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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Oh, oh INC members are now outside SC...seriously can they just stay out of state's business...maybe nararamdaman na nilang irrelevant na sila, kaya kailangan magpapansin nanaman...
    Sarado na yung Padre Faura ngayon. Kasama ba si Gatdula sa mga nagrarally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto

    Sarado na yung Padre Faura ngayon. Kasama ba si Gatdula sa mga nagrarally?
    Hinde ko alam, pero baka siya head ng security

    INC=iglesia ni corona

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    Anak ng tokwa, pulitikong pulitiko na si CJ ngayon.

    Ayos ka shadow. Goodbye INM, hello INC.

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    eh dapat magtawag na rin ang mga anti-corona.
    labanan na ng people power.
    siguro naman mas marami ang anti-corona nyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    eh dapat magtawag na rin ang mga anti-corona.
    labanan na ng people power.
    siguro naman mas marami ang anti-corona nyan.
    Hindi na dapat mangyari yan eh. Only proves na politicized na ang SC ngayon, hindi maganda sa image nila yan.

    Corona should resign, he's dragging SC to its grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    eh dapat magtawag na rin ang mga anti-corona.
    labanan na ng people power.
    siguro naman mas marami ang anti-corona nyan.
    nag-rally din kanina ang anti-corona sa harap ng senate. di na talaga maalis yang mga pro and anti na yan, just like nong erap and davide empeachment issues. Dito lang ata sa tsikot mas marami ang anti corona. take a look at the comments in yahoo news about corona's impeachment. Parang mas marami ata ang pro corona, tapos almost all justices, judges and court employees support him. Plus the IBP, Ateneo Law School and Iglesia ni Cristo. Kaya kung sakaling kumandidato sya sa pagka-senador next year, siguradong panalo yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde ko alam, pero baka siya head ng security

    INC=iglesia ni corona
    nice one. hehe! INC-Iglesia ni Corona.

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    Saka naiiba usapan Bakit Ang laki ng discrepancy Sa net worth na declared niya sa SALN compare Sa actual numbers based on bank records...yun Lang yun...yun Lang Ang sagutin Huwag na paikutin pa mga Tao...

    Eh kung talagang matapang siya eh sabihin niya na lahat ng Sobrang amount na makikita Sa declared net worth Sa SALN idonate na niya

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    Corrupt talaga si Corona. Daming tagong yaman.

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    o sagot na manikis.......

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    BTT

    may ongoing press con sa SC
    si marquez nagsasalita.

    SC defers action on corona to stop impeachement trial, pero SC issues tro on $ accounts ni corona. 8-5 ang boto.
    Last edited by chua_riwap; February 9th, 2012 at 06:07 PM.

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    Will senate as impeachment court follow the TRO?

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    Umpisa na ang constitutional crisis, tnx to Corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    Umpisa na ang constitutional crisis, tnx to Corona.
    pati na ng kagulohan ng mga rallyistang pro and anti-corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Will senate as impeachment court follow the TRO?
    We will know that on Monday. SC purge should commence.

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    BPI on the stand........

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    magkakaalaman sa lunes kung susundin ng impeachment court ang TRO ng SC

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    Let the constitutional crisis begin.

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    Pera ni fat bastard iyan na pinapatago....

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    tiongson pala si small lady eh......


    The Daily Tribune - Without Fear or Favor


    PSBank’s Tiongson leaked CJ’s peso, dollar accounts—source

    The claimed “small lady” who supplied the prosecution with the the envelope that had copies of the Phililppine Savings Bank (PSBank) documents was none other than the Katipunan branch manager, Annabelle Tiongson, who had leaked this to a second “leak,” one Gigi Sawit who, in turn, gave the copies to blogger and stringer of the South China Morning Post, Raissa Robles, who then passed it on to the prosecutors, a impeachable source told the Tribune yesterday.

    Lead Prosecutor Niel Tupas Jr. and prosecutor-congressman Rey Umali have been caught lying to the Senate impeachment court on their “small lady” story. He said it was an anonymous source who had handed him an envelope in the Senate premises containing the bank accounts of Chief Justice Renato Corona, as CCTV cameras of the Senate, which investigated the claim of Umali, showed no footage at all of anybody approaching the congressman.

    It appears that Tupas is a bank client of the same bank headed by its branch mana-ger, Tiongson.

    Tupas is Tiongson client and is claimed to have an account in that bank that runs to the millions.

    The source said the bank documents were first shown to Tupas who had asked for these.

    “This was the reason the prosecutors, in asking for the subpoena from the senators, did not ask for the branch manager Tiongson, and instead they had (Pascual Garcia), president of the PSBank testify instead on the bank’s yearly ending balance on the accounts of Corona,” the source pointed out.

    “And that’s the reason Tupas and Umali came up with the story of the ‘anonymous’ source of the bank documents giving the congressman an envelope, to protect Tiongson and themselves,” the source added. The prosecutor described his source as “a small lady” who had unremarkable features.

    Tiongson has been summoned

    PSBank president wanted to block, owning all liability and responsibility, while also stating in court that the copies of the bank documents attached to the summons as annexes do not appear to be a facsimile of the original bank documents.

    Presiding Impeachment officer Senate President Juan Ponce-Enrile revealed Thursday that the BSP is now investigating the leakage of the bank documents that the prosecution used as basis to subpoena the bank records of the Chief Justice with the PSBank.

