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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    kahapon tumawag kamaganak ko na nasa states at napagusapan namin ang presyo ng gas. langhya nagrereklamo ramdam daw nila ang mahal ng gas dun. naisip ko lng kapal naman ng mukha neto eh mas mahal pa ata gas namin dito sa pilinas eh i hope my computations are right sa kanila $3.51 a gallon sa atin $4.33 per gallon tayo tama ba?

    sa isang bansa gaya ng US where the cost of a car is about half the price here and their wage is 10times compared here i find it ironic na nagcocomplain pa yun mokong na yun. akala ko ba karamihan dun middle class? eh mga nasa middleclass dito they dont care.. makes me think na poor yun mga nasa states ang yabang pa naman ng mga nandun

    eh dito nga sa pinas eh ang trapik pa eh parang walang crisis eh.

    dito nga sa pinas parang training ni rocky eh lagi NO PAIN

    PRICE OF GAS

    P15---ok

    P20---no pain

    P25---no pain

    P30---no pain( ako umaray)

    P35---no pain(nagpaconvert nako lpg)

    P40---no pain

    P45---no pain(dami pa din oto dito sa paligid ko)

    P50---no pain(ganun pa din yan)

    P55---no pain(ganun pa din yan wlang mababago)

    P60---no pain(ganun pa din)

    P65---no pain(ganun pa din)

    P70---no pain(ganun pa din)

    P75---no pain

    P80---manhid na haha


    pero i see gas prices should stabilize at around a little bit lower than $4.45 since that is the cost of producing an equivalent gallon of hydrogen. of course that does not include the politics of the oil cartel.

    i expect decline in noticeable trafic(since many will not be using their cars) at around 70 per liter


    mlamang pumalo na ng P50(unleaded) by june since dami pa kulang ng US sa stockpile nila 50% plang ata sila ngyon

    haay buhay
    Last edited by boydapa; April 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 AM.

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    well i agree with you in many ways. tanong ko, why are the huge US oil companies getting bigger and bigger profits at the sacrifice of oil consumers? bakit hindi pwedeng i-peg ang profit nila by not using percentage of cost per barrels' worth? same sa atin. ang RVAT, for example is 12% ng oil price. definitely there's a big difference between 12% of P37 vs 12% of P45 cost per liter, also the same with the local oil companies' profit. kaya nga may nagsi-circulate na email ngayon na in order to force the big oil companies to reduce their prices, i-boycott daw ang pagbili sa kanila at doon tayo bumili sa small oil companies. it's worth trying, at mas mura din naman talaga by a few cents ang gasoline sa small oil players.

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    hinde kasi porke nasa america eh mayaman, hinde rin naman pinupulot ang pera doon...dollars ang kita dollars din ang gastos....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    hinde kasi porke nasa america eh mayaman, hinde rin naman pinupulot ang pera doon...dollars ang kita dollars din ang gastos....
    At least somebody understands.

    They don't announce price increases here like they do in the Philippines so the price can go up anytime. The $3.51 is the US average some places have $4 + for gas. Here in Guam where gas is now $4.19 per gallon, the minimum wage is only $5.85 per hour, and not having a car means no way to get to work as there is no public transportation. Some people have to work two to three jobs just to survive and still feed their extended family in the Philippines who assume that life in the US is heavenly.
    Last edited by redorange; April 23rd, 2008 at 12:47 PM.

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    i know someone who works with a petroleum company here. they actually made a profit last year in the billions. (in the tens of billions ata)

    for the life of me, i cant reconcile that with the fact that they keep raising prices which in turn drives prices of basic commodities up? there is something wrong there, i think.

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    blame fuel prices on the weak US dollar.

    oil is priced in dollars.

    Everyone with a strong currency can buy more dollars...

    Which in turn is used to buy oil.

    But since oil is a finite resource and there's too much money chasing oil, there is tremendous upward pressure on the price of oil.

    Oil is now almost $120/barrel.

    Same thing is happening with rice.

    And many other commodities.

    -----------------------------------

    $4 a gallon oil is the result of the weak USD.

    dont blame the oil companies.

    dont blame OPEC and other oil produces.

    Blame the Fed.

    they created to much dollars.

    the world is flooded with dollars.

    trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars...

    what happens when all that money tries to buy the very finite, very limited commodities in the world?

