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View Poll Results: Senate's verdict on CJ

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    58 84.06%
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    9 13.04%
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  1. Join Date
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    45 alleged real estate properties of CJ Corona. Pero sabi ni Corona 5 lang daw. Kung mapatunayan ng prosecution kahit isa lang dun sa 40 properties, this will be a strong case against Corona.

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    Pero may namersonal kasi sa congressman-prosectuor na fighting for the wrong side si justice cuevas..

    Tapos nung trial ni erap masyado aloof yung grupo ni lawyer estelito and fortun brothers. Naalala ko dati dami inis sa fortun brothers.

    Ngayon kay dr dre marami natutuwa. Hindi sya nakakainis. Ngayon lang ako nakakita ng librong nagsasalita.

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    Hindi naman kailangan i-prove ng prosecution na guilty beyond reasonable doubt to impeach cj corona diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Hindi naman kailangan i-prove ng prosecution na guilty beyond reasonable doubt to impeach cj corona diba?
    political exercise ika nga.

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    Lawyers are required by oath to represent their clients to the best of their ability, regardless of what the public may think.

    Justice Cuevas, Ed De los Angeles, and the rest of the defense counsels are no different as they represent their client.

    In the Erap impeachment case, marami nainis kina Atty. Sig and Raymund Fortun, Estelito Mendoza and Raul Daza precisely because they were doing their jobs well (in fact, they kicked the butts of the prosecutors being lead then by Sergio Apostol). If the prosecutors were any good then, why did they have to walk out after an adverse interlocutory order? It's a case of theatrics mixed with pikon

    The prosecution team of Cong. Tupas would do well to drop the pa pogi on TV and buckle down to work.
    Last edited by Altis6453; January 18th, 2012 at 12:36 PM.

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    Iba yung erarp trial dahil mas di hamak ok ang prosecution noon kaysa ngayon. Overstatement yung kick-butt sa kinahantungan na pagkaalis ni erap.

    Yung inis dati more sa angas nung fortun brothers pag iniinterview ng media. Masyado maangas na wala sa lugar.

    Tandaan nyo may media coverage ito. Pansinin nyo defense team ngayon kung paano magbigay ng interview at babae na.

    Kung baga may natutunan na sa nangyari dati.

    Ngayon ang prosecution ang maangas kaso nagboomerang sa kanila ng ganito simula pa lang.

    Tawa talaga ako magsalita si computer generated. Ang dami sinabi postponement lang pala gusto.

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    *retz, tama, dahil it's not a criminal court,

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    Prosecution then and now are both incompetent compare to the two defense teams.

    Mas halata lang ngayon dahil hinde allowed mga private lawyers mag interpolate or something.

    Saka people are more mature na ngayon unlike dati na first time makapanood ng impeachment proceedings.

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    Saka baka magulat tayo Sa prosecutions, hinde rin naman pipitsugin mga private prosecutors hinde Lang Kasi nation maps kid dahil hinde allowed mag salita. Galling ng defense they stopped the private prosecutors from engaging them directly.

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    so pwede pala mangyari ito?
    pwede mag-issue ang SC ng TRO?


    http://opinion.inquirer.net/21343/qu...eachment-trial


    What will happen if Chief Justice Renato Corona goes to the Supreme Court to ask for a restraining order against his impeachment trial in the Senate? Can the justices be totally objective, since it is their own chief who is on trial? Isn’t this conflict of interest? Ordinarily, judges and justices in this situation inhibit themselves from a case. Or the other side asks them to inhibit themselves. But if all 12 associate members appointed by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (the same block who earlier voted, along with Corona, to issue the TRO against the hold-departure order of the Department of Justice and allow GMA to leave the country and escape prosecution) inhibited themselves, there would be no Supreme Court left.

    And if the Court issues a TRO against the Senate trial, will the Senate obey it? The senators have held that the impeachment and trial of impeachable officials are the sole prerogative of Congress and the courts cannot meddle in it. In fact, the Senate has its own rules on the conduct of an impeachment trial which are different from the Rules of Court followed by the judiciary.

    What if the Senate does not recognize the TRO? What can the Court do to enforce it? It can cite the senators for contempt, but how would it enforce it? The tribunal has no police powers to enforce its orders. Of course, Corona and his lawyers can boycott the Senate trial. But the Senate can allow the prosecution to present its evidence and witnesses ex parte, meaning the defense will be unable to counter the prosecution’s evidence, cross examine its witnesses, and present its own evidence and witnesses. Without any defense witnesses and evidence, the senators have no choice but to convict Corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    so pwede pala mangyari ito?
    pwede mag-issue ang SC ng TRO?


    http://opinion.inquirer.net/21343/qu...eachment-trial
    the more we need legislative and even constitutional reforms to avoid situations like this.

    sa totoo lang, sa lahat ng kaguluhang ito kasama na yung mga previous issues sa bansa natin, kongreso (both houses) lang naman ang dapat sisihin. ang dami nilang "investigations in aid of legislation" pero bakit walang improvement? bakit ayaw ng charter change? tsk tsk

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    to those who want to watch live streaming

    ANC Live Events | ABS-CBN News Channel, the Philippines' first 24-hour global cable news channel | ABS-CBN News

    Cuevas now speaking, questions changing of sequence of articles of impeachment, says this violates Corona's right to due process.

    The Prosecution team want Article 7 to present? kala ko ba nadala na sila kahapon

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    Pwede ba sa iPad yan video stream?

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    I think Ipad (Opera) browser does not support flash type player

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    Dapat meron podcast for working peeps.

    Anyway, thanks to a small transistor radio, I'm following the proceedings live on AM.

    Cuevas is still pretty sharp. Tupas, fumbling about with direct questioning of CoC of the SC.

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    Marunong talaga humarap sa tv si justice cuevas. Kung ito sana ginawang lead defense ni erap baka iba pa nangyari.

    Galing nung objection ni dr beats cuevas sa mga tanong ni lawyer baustista. "You are impeaching the clerk of court"

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    bautista is being schooled by JPE. binibgyan ng leksyon sa paraan ng pagtatanong

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pwede ba sa iPad yan video stream?
    use skyfire browser. capable of playing live streams. i have a hacked version on my iphone. may bayad kasi hehehe

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    naglabas na ng libro si enrile para magbigyan ng lecture si bautista.

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    Ibang klase ito si dr beats cuevas. Cool na cool. Walang personalan talaga. Kahit breaktime nakipag joke na naman sa prosecution. Eh nung trial ni erap wala naman ganyan. Sobrang tense dati.

    Bwenas naman ni corona.

Impeachment against CJ Corona..