    Enrile said this as he directed to bring to the impeachment court branch manager Tiongson of the PSBank-Katipunan where Corona maintains bank accounts, said to be both peso and dollar accounts.

    ”I must tell you that this court is in possession of information regarding the leakage bank documents and, in fact, the BSP is now conducting an investigation regarding this leakage,” Enrile said.

    “We have to protect the integrity of the bank system. So, bring the manager here to answer questions,” Enrile instructed Garcia.

    Garcia was asked about the opening balance of the alleged 10 accounts of Corona with PSBank but the bank official failed to provide the convincing answers.

    Shown with bank documents used by the prosecution to request for subpoena on Corona’s bank records, Garcia said the bank documents do not jibe with original documents of Corona’s bank deposits.

    ”This court is in possession of information regarding the manner of this leak, the release of these documents and so you better be candid with us because if you don’t, we will be forced to apply the rules of this court,” Enrile warned.

    Garcia answered: “In all candidness, we have gone through the process of auditing this and we have determined that based on what we have as original documents, those documents floating around do not come from PSBank,” Garcia insisted.

    ”In other words, they are fake documents?,” Enrile asked again.

    ”They are not facsimiles (photo copy) of the original documents that we have. They must be fake,” Garcia replied.

    Senator-judge Jinggoy Estrada asked Garcia if their PSBank branch manager in Katipunan is a small lady.

    ”She’s not little. She’s tall,” Garcia said.

    It is believed that if it is found that an officer of the bank had leaked the documents of a private depositor, she as well as the bank itself can be held liable and sued by the depositor and sanctioned by the Bangkp Sentral ng Pilipinas, which is why Garcia is being made the the bank’s fall guy assuming all responsibility and liability, and the reason the bank, through Garcia, is protecting Tiongson.

    Enrile warned that the prosecution panel could be held liable if the documents they used to back up their request for the issuance of subpoena on bank officials and records of PSBank and Bank of Philippine Islands (BPI), are proven to be fake.

    “The prosecution will have a lot of things to answer for this if indeed they do not jibe with your original documents, how they came into posession with these documents. They say it was given to them anonymously,” Enrile said.

    Garcia disputed before an open court, not only the authenticity of the bank documents presented by the prosecution Wednesday before the Senate impeachment court but also its source.

    In continuing his appearance before the impeachment tribunal, Garcia noted under oath at least mentioned twice that “those documents floating around did not come from PSBank.”

    He further underscored that he did not identify the owner of the foreign deposits when he first appeared before the impeachment court, affirming only the nature of the account during Wednesday’s trial proceedings.

    Presented by Senator Estrada with a copy of the document that can be found attached to the subpoena filed by the prosecution Friday last week where an “$700K” was reflected as alleged initial deposit, Garcia claimed: “We do not know. We have not seen it your honor. But I don’t think it came from our bank,” he said.

    Enrile asked if Garcia was saying the documents were fake.

    “I’m not saying that your honor. I can say that offhand, there are differences,” the witness said referring to the entries and format of the document which was produced in a photocopy, adding the need to compare the said “exhibit” of the prosecution with the “original” bank documents.

    Garcia said that before he came out testify, they took it upon themselves to conduct reviews of the bank documents.

    “Insofar as the documents floating around, it did not come from the bank,” he said.

    Where will it come from then?” asked the presiding officer.

    “I have no idea. But if you will compare it with our bank documents, you can see differences. These documents, we cannot comment (on them) on because we have not seen them,” he said.

    Enrile ordered the witness to produce the original copy for the court to use in examining and basis for comparison, adding that whoever produced the document will face appropriate sanctions.

    Initially, Estrada pried into the possibility of the bank insiders themselves as the source of the document that came into possession of the prosecution panel, Garcia immediately dismissed such insinuation.

    “What’s your definition of a short lady,” Estrada asked the bank executive.

    “I can’t say the definition of a short lady but I can tell you that she’s tall,” Garcia said, referring to the bank’s Katipunan branch manager Annabel Tiongson.

    The bank executive maintained that their bank or any of their employees would not dare “leak” any document, especially those pertaining to foreign deposits knowing full well the criminal liability under the existing laws.

    Senator-judges Franklin Drilon, Francis Pangilinan and Alan Peter Cayetano took turns in sqeezing blood, so to speak, from Garcia into admitting the existence of Corona’s purported dollar accounts but the bank executive was compelled to tell the court that he did not specifically testified the owner of the five accounts as that of the chief magistrate, only affirming its existence in their records.

    “You mentioned that there were dollar accounts. Did you ask him (Corona) where the dollars came from,” asked Drilon.

    “I did not mention anything with respect to dollar accounts. The only thing that I have declared to the body your honor is that I cannot present anything on five accounts because they are dollar deposit accounts,” he replied.

    But Drilon was insistent and pressed for any information as to what could have been the source of the dollar deposits, citing the bank industry’s policy of “know your client” rule.

    “I cannot disclose your honor. With due respect anything with respect to dollar accnts bec they’re covered by FCDA (Foreign Currency Deposits Act) law. We did not present anything about the dollar account,” Garcia reminded the senator-judge.

    The other senator-judges also attempted to secure answer from the witness but to no avail, pointing out that any response that will come from him would be in violation of the law.

    Unless, he said, the Supreme Court will issue a decision on the petition they filed, that’s the only time he will submit to the wishes of the senator-judges.

    “My appreciation is if there is any exemption to is, it is the SC will rule,” he said.

    With Angie M. Rosales

Impeachment against CJ Corona..