50% prefer Noynoy in vote-rich Luzon areas: SWS survey

[explorer]

[SIZE="4"]50% prefer Noynoy in vote-rich Luzon areas: SWS survey[/SIZE]

[LeOxe]

that's good news for noynoy, bad to the other would be presidentiables.

[tidus1203]

Bandwagon effect and sympathy effect. Ingat lang si Noynoy sa Hacienda Luisita dahil pwede yang gawing scandal by other aspiring candidates against him and destroy his image.

[CVT]

Hhhmmmm, we will see as we near election day....

8601:matrix:

[wowiesy]

Bandwagon effect and sympathy effect. Ingat lang si Noynoy sa Hacienda Luisita dahil pwede yang gawing scandal by other aspiring candidates against him and destroy his image.

nag press release na na maaari ay bitawan na lang nila yung hacienda... now na malaki na lugi nila .. bibitawan nila... sino pa bang cojuangco ang nasa congress ngayon? I remember na sa time ni Tita Cory, her cousin (yata) was in congress (Peping Cojuangco)... I suppose yung mga kamag anak nga ni Tita Cory yung naglatag ng option ng Stock Distribution Option sa Land Reform...

Kung sakaling ituloy ng Aquino / Cojuangco families na bitawan ang Haciena Lusita.. interesting to see how will the partylists / left move in reaction to this... on one hand, it was Cory who gave them more teeth kaya ngayon ay nasa congress na sila through the partylist system, but on the other hand, Hacienda Luisita is too good an issue to let go... may advantage din ang grupo nila na laging may issue na gaya ng Hacienda Luisita para lagi silang may pagkakataon na makapagbigay ng statement (at magpapogi) sa media... may issue to showcase that mas maganda ang kanilang isinusulong..

[boybi]

I wonder what will happen to the land inside the Hacienda afterwards. Sigurado ibebenta din yan ng mga makakakuha. Yun ngang mga beneficiaries ng Agrarian Reform, pinagbebenta din nila mga lots na na-acquire nila.

[niky]

I wonder what will happen to the land inside the Hacienda afterwards. Sigurado ibebenta din yan ng mga makakakuha. Yun ngang mga beneficiaries ng Agrarian Reform, pinagbebenta din nila mga lots na na-acquire nila.

That's the tragedy of land reform... and why it really doesn't work to just give it out... you have to make them work for it.

I still can't wrap my head around "Noynoy for President"... it's all completely sentimental crap. I mean, Ninoy may have been a great statesman, but Noynoy is not Ninoy... and, as far as I can tell, has not yet made a name for himself in politics, otherwise.

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So... we're going from actors, to Nora Aunor poster-girls (Gloria) to... National Hero look-a-likes? No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

No offense to Noynoy, but if I were him, I'd simply throw my support behind a good candidate and use my newfound popularity to support a presidentiable with more experience and ability... because when questions about Luisita and his actual ability arise, his campaign may take a turn for the worse.

[KERSMcRae]

[SIZE=4]50% prefer Noynoy in vote-rich Luzon areas: SWS survey[/SIZE]

Finally, "C5*Taga" was smoked by "Yellow Ranger" in survey/!

[oliver1013]

I think Noynoy fever is not really based on Noynoy being great and all that...Its the lack of choices that has given Noynoy all these support he's enjoying..I mean look at the other choices..

Its like choosing a mode of transportation to go to Ilocos your choices are Cherry QQ, an old horse, a bicycle, a pedicab, a skateboard, or walk..

the lesserest evil nga daw eh

[niky]

I think Noynoy fever is not really based on Noynoy being great and all that...Its the lack of choices that has given Noynoy all these support he's enjoying..I mean look at the other choices..

Its like choosing a mode of transportation to go to Ilocos your choices are Cherry QQ, an old horse, a bicycle, a pedicab, a skateboard, or walk..

the lesserest evil nga daw eh

Yung Chery QQ si Noynoy, via Cojuangcos?

Sino yung pedicab... Mar?


I'd prefer the horse, out of all of those... :hysterical: ...but I'm not averse to walking...

[uls]

I wonder what will happen to the land inside the Hacienda afterwards. Sigurado ibebenta din yan ng mga makakakuha. Yun ngang mga beneficiaries ng Agrarian Reform, pinagbebenta din nila mga lots na na-acquire nila.

short term kasi utak ng mga yan

gusto cash

i bet nawaldas na nila pera nila

[oliver1013]

Yung Chery QQ si Noynoy, via Cojuangcos?

Sino yung pedicab... Mar?


I'd prefer the horse, out of all of those... :hysterical: ...but I'm not averse to walking...

Yung old horse si Erap dude, yung skateboard si Chiz

[explorer]

No offense to Noynoy, but if I were him, I'd simply throw my support behind a good candidate and use my newfound popularity to support a presidentiable with more experience and ability... because when questions about Luisita and his actual ability arise, his campaign may take a turn for the worse.

it doesn't work that way...if nonoy withdraws and tells his supporters to vote for the person he endorses people won't automatically vote that person.

[meledson]

That's the tragedy of land reform... and why it really doesn't work to just give it out... you have to make them work for it.

I still can't wrap my head around "Noynoy for President"... it's all completely sentimental crap. I mean, Ninoy may have been a great statesman, but Noynoy is not Ninoy... and, as far as I can tell, has not yet made a name for himself in politics, otherwise.