    INFLATION.
    Last edited by uls; April 23rd, 2008 at 01:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    hinde kasi porke nasa america eh mayaman, hinde rin naman pinupulot ang pera doon...dollars ang kita dollars din ang gastos....
    agree din ako dito. kaya lang naman mukhang malaki ang sweldo sa US ay kung iconvert mo to pesos. pero sa US, maliit lang yun. mataas ang cost of living nila. isipin mo ang pagupit lang equivalent dito mga 500 pesos! kaya mga kakilala kong ofw pag umuuwi dito nagpapakalbo. para tipid daw sa gupit dun. also take in consideration that they use more fuel. they travel longer distances with bigger cars. plus the maintenance! susmaryosep. pasalamat pa tayo na may banawe at mura't magagaling na mekaniko dito.

    pero grabe nga ang 47 pesos to a liter dito. hindi na makatao.

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    I just wish they'd hurry up with the introduction and refinement of CRDi VGT everything ...

    bukod sa elite lang ang may tsikot dito sa Pinas, mas efficient mga sasakyan dito at mas maliliit. Mas mareklamo nga sa gaso ang ibang taga 1st world, kaso bakit di muna kaya bawasan ang mga V6 at V8 at dagdagan ang diesel man lang?

    Nung Civic tsikot ko na nakaka 12-14 kms/liter, di ko halos nararamdaman kung 2-3 pesos lang ang price increase ng gaso eh. Lalo kung bumababa din after a whie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pup2 View Post
    I just wish they'd hurry up with the introduction and refinement of CRDi VGT everything ...

    bukod sa elite lang ang may tsikot dito sa Pinas, mas efficient mga sasakyan dito at mas maliliit. Mas mareklamo nga sa gaso ang ibang taga 1st world, kaso bakit di muna kaya bawasan ang mga V6 at V8 at dagdagan ang diesel man lang?

    Nung Civic tsikot ko na nakaka 12-14 kms/liter, di ko halos nararamdaman kung 2-3 pesos lang ang price increase ng gaso eh. Lalo kung bumababa din after a whie.

    Totoo yan, maraming gusto ng malakas na makina pero pag tumaas ang presyo ng gasolina aangal rin sila. Dito sa California galit sila sa diesel kaya masmahal pa ang diesel kaysa sa premium. Gayahin dapat ang Europe, small efficient cars kahit diesel masmatipid pa rin kaysa sa mga hybrids. Dito lang naman nauso ang hybrid sa US dahil ayaw nila ng diesel.

    Now, I drive less and slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pup2 View Post
    I just wish they'd hurry up with the introduction and refinement of CRDi VGT everything ...

    bukod sa elite lang ang may tsikot dito sa Pinas, mas efficient mga sasakyan dito at mas maliliit. Mas mareklamo nga sa gaso ang ibang taga 1st world, kaso bakit di muna kaya bawasan ang mga V6 at V8 at dagdagan ang diesel man lang?

    Nung Civic tsikot ko na nakaka 12-14 kms/liter, di ko halos nararamdaman kung 2-3 pesos lang ang price increase ng gaso eh. Lalo kung bumababa din after a whie.


    Because diesel engines got a bad reputation in the US from the 70's gas crisis as being smoke belching engines with not much horsepower. Since then the market has elected to buy smaller displacement engines as opposed to diesel engines. That same crisis also forced car makers(domestic and foreign) to make cleaner and more fuel efficient engines. It's true that people have V6 and V8 engine cars but a greater majority of the people here actually own 4 cylinder cars. If you look at the Camry alone more 4 cylinder versions are sold compared to the V6. This current gas pricing problem will again force car makers to make better cars that will get better mileage. There is also talk of car makers bringing in diesel version of their vehicles but they still have to find a way to pass the emissions testing. What is considered a clean diesel engine in the Philippines wouldn't pass the emissions testing in the US, much less for California who other states are now starting to follow with regards to emissions requirements.

    As for cars being more efficient in the Philipines that can be debated ,since how efficient is it to sit in traffic for 2 hours to move 10 miles. The cars are smaller because so are the roadways and the people and the slower speed they travel. Try driving a small car like the Picanto, Alto, etc at freeeway speeds, not the 65mph posted but closer to the 75mph-85mph(120km/h-136km/h) and have a big rig pass by and see if that doesn't make you pray to all the saints in heaven.
    Last edited by redorange; April 24th, 2008 at 08:36 AM.

  11. #11
    Buti na lang dito sa ME mura ang petrol.

    4.80AED/gallon (1AED=P10.5) so thats around=P50.40/gallon

    P50.40/3.785412 (4L=1gallon) so thats P13.31/L...mura diba?


    Full tank ko ng 2.4L accord umaabot lang ng 73AEDX10.5= P766.50

    fyi
    Last edited by awing; April 23rd, 2008 at 04:12 PM.

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