Expensive "PINAS"

[ocanursjr]

Grabe! Ang mahal ng bilihin dito sa atin. Tinalo pa ang presyo ng mayayamang( Developed World ) bansa. To see is to believe. Gasolina, gimik, fastfood, drinks, rice, at iba pa. Kaya pala ang daming nagkalat na pobre sa lansangan.

Pati toilet may bayad! Wow! ugaling mendicant( pulubi ) na pala ang isa sa ugaling pinoy.

Lahat papisopiso...

Sa tagal kong hindi nakauwi, lalong dumami ang mga bastos at mga matapobreng pinoy. Maraming mapansamantalang pinoy, lalo na yung mga big businesses at big family dito. Tama lang na mahirap ang Pilipinas. We deserve to be like this. We never learn from our mistakes!

[Negus]

Me, I love the Philippines with all it's faults..... It needs improving, yes, but kahit saan naman bansa may negative eh. At hindi tama lang na mahirap ang pinas. Bakit ba ang *some pinoys pag makarating lang ng abroad especially "western" countries medyo tumataas ang ere, I'm not saying you're one of them ha. Minsan may situation din na talaga naman nakakainis.

[ocanursjr]

Me, I love the Philippines with all it's faults..... It needs improving, yes, but kahit saan naman bansa may negative eh. At hindi tama lang na mahirap ang pinas. Bakit ba ang *some pinoys pag makarating lang ng abroad especially "western" countries medyo tumataas ang ere, I'm not saying you're one of them ha. Minsan may situation din na talaga naman nakakainis.

Hindi sa tumataas ang ere ng iba. Nakakabigla at nakakalungkot lalo na sa mga mahihirap na pinoy na sinasamantala ng kapwa nila pinoy.

[Altis6453]

Depends on what your concept of "mahal" is.

When I travel, I make it a point to observe certain things like the cost of public transportation, basic utilities, even certain government services.

Sa MRT palang sobrang baba ng fare kaya hindi makapag-upgrade, dagdag ng tren or maintain ng related facilities. At the end of the build-operate-transfer deal with the MRT operator (after about 10 more years), you'll get stuck with severly depreciated and unusable equipment.

I guess what I'm saying is, the prices of public services and utilities here are not reflective of cost as compared with other countries.

If you're just referring to the costs of fuel, hay, marami na talagang isinumpa ang mga kumpanya ng langis dahil mukhang meron talagang panloloko sa presyo ng gas.

[nicolodeon]

Mas maraming bansa na mas mahal ang bilihin sa Pinas. Witnessed myself first hand because of the work I do. Try to visit Zimbabwe. Eating at a simple retaurant there costs millions of their local currency. Marami rin akong nakilala na magpagsamantala in my travels. May mas malala pa sa Pinas. Hindi lang sa Pinas yang "phenomenon" na yan: all over the world. Kahit first world countries eh may mapangsamantala din- mahirap or mayaman.

While I respect your point of view, I don't agree with you that the Philippines - or for any country for that matters - deserves to be poor. If we folllow that "line of thought" then can we say that the US - and Australia for that matter - deserves to be in a recession, and that people in the US deserve their fates because they didn't learn from what happened to the US economy during the Great depression (1930s, during the mid-70s to the verly early 80s)? I don't think so.

[gonzo]

Grabe! Ang mahal ng bilihin dito sa atin. Tinalo pa ang presyo ng mayayamang( Developed World ) bansa. To see is to believe. Gasolina, gimik, fastfood, drinks, rice, at iba pa. Kaya pala ang daming nagkalat na pobre sa lansangan.

Pati toilet may bayad! Wow! ugaling mendicant( pulubi ) na pala ang isa sa ugaling pinoy.

Lahat papisopiso...

Sa tagal kong hindi nakauwi, lalong dumami ang mga bastos at mga matapobreng pinoy. Maraming mapansamantalang pinoy, lalo na yung mga big businesses at big family dito. Tama lang na mahirap ang Pilipinas. We deserve to be like this. We never learn from our mistakes!

Sir I believe you're from Australia na nag balik bayan sa pinas? I cant blame you on your observation you are right. But saying we all pinoy Deserve to be like this (poor) is out of the line.

