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  1. Join Date
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    re: Libya: Parang nagsimula nagkagulo a week after mahuli yung suspect sa massacre ng US Embassy sa Benghazi.

    Matatapang na mga lebyano ngayon, parang may kasama nang "religious" war. Yung report na napugutan ng ulo na pinoy dahil di sya karelihiyon. Nung andun ako nung unang uprising, isolate pa nila pinoy at uunahin mga masri, patani at mga puti na kapkapan. sa pinoy konting kapkap lang ayos na.

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    People create their monsters because it's a convenient way of distracting people from what's happening in the background.

    Case in Point: the evolution of "Al-Qaeda"

    it all began as freedom fighters against USSR. US hates communism so it decided to support them through the CIA and voila! Stinger MANPADs for everyone!

    thus Al Qaeda was born. It was all right for a while, then the blame for 9/11 went towards them. The whole world was looking for a villain. Who could come up with a plan so dastardly, it caught off-guard NORAD, CIA, and every other intelligence community, that the official explanation itself defies physics, so it had to be planned by somebody living under caves!

    and so, with everyone wielding their torches and pitchforks went ahead to start the war on terror!

    but uh-ah-uh, anybody could be a terrorist. it could be me, or it could be you! IDEA: let's start spying everyone through the NSA! And to make sure that this incident won't happen again, let's allow TSA to grope and invasively search every passenger! Feels good to be American doesn't it? Let's call it Patriot Act!

    Then everyone and his best friend decided to invade Afghanistan. But oh no! WMD's in Iraq! Let's invade that too! It's a freakin' brilliant idea isn't it? But sir, we didn't find any WMD's. Ooops!

    Several years later...

    Sir, we have committed a lot of our troops here in middle east and that guy over Libya isn't cooperative. There must be some way we could kick him out. Hmmm... who are those guys we helped two decades ago? Wacha-ma-call-em? Oh! Al Qaeda. But aren't they our enemy? Oh, I know! Let's rebrand them to Al Nusra and market them as freedom fighters and rebels! Everyone loves the underdogs! And to show our support, let's send humanitarian aid through GBUs!

    Win-Win for everyone! But sir, Syria isn't cooperative! Oh my god, what are we gonna do?! Let's rearm our Al Nusra friends in secret at Benghazi and use the death of our diplomat as an excuse! Surely everyone will buy that!

    Then Al Nusra moves over to Syria but they aren't winning. OMG! What are we gonna do, sir? Let's throw sanctions over Syria and Iran! Let's piss the bastards off and we'll even send McCain over to meet up with our Al Nusra friends for a photo op! Then Al Nusra gains support from every Jihadi world wide and wanted to cut off its leash to the US.

    OMG! Al Nusra isn't cooperating anymore! What are we gonna do?! Aren't we supposed to arm these guys awhile back? Well, they do have Stingers, M198 Howitzers, Blackhawks and other cargo planes delivered. Let's rebrand them as ISIS and market them as fanatics and merciless terrorists! Then bomb the living hell out of those ingrate bastards!
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    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Ok lang yan, let them kill each other. Less competition for resources.

    Sana sa china na din, sana magrevolution na walang clear winner and it becomes a long drawn civil war.

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    Let the hot heads kill each other. The problem is there is too much collateral damage, the old, the sick, the women and the defenseless children. They don't fight like they used to. The ISIS use human shields, heck they even use masks. They are the faceless monsters. They don't know what the Geneva conventions is all about. They don't even aim the firearms they probably just like the sound of gun burst whatever they hit they hit. They are destroying their own people and country for religion. They don't know what freedom is. Maybe by then when they are the oppressed when they would seek and enjoy freedom


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    #15
    Same age old problem...Sunnis fighting Shias... ISIS is Sunnis being financed by America's pal, House of Saud. While unfriendly countries get sanctioned left and right by the Western world with the mere mention of "terrorist financier"...

    Why the Iraq Mess Is So Awkward for Saudi Arabia

    By Joshua Keating

    The governments of Saudi Arabia and Qatar are very loudly blaming the “sectarian and exclusionary policies” of Nouri al-Maliki for the violence in Iraq. They’re not wrong, but this also deflects from an issue they’d rather not discuss—the role of wealthy funders in the Gulf in helping ISIS rise to prominence.

