maniniwala ba kayo?

[pyeh!]

need your opinion here guys:

maniniwala ba kayo na serbisyo publiko lang ang gusto ng mga pulitiko partikular ang mga tumatakbo sa pagka senador ngaung eleksyon...

P35,000 kada buwan o P420,000 kada taon lang ang sweldo ng mga senador natin sa bansa.

sa laki ng ginagastos nila 30 milyon hanggang 100 milyon o mahigit pa sa kampanya...MANINIWALA BA KAYO na paglilingkod lang sa bayan ang tanging hangarin nila?

[j_avonni]

Tell that to the Marines!

[spongee]

kailangan pa bang i-memorize yan?

[the josh]

naaahhh!

[claRkEnt]

next question please.....

[lolo pepe]

need your opinion here guys:

maniniwala ba kayo na serbisyo publiko lang ang gusto ng mga pulitiko partikular ang mga tumatakbo sa pagka senador ngaung eleksyon...

P35,000 kada buwan o P420,000 kada taon lang ang sweldo ng mga senador natin sa bansa.

sa laki ng ginagastos nila 30 milyon hanggang 100 milyon o mahigit pa sa kampanya...MANINIWALA BA KAYO na paglilingkod lang sa bayan ang tanging hangarin nila?

:hysterical:

[shadow]

napakaswerte nga natin dito sa pipilipinas, dahil lahat ng candidates willing gumastos ng milyon-milyon, para lang mapaglingkuran tayo...heheheh

[VtEC]

In my dreams!!!!!
di naman magpapakamatay ang mga yan ng walang kapalit.

[istan]

Hahahaha! Yeah...and I'm a donkey.

[lolo pepe]

Their salary is 30t a month but they have a private piggybank called DPWH .

plus pork barrel funds - 200 million para sa senador at 60 million para sa congressman per year. kung gagastos ang isang senador ng 100 M sa elections at manalo, bawi na agad niya ang investment at me 100% pang tubo after a year. tapos wala pang public accountability kung saan napunta ang pera.

paglilingkod sa bayan? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[team_PONGLAI_11]

h i n d e !!!

[evs_13]

ha??? ano ulit yung tanong????

[oldblue]

need your opinion here guys:

maniniwala ba kayo na serbisyo publiko lang ang gusto ng mga pulitiko partikular ang mga tumatakbo sa pagka senador ngaung eleksyon...

P35,000 kada buwan o P420,000 kada taon lang ang sweldo ng mga senador natin sa bansa.

sa laki ng ginagastos nila 30 milyon hanggang 100 milyon o mahigit pa sa kampanya...MANINIWALA BA KAYO na paglilingkod lang sa bayan ang tanging hangarin nila?

in a sense yes, kung may kaya na dati pa yun pulitiko na tumatakbo chances are bored na yun sa marangya pamumuhay

having power is a good motivator ika nga to have sense or meaning in life.

ito yun pinag-uusapan natin noon bata pa tayo, paglaki ko ganito gusto ko mangyari. and d'ba usually noon bata pa tayo we dont take into consideration the costs, basta gusto natin gawin , dun tayo masaya eh

mahirap din kasi isipin na kesyo 35k lang salary niya tapos gagastos ng 100M or 1B sa election eh siguradong mangungurakot na

politicians are just representatives of a cause worth fighting for or a clash of warring opinions. yun nag-raise ng 100M for him has interests to protect. interests than can serve another but put another into a 6-foot grave.

let's take for example the call center industry. if for say Erap in his ruling days, concentrated more on gambling and all forms of gambling as a major source of income for Filipinos. hindi niya papansinin ang call center industry. to him parang farfetched iyun.

so what will you do as a businessman or an entrepreneur who had the idea that call center can be something big someday, lobby for it and get political allies. it'll cost a lot of money. but it will become a policy one day.

look at us now, a fraction of Filipinos are dependent on the call center industry. This let your parents buy cars, shelter, food for you. that's politics * work.