I will turn the situation the other way around, I am also working outside the Philippines, Im working in Africa. Here we always long kung kailan kami maka uwi sa pinas because dito would you believe it or not mas expensive kaysa pinas. Gimik? you need at least $200 to go to decent clubing, drinks local beer cost $1 imported $3, rice? (thailand rice) 5kg $20, gasoline?.. they sell a bit lower here, fare? you wont try public transport, food? we group of 4 pinoy spend $500/ week to get decent supply in 1 week. but this is Africa and they import almost everything. They are lucky to have oil, here 5% are rich (super rich) the rest of the population is poor... no middle class.

You complain about the piso piso toilet... you are Lucky to have at least decent toilet.. here you will never dare do it in a public toilet.

Im not making an argument with your observation sir its your point of view, Im just bringing out my observation which is the exact opposite from yours because I see other people less fortunate than Pinoys.. you will say... still how lucky we are... and we dont deserve to be poor.. masikap ang pinoy sir! IMHO

[nicolodeon]

Sir I believe you're from Australia na nag balik bayan sa pinas? I cant blame you on your observation you are right. But saying we all pinoy Deserve to be like this (poor) is out of the line.

I will turn the situation the other way around, I am also working outside the Philippines, Im working in Africa. Here we always long kung kailan kami maka uwi sa pinas because dito would you believe it or not mas expensive kaysa pinas. Gimik? you need at least $200 to go to decent clubing, drinks local beer cost $1 imported $3, rice? (thailand rice) 5kg $20, gasoline?.. they sell a bit lower here, fare? you wont try public transport, food? we group of 4 pinoy spend $500/ week to get decent supply in 1 week. but this is Africa and they import almost everything. They are lucky to have oil, here 5% are rich (super rich) the rest of the population is poor... no middle class.

You complain about the piso piso toilet... you are Lucky to have at least decent toilet.. here you will never dare do it in a public toilet.

Im not making an argument with your observation sir its your point of view, Im just bringing out my observation which is the exact opposite from yours because I see other people less fortunate than Pinoys.. you will say... still how lucky we are... and we dont deserve to be poor.. masikap ang pinoy sir! IMHO

Well said.

[badsekktor]

If we compare our country to first world countries, medyo malaki talaga ang difference.... but kung third world country din ang pagkukumparahan, hindi din naman nalalayo ang Pilipinas.

Just like the other poster said, try going to Africa, Papua New Ginuea, East Timor, Sri lanka.. even Indonesia. More or Less, the situation is similar or we might be in better situation compared to those countries.

I've talked to several expats and they've said that our country is not as bad as what others perceive.....

[chua_riwap]

Oca, mukhang matagal ka nang di nagbakasyon sa atin, Mate...... Kelan ka ba huling bumalik sa atin?

Nakakagulat ang mga sinasabi mo. OFW din ako, Mate. Dami ko na'ng napuntahang mga foreign countries sa mga assignments ko. Pero di totoo yung sinasabi mo na mas mahal sa atin.

Pero aminado ako.....yang kuryente, mas mahal na talaga sa atin, compared sa ibang bansa.

[SaberRider]

If you think prices are expensive here wait till you visit Singapore or Tokyo, Japan.

I agree with you that there are some certain products/services that are astronomically priced and are very questionable.

Simple example, dapat nga yung prices ng mga bnew vehicles natin dito mababa na considering na global recession yung nangyayari and majority of automotive companies are in the brink of bankruptcy pero eto parin tayo... a mitsu lancer at P1.3mil? That's US$26,000. Sa US nga nasa $15k ang base model pero yung GT-A natin na P1.3mil pesos nasa same price na siya ng Lancer Ralliart. Same with the Altis, dito ina-assemble sa Pinas pero nasa 1 mil pa rin ang presyo considering these are tagged as "economy" sedans.

[iho250]

Im not making an argument with your observation sir its your point of view, Im just bringing out my observation which is the exact opposite from yours because I see other people less fortunate than Pinoys.. you will say... still how lucky we are... and we dont deserve to be poor.. masikap ang pinoy sir! IMHO

AMEN!!!

[jpdm]

Grabe! Ang mahal ng bilihin dito sa atin. Tinalo pa ang presyo ng mayayamang( Developed World ) bansa. To see is to believe. Gasolina, gimik, fastfood, drinks, rice, at iba pa. Kaya pala ang daming nagkalat na pobre sa lansangan.

