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    walang plastik na sagot ha, pag ikaw naging gov't officials ang pwedeng mag nakaw, would you do it? I mean hinde ka mahuhuli and all.

    'cos ang daming batikos sa mga corrupt officials natin pero if we are in the same situation, sigurado ka ba na hinde ka magiging corrupt?

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    I don't want to be corrupt. Given that I can be able to support my family and sustain the present lifestyle that I have. Di ko masisikmura.

    I fear God and I do have my morals.

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    Definitely not. First of all, believe it or not eh hindi ako magaling magsinungaling. Second is Paranoia

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    That is a good question bro.

    Our industry has a real bad reputation for corruption. A well-known big company was shutdown mainly because of this disturbing underlying issue.

    I have many huge opportunities to get filthy rich quickly without them knowing it. I am, however, proud to say that I did not steal from the companies I worked with before and until now. By the way, I am in charge of Engineering and Operations.

    The same is true with my wife who is in charge of Logistics and Purchasing, among her other functions.

    Yes, we get perks as Managers, such as car plan/loan, stock incentives, performance bonus, but those are all above board.

    When approached by Suppliers for "gifts",- we tell them to comprehend this as discount in the price quotation. In this way, there is no string attachment with the supplier, while getting the maximum benefit for the company. Free meal with the supplier? Yes. (And I encourage this with my engineers). But nothing hanky panky.

    I agree that government service is a different environment. But I guess, if you have the moral ground and the position, you can still be straight.

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    if i was elected into office -- meaning nag campaign ako -- which means there are people who helped me during the campaign (in cash or kind) -- then i owe them favors

    when they ask me for favors naman, i will not deny them

    they scratch my back, i scratch theirs

    that's the way it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    walang plastik na sagot ha, pag ikaw naging gov't officials ang pwedeng mag nakaw, would you do it? I mean hinde ka mahuhuli and all.

    'cos ang daming batikos sa mga corrupt officials natin pero if we are in the same situation, sigurado ka ba na hinde ka magiging corrupt?

    Personally, I do not have the "want" for government office.

    Back when I was younger, I really didn't see government work for me even with the potential of big money flowing into my pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    walang plastik na sagot ha, pag ikaw naging gov't officials ang pwedeng mag nakaw, would you do it? I mean hinde ka mahuhuli and all.

    'cos ang daming batikos sa mga corrupt officials natin pero if we are in the same situation, sigurado ka ba na hinde ka magiging corrupt?
    Never kong pinangarap mag trabaho/serve sa Gobyerno. Matino ka nga pero halos lahat naman ng kasama mo either corrupt or walang kwenta.

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    i won't steal money from the government, what i'll do instead is accept money from businessman to give them "favors" like what other gov't. officials do. pero depends on what kind of "favor" they'll ask, if it won't hurt anybody then why not. i know one senator who did a favor for a businessman that gave him 2M just to endorse their product things like that won't hurt anyone so that's an easy 2M.

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    wont do the under the table job / steal money from the kaban ng bayan ,



    but if some businessman offer me a money in exchange of favor , well going to accept it.. but that will depend on "favor"

    and of course if someone i owned i have to return favor too..

    as what uls said.. kamutin mo likod ko kakamutin ko likod mo


    doing under the table job and returning favor is big different

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    personally, i won't take away people's money. BUT we can only stay incorruptible on a certain level.

    i think everybody has a price, kahit na gaano pa natin gustong maging malinis. minsan kahit ayaw mo gawin, mapipilitan ka dahil sa factors that are at stake. our values and morals can be compromised if may maaapektuhan na pamilya, kaibigan, etc. saka hindi lang naman sa government pwedeng i-apply ang corruption. the only difference is its taxpayers money.

    if you don't want to be corrupted in government office, then better stay away from it.

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    if i was elected to be president, i would give cabinet positions to those who helped me during the campaign

    that's one way i could repay them -- put them in positions where there's opportunity to make a lot of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if i was elected to be president, i would give cabinet positions to those who helped me during the campaign

    that's one way i could repay them -- put them in positions where there's opportunity to make a lot of money

    part ng tradisyon na to sa gobyerno heheheh

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    I think it speaks for itself that even though my job is in purchasing, I'm still pretty piss-poor. In fact, poorer than when I started...

    I wouldn't want to be in government, though. Whether or not you actually are corrupt, there will always be the accusation of corruption. And I value my honor more than I value power.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    how sure are you that you won't be a corrupt official if given the opportunity?
    101% sure.

    How so? I've been given the opportunity several times to be in Customs and every time I turned it down. Yung kumuha ng posisyon na yun mayaman na ngayon. Pero inggit ba ako? Nope.

    If I gave in to corruption, I wouldn't be driving a Vios right now but a bullet- proof Lexus instead or a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo.

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    how to partially eliminate corruption in government(in an austrian sort of way):
    -cut taxes(VAT,E-VAT,etc.)
    -make almost everything entirely private(instead of socializing and competition will pave the way)
    -remove tariffs
    -remove subsidies
    -public works are purely private(including roads)
    -government should be treated as a company where only the stakeholders(tax payers) have a say
    -remove price control
    -no bail out policy(let everything that should fail fail including government)
    -no wage control
    -unicameral federal parliament(with less government and bureaucracy)
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    ^^^ Agree.

    The Government should be run like a company. Not as a country club, where every member(citizen) gets to benefit from, even when not participating....

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    Run like Enron Corporation?

    Run like the United Fruit Company?

    Or the East India Company?

    Run like Omni Consumer Products (OCP)? From the Robocop movie.

    it already is running in a similar manner as above

    basically a con

    but like any other con, it should fail

    that's why the american forefathers wrote the 2nd amendment
    Last edited by boybi; February 4th, 2011 at 09:08 PM.

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    i wont be a hypocrite to say na 10000% hindi ako magiging corrupt. ideally, i would not, but ibang kaso talaga kung nasa pwesto na. i could say na 50-50 ang sagot ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    walang plastik na sagot ha, pag ikaw naging gov't officials ang pwedeng mag nakaw, would you do it? I mean hinde ka mahuhuli and all.

    'cos ang daming batikos sa mga corrupt officials natin pero if we are in the same situation, sigurado ka ba na hinde ka magiging corrupt?
    nasa DNA testing yan *shadow

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT
    ^^^ Agree. The Government should be run like a company. Not as a country club, where every member(citizen) gets to benefit from, even when not participating....
    i disagree. even if you run it as a company it will still corrupt people. kaya nga may saying na, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. the more power you have, whether in a government or corporation, the more you'll be tempted to the dark side.

    to get rid of corruption (maybe not totally) all deals and transactions have to be transparent and the details should be reviewable by others.

    on topic:
    if i'm being totally honest with myself, i'm not 100% sure i'll be able to keep my hands clean. and that is the reason i have no plans to work for the government.

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how sure are you that you won't be a corrupt official if given the opportunity?