Bill Outlawing Waiver of Liability for Carparks

[111prez]

Note that the bill outlaws the absolute waiver of liability now written on the terms and conditions of the parking tickets.

If something happens to the car while in the carpark, the carpark operator cannot just wash their hands like what they are doing now.

This bill, if it becomes law, should ensure that these carpark owners/operators do their part in keeping the vehicles of their patrons safe and secure.

In my case, I parked at Robinsons Pioneer some years back and one headlamp washer of the MS was stolen. Talagang naiwan nalang ay butas. Mukhang na pag tripan lang siguro. Vehicle was parked near the entrance and within full view of the guard. I complained to the car park / mall operator. Guess what? Walang nangyari. Hugas kamay sila. Hindi puede yun. Na perwisyo na ako, nagbayad pa ako sa car park at ako pa ang nawalan. Never went back to that place and luckily never had to.

This bill is timely and should be passed.

[dr. d]

but what about mis-deeds that can be successfully accomplished in just a few seconds, simply by twisting the object of their intent?
i mean, even if the guard was just a meters away, perhaps at the rear of the vehicle, the guard might not even notice the act.

laws should be enforceable and should be fair to all concerned.

[111prez]

but what about deeds that can be successfully accomplished in just a few seconds, simply by twisting the object of their intent?
i mean, even if the guard was just a meters away, perhaps at the rear of the vehicle, the guard might not even notice the act.

laws should be enforceable and should be fair to all concerned.

I agree. This is all a matter of evidence already. Whoever is liable should pay. That is the fair resolution.

What the bill addresses is the waiver of liability of these carparks even if it is clearly their fault either due to negligence or fault.

[dr. d]

I agree. This is all a matter of evidence already. Whoever is liable should pay. That is the fair resolution.
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i think this is the crux of the matter.
"who is liable?"
is it the carpark operator and its guard, who are tasked with guarding each and every vehicle in the park?
is it the car manufacturer, who designed that car part as to be very easily remove-able with a simple flick of the wrist?
is it the car owner, who carelessly left his laptop on the car seat, to be ogled at by potential robber?

many years ago,
the object of souvenir collectors' affections, was the windshield wiper!

[uls]

kaya bawat car slot dapat may dedicated cctv para malinaw kung sino may kasalanan

if the carpark owner will be made responsible for damage and/or loss he should do everything to protect his interest

so kailangan niya gumastos para sa additional surveillance equipment and personnel tapos ipapasa niya sa customer ang additional cost

[dr. d]

kaya bawat car slot dapat may dedicated cctv para malinaw kung sino may kasalanan

if the carpark owner will be made responsible for damage and/or loss he should do everything to protect his interest

so kailangan niya gumastos para sa additional surveillance equipment and personnel tapos ipapasa niya sa customer ang additional cost

i can see it now...
"parking fee 400 pesos per first 3 hours."

breakdown:
200 for the park operator.
200 for the individualized guard who will sit beside the car all the time.

[uls]

i can see it now...
"parking fee 400 pesos per first 3 hours."

breakdown:
200 for the park operator.
200 for the individualized guard who will sit beside the car all the time.

yes yan ang gusto ng customer eh

gusto ng customer sagutin ng mall owner pag may nangyari sa kotse niya

so sisiguraduhin ng mall owner wala mangyayari but it comes with high cost

[boybi]

If this law will be passed, dapat covered din mga paid street parking being operated by LGUs. Nagbabayad din naman tayo so dapat wala din silang waiver of liability.

Also, does this mean kapag free ang parking, wala ng liability mga car park operator?

[oj88]

Mixed feelings about this.

If it's valet or a parking facility that requires you to surrender your car keys, you have technically relinquished control of your vehicle. In which case, the valet operator or facility is liable for anything that will happen to the vehicle while it's in their custody or care. This is so because the valet parking is usually blocked off from public access.

If it's just a regular parking facility, no. In this case, you are paying to lease a parking space that may or may not include reasonable, "best effort" security. As a car owner, you bear the burden of proof that the parking facility were intentionally negligent.

[yapoy86]

Note that the bill outlaws the absolute waiver of liability now written on the terms and conditions of the parking tickets.

If something happens to the car while in the carpark, the carpark operator cannot just wash their hands like what they are doing now.

This bill, if it becomes law, should ensure that these carpark owners/operators do their part in keeping the vehicles of their patrons safe and secure.

In my case, I parked at Robinsons Pioneer some years back and one headlamp washer of the MS was stolen. Talagang naiwan nalang ay butas. Mukhang na pag tripan lang siguro. Vehicle was parked near the entrance and within full view of the guard. I complained to the car park / mall operator. Guess what? Walang nangyari. Hugas kamay sila. Hindi puede yun. Na perwisyo na ako, nagbayad pa ako sa car park at ako pa ang nawalan. Never went back to that place and luckily never had to.

This bill is timely and should be passed.

i agree on this bill.. pero lawmakers should also consider the business viability of a parking service... if the rates are too low, then parking operators might use the lots for commercial establishments instead of making a parking facility.. just like how a toll way operator considers the long term business in investing in operating an express way.

correct me if im wrong but commercial establishments like malls have "insurance" for building related accidents, right? say there's a malfunction in an elevator or escalator causing injury to a patron..