Pati toilet may bayad! Wow! ugaling mendicant( pulubi ) na pala ang isa sa ugaling pinoy.

Lahat papisopiso...

Sa tagal kong hindi nakauwi, lalong dumami ang mga bastos at mga matapobreng pinoy. Maraming mapansamantalang pinoy, lalo na yung mga big businesses at big family dito. Tama lang na mahirap ang Pilipinas. We deserve to be like this. We never learn from our mistakes!

Perhaps bro when you went abroad pre-Asian Financial Crisis (1997) pa ang mga presyo. Nagmahal halos lahat after the crisis.

I still remember in 1996, 5 pesos lang ang gas nun. Then, 7t pesos lang ata minimum wage nun.

Yung 6t pesos nun malaki na. pero ngayon ala talaga.


You can buy a cup of rice in a restaurant for 2-5 pesos unlike ngayon.

Sa Lawton, yung cr sa park and ride 5 pesos. pero dumi pa rin Cr. Buti pa yun sa ATC kahit mahal malinis.

Alam ko sa Germany (I saw it in the news)bayad din sila sa public toilet at mahal din.

Gimik, well mura pa din dito. Sa Asian neighbors natin like Singapore at Hongkong SAR medyo may kamahalan. Kahit Bangkok.

Mura pa din dito, pre. In fact, I have interviewed alot of foreign retirees ( Americans, Brits, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese and other Europeans) mura daw dito lalo yung nanirahan sa probinsya (I'd encountered alot of them here in Cavite and in Puerto Galera, Mindoro.

[Memphis Raines]

Tama lang na mahirap ang Pilipinas. We deserve to be like this. We never learn from our mistakes!

Ang sakit naman pakinggan nito
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[moejun2]

i believe the TS should travel more or at least open his eyes. i also don't think we deserve to be poor. reading his post makes me think that he doesn't want to come back to the philippines. in that case then, maybe he shouldn't.

[niwde11]

doest that mean yung mga taong nagbabalak dito manirahan after they retire e nationalistic lang? why some foreigners retire here? i always thought na malaki purchasing power factor nila(foreign currency) kaya dito settle. i am confused now.
it mitght be related to the topic but kala ko tayong mga work dito sa pinas ang me dialogue na umaangal sa presyo.

[bogzki2004i]

Agree with you TS... Mahal na bilihin dito sa Pilipinas dahil mas marami ang can't afford dito at don't ask kung how much ang sweldo in minimum. Tama ka, maraming nagsasamantala dito. Kaya yung mga negosyante lang ang mga yumayaman at samantala si Juan Dela Cruz ay hand to mouth pa rin.

[ocanursjr]

Agree with you TS... Mahal na bilihin dito sa Pilipinas dahil mas marami ang can't afford dito at don't ask kung how much ang sweldo in minimum. Tama ka, maraming nagsasamantala dito. Kaya yung mga negosyante lang ang mga yumayaman at samantala si Juan Dela Cruz ay hand to mouth pa rin.

Thanks * bogzki2004i you've got my spot.

[mact_tors]

i believe the TS should travel more or at least open his eyes. i also don't think we deserve to be poor. reading his post makes me think that he doesn't want to come back to the philippines. in that case then, maybe he shouldn't.

the Philippines DOESN"T deserve mr. oca and the likes of him as well! sino magmamahal sa bansa natin kung hindi tayo din. i am also working out of the country and i am still hoping one day the philippines will get better so all ofws can come home and be with their families.

[vinrem]

Unfair naman ang remarks ni TS, di naman lahat ng bilihin sa pinas ay mahal ah, and sabihin na daming manloloko...jezzz...anong nationality bah ang walang manloloko (chinese, kano, koreans european)??? Yan minsan ang problema sa ibang pinoy, porket nag migrate lng sa ibang bansa, when they return home to visit some of their relatives, parang umiba na ang ugali (naging parang matapobre)...dont know why???

[chua_riwap]

Oca....so sa Downunder ka pala galing.

Ano gamit mo, toilet paper o tubig?

[SIZE="1"](Peace....Mate!)[/SIZE]

Anyways, yung tinuran mo, na "Tama lang na mahirap ang Pilipinas. We deserve to be like this. We never learn from our mistakes!".... eh foul naman yan. Hwag ka namang ganyan.