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  1. Join Date
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    I was just waiting for somebody to post the story about the hazing victim who died recently and watching the cctv footages inside the condo were just terrifying. I am a bit disturbed as my son is staying at One Archer but in a different wing but still the reality about fraternity is entirely incomprehensible to me. I finished 2 degrees in 3 different universities yet I never got invited by any group. What are they looking for in a frat member?

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    Yung mga bata palang na may sabi na sa school at kaya dalhin ang sarili, for 'future' references pag tanda. Or un mga naive na walang alam na naghahanap ng masasamahan, dagdag sa numbers at bata heheh.

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    i was invited before but i politely turned it down. di naman nagalit or anything. we're still all friends till now.

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    they always say makakatulong daw ang fraternity sa career but i doubt those college kids are thinking long term

    one major factor is "protection"... kailangan may resbak kasi madami war freak sa college

    another motivator is the coolness factor

    fratboys are cool and get lots of chicks kaya madami gusto sumali sa mga frat

    so the motives in joining frats are actually quite primitive --- violence and ***

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    i have friends that joined tau gamma and aquila legis. i keep telling them they're idiots for joining. anyone who would willingly let themselves get hurt just for the sake of their so called "brotherhood" is an idiot. ang tunay na kaibigan di ka iiwanan at di kelangan ng hazing hazing para tulungan ka. yan mga frat frat na yan tutulungan ka lang nan pag alam nila lamang sila pero pag lugi kayo good luck na lang sa iyo. dami ko barkada sumali sa mga frat na yan and guess what after you graduate wala din maitulong sa kanila, sa away ganon din kanya kanyang takbo pag argabyado na sila.

    in my opinion those who joins fraternities lack self respect, self confidence and losers in life so they join frats to be in the "in crowd". yung mga klase ng tao na kahit ano gawin nila loser sila so they join a fraternity kasi yon na lang ang paraan nila para mapansin ng mga taga school nila.
    Last edited by foresterx; July 7th, 2014 at 03:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    in my opinion those who joins fraternities lack self respect, self confidence and losers in life so they join frats to be in the "in crowd". yung mga klase ng tao na kahit ano gawin nila loser sila so they join a fraternity kasi yon na lang ang paraan nila para mapansin ng mga taga school nila.
    Ang frat namin ay hindi kailangan magpakilala ka na ikaw isang member. Kilala ang frat namin pero hindi pwedeng magpakilala na isa kang fratman namin. Hindi lahat nang frat ay ganun.

    Sila Marcos at Ninoy ay LOSER.

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    karamihan ng frat ay mga nagaaral ng law
    natatawa nga ako bakit hrm eh magpa frat
    tsk tsk nasayang tuloy buhay nya
    karamihan dyan eh napipilitan sumali dahil tutulungan sila
    na maipasa ang bar nila.
    karamihan ng nayayaya dyan yung mahlig sa barkada
    at mahina sa school.

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    kaya most if not all the time, victims na namatay sa hazing don't get that much sympathy from people who use their brains and people with common sense

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    hindi lahat nang frat masama ang influence at hindi lahat nang frat ay gumagawa nang hazing.

    Our frat ay walang hazing but mahihirapan ka talaga sa utos at papagudin ka para sumunod pero walang sakitan, sa amin kailangan ma-achieved mo ang grade point average na pinatutupad namin.

    Tulungan sa pag-aaral ang pinaiiral namin, may savings kami para matulungan ang mga member na kapos sa pera dahil hindi na kaya ang gastos sa pag aaral. Lahat nang alumni ay may share para matuloy yun.

    May frat na maayos ang pamamalakad may frat naman na hindi kaya kailangan alamin din kung maayos ang frat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699 View Post
    hindi lahat nang frat masama ang influence at hindi lahat nang frat ay gumagawa nang hazing.

    Our frat ay walang hazing but mahihirapan ka talaga sa utos at papagudin ka para sumunod pero walang sakitan, sa amin kailangan ma-achieved mo ang grade point average na pinatutupad namin.