there are so many policies that can be adopted and invented. most of the time nag-clash yan kasi may kanya-kanya interest. hence, from policy naging politics (or politicking) and therefore, the rise of the politician.

whether we like it or not, politicians are bigger than 25k to 100k salaries.

this moves us all to the future. kaya ganyan ang gastusan dyan to the tune of Billions.

mahirap talaga maging estudyante at ibase lang lahat sa natutunan sa books, we should get involve in the system to fully realize na necessary ang lahat ng nangyayari na ito sa'tin. even after a nuclear war, and na-wipe out lahat ng major cities oozing with bureaucracy, politics and red tape. yun mga survivors will still have politics and politicians

[Asus700]

in a sense yes, kung may kaya na dati pa yun pulitiko na tumatakbo chances are bored na yun sa marangya pamumuhay

having power is a good motivator ika nga to have sense or meaning in life.

ito yun pinag-uusapan natin noon bata pa tayo, paglaki ko ganito gusto ko mangyari. and d'ba usually noon bata pa tayo we dont take into consideration the costs, basta gusto natin gawin , dun tayo masaya eh

mahirap din kasi isipin na kesyo 35k lang salary niya tapos gagastos ng 100M or 1B sa election eh siguradong mangungurakot na

politicians are just representatives of a cause worth fighting for or a clash of warring opinions. yun nag-raise ng 100M for him has interests to protect. interests than can serve another but put another into a 6-foot grave.

let's take for example the call center industry. if for say Erap in his ruling days, concentrated more on gambling and all forms of gambling as a major source of income for Filipinos. hindi niya papansinin ang call center industry. to him parang farfetched iyun.

so what will you do as a businessman or an entrepreneur who had the idea that call center can be something big someday, lobby for it and get political allies. it'll cost a lot of money. but it will become a policy one day.

look at us now, a fraction of Filipinos are dependent on the call center industry. This let your parents buy cars, shelter, food for you. that's politics * work.

there are so many policies that can be adopted and invented. most of the time nag-clash yan kasi may kanya-kanya interest. hence, from policy naging politics (or politicking) and therefore, the rise of the politician.

whether we like it or not, politicians are bigger than 25k to 100k salaries.

this moves us all to the future. kaya ganyan ang gastusan dyan to the tune of Billions.

mahirap talaga maging estudyante at ibase lang lahat sa natutunan sa books, we should get involve in the system to fully realize na necessary ang lahat ng nangyayari na ito sa'tin. even after a nuclear war, and na-wipe out lahat ng major cities oozing with bureaucracy, politics and red tape. yun mga survivors will still have politics and politicians

this is a dangerous position, parang sinabi natin na ganyan talaga, wala tayong magagawa. do i have to get involve to realize and consequently approve of what they do?

this is part of the reason kung bakit tayo nakasadlak sa position natin ngayon. those who raised their hands and say, we have to live with it instead of saying why live with it if we can change it?

call centers are here not because of politics. call centers were already here and politics are simply riding the bandwagon to look good.

[Hanren]

need your opinion here guys:

maniniwala ba kayo na serbisyo publiko lang ang gusto ng mga pulitiko partikular ang mga tumatakbo sa pagka senador ngaung eleksyon...

P35,000 kada buwan o P420,000 kada taon lang ang sweldo ng mga senador natin sa bansa.

sa laki ng ginagastos nila 30 milyon hanggang 100 milyon o mahigit pa sa kampanya...MANINIWALA BA KAYO na paglilingkod lang sa bayan ang tanging hangarin nila?

Kaya nga nila dinedespise ang mga politiko kasi ang alam ng mga politiko na yan eh mga t*nga ang karamihan sa atin. Hindi naman lahat pero "halos" lahat. Kaya nga ang image na nakalakip sa mga politico eh buyawa. Ang hindi alam ng mga politiko na yan, we are just biting the bullet at nagtitimpli na lang. We have no choice because we are in a very helpless situation. May election nga pero hindi ito yung totoong pinagmumulan ng totoong pagbabago. But don't lose hope. Marami pa ang pwedeng magbigay ng pagasa sa bayan. tingin tingin ka lang sa mga tsikoteers dito.