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So... we're going from actors, to Nora Aunor poster-girls (Gloria) to... National Hero look-a-likes? No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

No offense to Noynoy, but if I were him, I'd simply throw my support behind a good candidate and use my newfound popularity to support a presidentiable with more experience and ability... because when questions about Luisita and his actual ability arise, his campaign may take a turn for the worse.

Strictly speaking, there are no "farmer benificiaries" in Hacienda Luisita. All those who work the land are daily paid. Suweldo ang tinatanggap nila. not a share of the kita ng lupa.

Sa agrarian reform law. ang mga katiwala o ang mga nagtatanim sa lupa ng iba na tumatanggap ng porciento sa kita ng lupa or inuupa nila ang lupa ay sila ang benificiarires ng agrarian reform law.

Sa luisita. di suweldo sila. Kaya nga mayroon pay slip. nagka issue dito dati dahil ilan piso lang ang suweldo ng empleyado sa farm.

Dati pa nga e libre pabahay, libre tubig, libre kuryente. mayroong sariling ospital. Kung hindi kaya, dinadala pa sa FEU.

Hacienda Luisita is a family corporation ng mga conjunacos. Si tita cory ay anak (or apo) ng may ari. walang say si tita cory sa pamamalakad ng kumpanya. malamang minority stock holder lang sila. laki kasi ng angkan.

So kung si cory ay walang say sa pamamalakad ng kumpanya. Ni noynoy pa kaya?

Malas lang ni noynoy na napunta kay kris ang karisma at galing sa pagsalita ng tatay nila.

[niky]

Strictly speaking, there are no "farmer benificiaries" in Hacienda Luisita. All those who work the land are daily paid. Suweldo ang tinatanggap nila. not a share of the kita ng lupa.

Sa agrarian reform law. ang mga katiwala o ang mga nagtatanim sa lupa ng iba na tumatanggap ng porciento sa kita ng lupa or inuupa nila ang lupa ay sila ang benificiarires ng agrarian reform law.

Sa luisita. di suweldo sila. Kaya nga mayroon pay slip. nagka issue dito dati dahil ilan piso lang ang suweldo ng empleyado sa farm.

Dati pa nga e libre pabahay, libre tubig, libre kuryente. mayroong sariling ospital. Kung hindi kaya, dinadala pa sa FEU.

Hacienda Luisita is a family corporation ng mga conjunacos. Si tita cory ay anak (or apo) ng may ari. walang say si tita cory sa pamamalakad ng kumpanya. malamang minority stock holder lang sila. laki kasi ng angkan.

So kung si cory ay walang say sa pamamalakad ng kumpanya. Ni noynoy pa kaya?

Malas lang ni noynoy na napunta kay kris ang karisma at galing sa pagsalita ng tatay nila.

True... (re: Luisita)... but it's a pigeon they can hang around his neck come election time.

And while Kris got her Dad's speaking ability... I don't think anyone would take her seriously as a candidate.

[Lucius]

Has the hacienda ever been infested? Cos si Kris oo, she got infested with STD

Back to topic, surveys are moved by money. Just a few months ago, Noynoy was a nobody. And then suddenly he's like a superstar now? Who is behind the Megazord kaya of the Yellow Ranger

[KERSMcRae]

Malas lang ni noynoy na napunta kay kris ang karisma at galing sa pagsalita ng tatay nila.

Personally I dont like Kris except.... yung character nya na mangbuking ng anumang bagay or issue sa kanyang programa sa tv, mapa buhok man o pantalon ng kuya nya. In case Noynoy becomes the sucessor of [SIZE=1]pandak[/SIZE], gagawin din kaya niya ito in case lumihis ang pamumuno ni Noynoy?

"Bhoy, uh hu ho ho huh..."

[meledson]

True... (re: Luisita)... but it's a pigeon they can hang around his neck come election time.

And while Kris got her Dad's speaking ability... I don't think anyone would take her seriously as a candidate.

She may win due to popularity not capability.

I hope that she would not consider running.

Right now, Noynoy must address the issue on Luisita. Not all knows the complete details. And KMU is adding more fuel.

BTW, KMU was able to have Phelps Dodge close down at the Luisita Industrial Park. Hindi tama daw ang benefits, pa suweldo, etc. Kawawa naman iyong mga empleyado na may trabaho sana sila. Proud pa rin ang KMU na napasara nila.

This is the church kung saan ako nag sisimba noong kabataan ko. aray. di na pala ako young.

[claRkEnt]

land reform... then pag binigay na sa kanila yung lupa, ganun din gagawin. isasanla para magka-cash and the ibabayad sa Illegal Recruiter. tskl tsk

Luisita afaik is a corporation (albeit a family owned one)... di naman si noynoy lang ang may say dyan eh. bakit yan ang gagawing gauge?

[niky]

She may win due to popularity not capability.

I hope that she would not consider running.

Right now, Noynoy must address the issue on Luisita. Not all knows the complete details. And KMU is adding more fuel.

BTW, KMU was able to have Phelps Dodge close down at the Luisita Industrial Park. Hindi tama daw ang benefits, pa suweldo, etc. Kawawa naman iyong mga empleyado na may trabaho sana sila. Proud pa rin ang KMU na napasara nila.

This is the church kung saan ako nag sisimba noong kabataan ko. aray. di na pala ako young.

Bwisit... may nagogoyo pa ang KMU? I don't understand how they're still in operation, after the thousands of blue collar people left jobless in their wake here in the south...

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Sus... youth is over-rated... Women love older men!