    Tulungan sa pag-aaral ang pinaiiral namin, may savings kami para matulungan ang mga member na kapos sa pera dahil hindi na kaya ang gastos sa pag aaral. Lahat nang alumni ay may share para matuloy yun.

    May frat na maayos ang pamamalakad may frat naman na hindi kaya kailangan alamin din kung maayos ang frat.
    meron din pala ganyan mga frat dito kala ko sa ibang bansa lang. alam ko kasi halos lahat ng frat dito physical ang hazing. anyway yung mga ganyan klase ng frat i could understand why someone wants to join. sa states kasi madami ganyan frat kaya accredited ng mga universities nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    meron din pala ganyan mga frat dito kala ko sa ibang bansa lang. alam ko kasi halos lahat ng frat dito physical ang hazing. anyway yung mga ganyan klase ng frat i could understand why someone wants to join. sa states kasi madami ganyan frat kaya accredited ng mga universities nila.
    hindi lang naman filipino phenomenon iyang hazing bro. actually mas worse pa nga iyong sa 'tate kasi they put more imagination into it

    The Top 10 Worst College Hazing Rituals

    ang totoo hindi lang sa high school nag-start iyan frat activities. ang lakas dati ng recruitment ng sa upper levels of the grade school dept in my school before. i remember i was being recruited or pinapasaringan na ko ng mga batchmates ko ng grade 6 ako. they were into enticing impressionable young kids to join them and increase their ranks because it's the cool thing to do daw

    the funny thing is when i transferred institutions for high school, basically walang presence ang mga frat. iyon nga lang mas rabid naman ang school loyalty so parang iyon ang nag-replace siguro sa frat mentality
    Last edited by baludoy; July 7th, 2014 at 07:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foresterx View Post
    meron din pala ganyan mga frat dito kala ko sa ibang bansa lang. alam ko kasi halos lahat ng frat dito physical ang hazing. anyway yung mga ganyan klase ng frat i could understand why someone wants to join. sa states kasi madami ganyan frat kaya accredited ng mga universities nila.
    May brothers din kasi kami na mga pari/imam/ pastor na member nang frat namin kaya ibang iba ang culture namin sa ibang frat.

    Mga appointed member sila, mga spiritual adviser kasama yan sa aming doctrina regardless of religion. Isa lang ang Grand Master namin si GOD.

    Hindi kami nagrerecruit nang sapilitan. We call it invites kasama na dun ang pagpapaliwanag kung ano ano ang kanilang responsibility bilang isang member via social, spiritual and pansariling responsibility sa family.

    First stage : Interview ( Dapat maganda ang pananaw nila sa frat, hindi ang away dahil ni isa sa amin hindi pwedeng ipagsabi na member sila kung malaman na ipinagsabi tanggal kaagad ) susunod IQ and EQ test ( mataas ang passing grade namin kailangan nasa 90% ang makuha mong grade )
    Second Satge : Endurance and Physical Test ( may trainings na pinagagawa katulad nang rigid exercises --- para malaman kung gaano sila kapursigido na sumali --- dito madami ang umaayaw )
    Last Stage : Follow the Leader ( a good leader kailangan munang maging isang good follower ) dito madaming inuutos na hindi naman sila mapapahiya sa kapwa nila katulad nang sukating ang track and field oval sa pamamagitan nang ruler nang paikot sa sikat nang araw.

    Walang sakitan sa amin... Kung member kana may monthly contribution kami para sa mga kapos palad naming member katulad nang pagmay nagkasakit, hindi na kayang pag aralin nang magulang pero magaling ang utak, social activities nang simbahan or civic groups.

    Madami pa at pinakamaganda sa amin ay pagwala kang makuhang trabaho ang mga alumni namin na mayayaman at may mga negosyo kadalasan dun nakakapasok nang trabaho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699 View Post
    May brothers din kasi kami na mga pari/imam/ pastor na member nang frat namin kaya ibang iba ang culture namin sa ibang frat.

    Mga appointed member sila, mga spiritual adviser kasama yan sa aming doctrina regardless of religion. Isa lang ang Grand Master namin si GOD.