    Qatar has officially stopped giving aid to more radical groups under U.S. pressure, and Saudi Arabia has also backed off its support of the rebels, a process the culminated in the removal of spy chief and Syria point man Prince Bandar bin Sultan earlier this year, but private donations from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states—notably Kuwait—have likely continued.

    For the last few months, the Saudi government in particular has been attempting, somewhat awkwardly, to both continue to fund non-extremist groups fighting Assad while combating the growth of al-Qaida and its affiliates and offshoots. The kingdom has good reason to fear the revival of an al-Qaida-like group with wide territorial ambitions. The government claims to have broken up a terrorist cell in May that had links to both ISIS and al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula. ISIS has also reportedly launched a recruitment drive in Riyadh.

    Maliki has accused both Saudi Arabia and Qatar of directly supporting the group. The Gulf monarchies would certainly prefer to see his Shiite-dominated government replaced, but in addition to the risk of blowback against their regimes from ISIS terrorism, the geopolitical situation in Iraq seems unlikely to work itself out in their favor.

    Saudi Arabia, in particular, has watched with growing alarm in recent months, and relations between the U.S. and Iran have begun to improve. Now, thanks to the Iraq crisis, we’re seeing the nearly unprecedented possibility of U.S.-Iranian security cooperation to help resolve the situation.

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    #16
    sa bawat baril na pumutok meron kumikita.

    ano ba ang ginagamit ng mga yan para pumatay? sila ba ang nag manufacture or delivered by another country?

    kung puputulin mo ang supply ng weapons, kaya na ba i-manage ang patayan?

    ang mga pumapatay ay tinatawag na terorista. ano ba ang pwedeng itawag sa mga nag manufacture ng baril na ginagamit ng mga terorista?

    e kung ung gumagawa ng baril at ibinebenta ang baril nya sa terorista ang papatayin?

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    #17
    they may be super rich and all that... but deep in their hearts, they're still local tribesmen, ekeing out a living in the desert. and if the neighboring tribe makes a suspicious move, they counteract immediately.
    israel is something else. i see them as the middle east's equivalent to the greek myrmidons. they probably have eleven commandments instead of the more popular ten...

    kasalanan yan ng british empire, e. when they left, they made sure everything was a mess..
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    #18
    Extreme Islamism... I guess they want world to be a babaric and inhuman place...

    Never wish other countries to befall the same fate...there is something called karma...







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    And who are providing arms to these scoundrels???

    Leader: ISIS is ‘Systematically Beheading Children' in 'Christian Genocide'



    Christianity in Mosul is dead, and a Christian holocaust is in our midst," said Mark Arabo, a Californian businessman and Chaldean-American leader. In an interview with CNN's Jonathan Mann, he called what's happening in Iraq a "Christian genocide" and said "children are being beheaded, mothers are being raped and killed, and fathers are being hung."

    "Right now, three thousand Christians are in Iraq fleeing to neighboring cities," he told Mann. Arabo is calling on the international community to follow France's lead and offer the Christians of Iraq asylum.

    "You're startling me with the severity of what you're describing," the CNN host said. "You said they are --- beheading children?"

    "They are systematically beheading children," Arabo repeated slowly. "And mothers and fathers. The world hasn't seen an evil like this for generations."

    "There's actually a park in Mosul where they actually beheaded children and put their heads on a stick... this is crimes against humanity. They are doing the most horrendous, the most heart-breaking crimes that you can think of."

    Mann asked about the ISIS letter sent to Christians in Mosul, demanding that they either convert to Islam, pay a fine or be put to "death by the sword."

    "It's very clear they are killing people, but are Christians managing to escape by paying a fine?" he asked.

    Arabo reports that after Christians pay the fine, the fighters take the Christian wives and children "and make them their wives - so it's really convert, or die."

    This is a tweet that reportedly shows Yazidi children who escaped the fighters by fleeing to the mountains, but have died from lack of food and water there:

    A quick scan of Youtube shows the truth of what Arabo is saying - there are gruesome videos of heads on spikes, and many of live beheadings (one poor Christian is forced to say the Shahada 'there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Prophet' and then beheaded anyway.)

    Warning: don't google these things unless you have a strong stomach.

    "They are absolutely killing every Christian they see," Arabo said of ISIS. "This is absolutely a genocide in every sense of the word. They want everyone to convert, and they want sharia law to be the law of the land."

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    America and it's allies opened a Pandora's box when they removed Saddam and Qaddafi. These dictators were cruel tyrants but a least they had these religious nutjobs under control.



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