Doble, pinagloloko mo ba kami?

[sea.piper]

^^^ Yup, wala namang kinalaman ang SAP sa wiretapping. SAP is a customizable enterprise resource planning software meant to integrate a company's operations seamlessly, i.e. warehousing, distribution, supply chain, accounting, etc.

Kalokohan din na walang wiretapping capability ang ISAFP, as what the AFP would want us to believe. Eh di ano pa silbi nila?? Si Lacson na mismo ang umamin na the PNP, through PAOCTF, bought 2 wireless communication intervention devices from Germany. It's highly doubtful that ISAFP couldn't procure the same equipment, eh since its badly needed in intel operations. After all, the ISAFP is the country's premier intelligence-gathering agency.

Maybe the title of this thread should be: "AFP, pinagloloko nyo ba kami???"

Tama ka sir..taya ko lahat nang sweldo ko

[VtEC]

hmmm, applied na dyan ang long (wrong arm) arm of the law.

gma/generals/ et al to Doble: deny or be denied forever???

[torque2006]

you know what, the issue resurfaced because a lot of "presidential hopefuls" want media attention. i doubt if there would be any resolution on this case.

as i've always asked: is this in aid of legislation ba kamo?

OT: buti nga yung wowowee hearing ni Mar "Mr. Palengke" Roxas cancelled na. But the damage has been done. Kala ko pa naman matino si mar roxas.

[docpete]

ang pagka alam ko yong pnp merong wiretapping capability,, bili ni Lacson yon nong chief siya ng pnp...yon yong pinang wiretap niya sa ka batch niyang si col matillano..kaya nagkaway away yong dalawa..nawala narin yon nong na deposed si Erap.. na trace nilang nasa posession ni Lacson.. pero according to Matillano ayaw ibalik. .

[chua_riwap]

He-he! 2 na manloloko rito sa Tsikot. Sa isang thread, si Aga Muhlach ang manloloko, ngayon naman si Doble.

Panoorin na lang natin at huwag na nating pansinin yang circus sa Senado. Abangan natin yung verdict sa Erap's Case sa Wednesday. Tingnan natin kung ano mangyayari, kung "guilty" or "acquitted" si Erap.

[Monseratto]

Senators question Doble's credibility, Lacson fights back

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=91515

"This man is not telling the truth."

This was the description made by Sen. Richard Gordon of former military intelligence agent T/Sgt. Vidal Doble after senators grilled the latter for hours during a Senate hearing on the "Hello, Garci" controversy Friday.

In an interview on ABS-CBN News Channel, Gordon pointed out that Doble’s answers to his and his colleagues’ questions were "selective" and "evasive." He also noted the lapses in his testimonies, adding that these were not based on "his own personal experience."

The senator cited Doble’s contradicting statements during the hearings at the House of Representatives and the Court of Appeals in 2005 as well as at Friday’s inquiry.

He said that during the 2005 hearing at the lower chamber of Congress the former military intelligence agent had maintained that he was not a "wiretapper" but changed his statement during an inquiry at the upper chamber on Friday.

During the hearing, Sen. Joker Arroyo asked fellow lawmaker, Sen. Pia Cayetano, to read the transcript of Doble’s testimony during the joint committee hearings of the House of Representatives on the wiretapping controversy.

Arroyo recalled Doble's testimony denying that he was a "wiretapper."


Gordon also noted Doble’s statement during a writ of habeas corpus hearing in 2005 at the Court of Appeals. The habeas corpus petition was filed by Doble's rumored girlfriend Marietta Santos.

The former intelligence agent's family was staying at the compound of the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (ISAFP) at the time of the two hearings.

Doble denied that ISAFP was holding him against his will, prompting the appellate court to dismiss the petition.

During the CA hearing, Doble also said he voluntarily went under the custody of ISAFP because he was afraid that Samuel Ong, former deputy director of the National Bureau of Investigation, might hurt him and his family.

Ong was the one who claimed he has in his possession the "mother of all tapes" and who was supposed to corroborate Doble's revelation about the alleged Hello, Garci recordings.

"I asked him why were you afraid of Sammy Ong, could it be that Sammy Ong gave you P2 million and at that time you sided with the administration or whoever it was your siding with? He said, ‘Nagugulahan ang isip ko’ (I’m confused)," Gordon said.

Gordon said Doble claimed that the money came from Ong "when in reality it came from Laarni Enriquez." Enriquez is romantically linked to former president Joseph Estrada.

Gordon added: "It is very hard for me to believe Doble because he accepted P2 million."

Enrile also raised Doble's statements before the CA during the Senate inquiry. While flipping the pages of the hearing's transcript, Enrile murmured, "Lalabas ang katotohanan dito (The truth will come out here)."

In his defense, Doble said that even though he was testifying under oath in separate hearings of the CA and the House, he was forced to lie for fear of his family's safety.

Doble added that he was under duress during the time he made the separate testimonies.

Gordon also accused Sen. Panfilo Lacson of attempting to "coach" the witness. "There was a clear attempt to lead the witness or for that matter to coach the witness. That is not right. The Senate's dignity and mandate to seek the truth through inquiry in aid of legislation must be protected at all times."

The "Hello, Garci" wiretapped conversations surfaced in 2005. The tapes allegedly showed the President conspiring with former election commissioner Virgilio Garcillano to rig the 2004 elections.

The issue was the worst controversy to hit the Arroyo administration. Two impeachment complaints had been filed against her arising from the controversy but both had been dismissed.

The uproar it caused also pushed the President to publicly apologize for calling an election commissioner during the counting of the votes in 2004 but she denied manipulating the election results.

Lacson defends Doble

Lacson, whose privilege speech on the controversy led to the reopening of the investigation on the scandal, accused pro-administration senators, particulary Gordon, Arroyo and Enrile, of "bullying" the witness.

"You know some administration senators tried but failed to disrupt the proceedings; not only disrupt but they tried to bully the witness- Gordon, Enrile, Arroyo - they took turns in battering the witness. And we shouldn't do that because this is our resource person." he said in a separate ANC interview.

On the CA hearing, Lacson pointed out that it would be impossible for Doble to go against ISAFP while under the agency's custody, adding that Doble was under duress and intimidation at the height of the issue.

Lacson also said it was possible that Doble lied during the hearing at the House of Representatives because he was heavily escorted.

He said the P2 million, meanwhile, was handed to Doble two months after he released the tapes, thus, he maintained, it was not considered a bribery.

"But you know he could have denied it but he admitted receiving the P2 million. That should [strengthen] his credibility.... Receiving the money is bad for Doble, but admitting it, that would take a lot of courage," he added.

[shadow]

eh bakit naman sasabihin ngayon ng mga maka admin na nagsisinungaling si doble while dati na ang tinitira niya is mga opposition eh walang umiimik sa mga admin congressmen/senators?

[VtEC]

Lilipas din yang palabas na yan.ang tunay na naglolokohan dyan e yong mga tao sa gobyerno.

[kinyo]

Ha? Bakit, kumakain ba sa McDo si Doble?

[jeffrocks]

Lacson's allegations or so called witnesses laging sablay,from maunay,vicky toh,jose pidal,up to U.S. spy scandal etc,he is very noisy for nothing,ignoranteng senador.sino-sino ba bumoto nito?ginagatasan lang nila ang pobreng erap