    Hindi kami nagrerecruit nang sapilitan. We call it invites kasama na dun ang pagpapaliwanag kung ano ano ang kanilang responsibility bilang isang member via social, spiritual and pansariling responsibility sa family.

    First stage : Interview ( Dapat maganda ang pananaw nila sa frat, hindi ang away dahil ni isa sa amin hindi pwedeng ipagsabi na member sila kung malaman na ipinagsabi tanggal kaagad ) susunod IQ and EQ test ( mataas ang passing grade namin kailangan nasa 90% ang makuha mong grade )
    Second Satge : Endurance and Physical Test ( may trainings na pinagagawa katulad nang rigid exercises --- para malaman kung gaano sila kapursigido na sumali --- dito madami ang umaayaw )
    Last Stage : Follow the Leader ( a good leader kailangan munang maging isang good follower ) dito madaming inuutos na hindi naman sila mapapahiya sa kapwa nila katulad nang sukating ang track and field oval sa pamamagitan nang ruler nang paikot sa sikat nang araw.

    Walang sakitan sa amin... Kung member kana may monthly contribution kami para sa mga kapos palad naming member katulad nang pagmay nagkasakit, hindi na kayang pag aralin nang magulang pero magaling ang utak, social activities nang simbahan or civic groups.

    Madami pa at pinakamaganda sa amin ay pagwala kang makuhang trabaho ang mga alumni namin na mayayaman at may mga negosyo kadalasan dun nakakapasok nang trabaho.
    K of C ba yan sir?

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    ^ I agree with you badluk. I am sure not all fraternities have bad reputation the fact the reason they are not in the news. Media loves sensationalized and crime stories kaya pabalik-balik un pangalan sa palaging sabit sa gulo. Dapat hindi frat ang tawag sa kanila kundi kulto parang sputnik, sige2, batang city jail, etc.

    Thanks for all the feedbacks. Medyo naka hinga rin knowing my son is not the type who craves attention from the outside. Palaging sumasama sa amin pag weekends kasi libre daw. Pag sa bahay naman, basta may Dota at LOL, ayos na. I think parents too may be responsible when such things happen because they did not give their kids enough attention (and probably love).

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    Definitely NO. Kalokohan yang hazing na yan or the "psychological test" daw.

    Sagot ko lang sa kaibigan kong noon eh... "Sige sa isang kundisyon, ako naman gugulpi sa inyo after nyo akong ma gulpi."

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    Fratman (greek letter, UP Diliman) here and please do not generalize.

    I joined my present fraternity for the ideals it embodied.

    Likewise, maganda din ang connections.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Fratman (greek letter, UP Diliman) here and please do not generalize.

    I joined my present fraternity for the ideals it embodied.

    Likewise, maganda din ang connections.

    Bro, I believe somebody made the stereotype comment but not me. No offense meant but I am just trying to understand the rationale behind joining a frat so I can provide my son the proper perspective should he decide to join one someday. That being said, can you share your reasons for becoming a frat member and the positive results for being one? If I am convinced, I might even encourage my son to join so he can outgrow his love for online games!

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    man has a tendency to form groups

    i think it's called tribalism

    it's an evolved response to the threat of intergroup violence that was common in ancient human environments (still common today actually)
    Last edited by uls; July 7th, 2014 at 06:27 PM. Reason: prehistoric to ancient. i like ancient. ancient sounds better. ok?!!

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    Back when I was in school, my cousin asked me for advice as it seems that he was being recruited by a frat. I jokingly told him that I'd spit and pee on his grave if ever he died from hazing or in one of the inevitable gang riots.

    He thankfully declined the offer and he's now an accomplished surgeon working abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Bro, I believe somebody made the stereotype comment but not me. No offense meant but I am just trying to understand the rationale behind joining a frat so I can provide my son the proper perspective should he decide to join one someday. That being said, can you share your reasons for becoming a frat member and the positive results for being one? If I am convinced, I might even encourage my son to join so he can outgrow his love for online games!

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    Check the history, the achievements, the alumni, and the present involvement of its members in university/school activities


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