[oldblue]

Kaya nga nila dinedespise ang mga politiko kasi ang alam ng mga politiko na yan eh mga t*nga ang karamihan sa atin. Hindi naman lahat pero "halos" lahat. Kaya nga ang image na nakalakip sa mga politico eh buyawa. Ang hindi alam ng mga politiko na yan, we are just biting the bullet at nagtitimpli na lang. We have no choice because we are in a very helpless situation. May election nga pero hindi ito yung totoong pinagmumulan ng totoong pagbabago. But don't lose hope. Marami pa ang pwedeng magbigay ng pagasa sa bayan. tingin tingin ka lang sa mga tsikoteers dito.

to be honest, yun talaga. politicians are very smart people, in fact intelligent breed talaga mga yan. they study a lot and they study people a lot: people's behaviour, desires, wants, needs, limitations, capabilities etc ...

the problem kasi with the masses is that they dont want to study nor to educate themselves in the field of human communication. they just want to BEG!

ngaun bakit ganun ang mentality ng karamihan sa'tin, gusto na lang manghingi. bec. it's the politicians themselves who made us feel this way: ask or beg for what is due or what is rightfully mine --- which in reality, hindi din ito ang pinagdaan ng isang politician in the making. he didnt beg nor he didnt wait for "grasya" to come falling to his lap. He just took what he can claim in this world.

but one quality of a politician na wala sa kahit sinuman sa'tin, he gives and takes. tayo kasi mga ordinaryong citizen, we only want to take, demand what is ours, for the tax that we pay, we want a return tenfold. if this is satisfied, then's that's the only time we will cooperate ...

those politicians who are assasinated, charged with corruption, humiliated by media, yun yun breed na hindi pa perfected ang art. kasi nasa kanila pa din yun "greed" -> "satisfy me first, before I give".

the best politicians are chess players. he'll let you feed on her queen, but in the end his power prevails.

[empy]

sige, i will help play :devil: 's advocate...

i read somewhere that Manny Villar has already spent more than P100M on his campaign. the same article says he's a multibillionaire businessman and real estate tycoon. so imo, it's conceivable that he'll willingly spend what to him is a fraction of his net worth to have power and influence that cannot be measured in pesos. and he certainly wont go hungry if he never sees a centavo of that money back.

so the question really is, what does he want that power and influence for? to steal even more money? maybe, but maybe not. if all he wanted to do was make money, why not continue with the whole real estate thing?

to have power? maybe. the power to be top banana, make laws and be a part of the country's "leadership team" may be an intoxicating and immensely desirable thing, particularly to someone who has so many millions that money doesnt carry all that much meaning anymore.

to make a difference during one's life? i sure hope so. you guys live in a catholic country, where the belief system says that the measure of a man, and his eternal reward, is measured not in earthly possessions but the number of his fellow men that he helps.

maybe more people than you think enter politics tired of complaining about the state of the country and actually trying to do something about it (of course, some of those do-gooders will get corrupted along the way)

i'm only using Manny Villar as an example and i don't really know the guy. for all i know he may have a tail and two horns behind the silly dance moves :hihihi: but i hope the point comes across.

[the_wildthing]

maybe more people than you think enter politics tired of complaining about the state of the country and actually trying to do something about it (of course, some of those do-gooders will get corrupted along the way)

My sentiments exactly. Wag na kayong mag reklamo kung wala rin naman kayong ginagawa para sa ikabubuti ng sistema.

[lolo pepe]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x_6zF4owCz4

Senator Miriam Defensor and 2 former senators, Jovito Salonga and Rene Saguisag have spoken and admitted that...

kaya ako talagang dehins naniniwala!!!