point was if another admin was in charge, there wouldn't be POGOs and chinamen to spread the virus here

    i posted the article to point out that even if you blocked the entry of chinamen, people from other countries would have brought the virus here

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    your point was if another admin was in charge, there wouldn't be POGOs and chinamen to spread the virus here

    i posted the article to point out that even if you blocked the entry of chinamen, people from other countries would have brought the virus here
    Irrelevant. The problem is how your president mismanaged the containment.

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    Add ko lang.. Sa age range namin na magkaka-trabaho and magkakaibigan.. 21 to early 30s.. Yung exchange of opinions, nagkaka sundo kami na based sa experience ng Pilipinas 1st time itong ganitong kalaking problem.. Ni review namin ang ibang candidates.. Di ko na isama dilawan.. Pero sample lang..
    Kung si Grace Poe, probably she can plan take action immediately.. Pero possible magka problema sya sa exexution and manning nung process nya. ***ist na, pero totoo naman mahirap pasunurin ang militar, kapulisan atbp kung babae leader nila.. Isa lang yan sa napag usapan namin.. Ending kung ano man yung ginagawa ng current administration, we are ok.. Even big countries nga nagkaka problema tayo pa.. Walang perfect administration kapag bago lang problema..
    Yung other countries na may magandang handling nung situation kasi meron na sila prior experience maliban sa COVID-19.. Kung maulit ito at same thing pa din gagawin ng Admin yun ang problema.. Dapat natuto na sa experience na ito..

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    I think some tsikoteers believe the problem is not the "loan" but where the money goes.

    Yun first loan [diba 2nd loan na ito?] after the lockdown, AFAIK, there were no clear records or breakdown who shall receive the money or what dept or agencies will get it. Saan nga ba napunta yun?

    May ibang options din naman like pwede nilang gamitin yun "intelligence" fund ng PRES Office, pero this takes time yata, hindi basta basta pwede ilipat lang ang budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    I think some tsikoteers believe the problem is not the "loan" but where the money goes.

    Yun first loan [diba 2nd loan na ito?] after the lockdown, AFAIK, there were no clear records or breakdown who shall receive the money or what dept or agencies will get it. Saan nga ba napunta yun?

    May ibang options din naman like pwede nilang gamitin yun "intelligence" fund ng PRES Office, pero this takes time yata, hindi basta basta pwede ilipat lang ang budget.

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    add to that they loaned another $500m? tapos sabay announce GCQ and wala ng ayuda since GCQ na.

    We need receipts and proof saan napupunta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    add to that they loaned another $500m? tapos sabay announce GCQ and wala ng ayuda since GCQ na.

    We need receipts and proof saan napupunta.


    kung hindi ayuda sa mamamayan gamitin nila pang stimulus sa ibang paraan

    basta gastusin ng gobyerno yan

    paikotin nila ung pera

    kung kailangan ihulog nila ang pera galing sa helicopter gawin nila

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