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    and why should we be concerned if this happens? crude oil prices would surely skyrocket

    The United States will be ready to launch a missile attack on Iran's nuclear facilities as soon as early this month, perhaps "from 4 a.m. until 4 p.m. on April 6," according to reports in the Russian media on Saturday.

    According to Russian intelligence sources, the reports said, the US has devised a plan to attack several targets in Iran, and an assault could be carried out by launching missiles from fighter jets and warships stationed in the Persian Gulf.

    Russian news agency RIA Novosti quoted a security official as saying, "Russian intelligence has information that the US Armed Forces stationed in the Persian Gulf have nearly completed preparations for a missile strike against Iranian territory."

    The Russian Defense Ministry rejected the claims of an imminent attack as "myths." There was no immediate response from Washington.

    The reports come as the Iranian chief of staff, Hassan Fayrouz Abadi, was quoted on Saturday by Iran's Fars news agency warning leaders of Arab countries that Israel plans to open a "suicidal attack" on its neighbors this summer, to "prevent the withdrawal of the US troops from Iraq and the area."

    "I warn the dear leaders and Muslim brothers in the neighboring countries of the occupied territories that this suicidal attack of the Zionists is threatening them," he said.

    The countries in danger, he said, were "Lebanon and Syria, and later Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia."

    Also on Saturday, Russia urged Britain and Teheran to resolve the dispute over 15 British sailors and marines captured by Iran last week, a local news agency reported.
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    and another reason kaya sasalakayin ng U.S. ang iran kasi nalaman nila na nka acquire ng sate of the art bagong air defense system ang iran from russia w/c is quite deadly.. not nuclear arsenals but can be used this system also for launching nuclear missiles.. nabasa ko lately sa newsweek..
    heto yung video link about tdun sa bagong air defense system from russia.. and also russia has the most powerful air defense system w/c is the TOR-M1 missile and Gauntlet SA-15 as of this era..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YI72CSiexQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLfmNOOBYLE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PBQ8265Xm8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khspfofd21I
    Last edited by 3sgTe; April 1st, 2007 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3sgTe View Post
    and another reason kaya sasalakayin ng U.S. ang iran kasi nalaman nila na nka acquire ng sate of the art bagong air defense system ang iran from russia w/c is quite deadly.. not nuclear arsenals but can be used this system also for launching nuclear missiles.. nabasa ko lately sa newsweek..
    heto yung video link about tdun sa bagong air defense system from russia.. and also russia has the most powerful air defense system w/c is the TOR-M1 missile and Gauntlet SA-15 as of this era..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YI72CSiexQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLfmNOOBYLE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PBQ8265Xm8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khspfofd21I
    I thought the SA-15/TOR-M1 is designed to counter low-flying to mid-altitude attack aircraft. Mid-altitude extends to around 18000 ft. The SA-15 is useless against aircraft flying higher. Jury's still out on whether it can counter US cruise missiles or other battlefield missiles the way the US Patriot can. I'm curious myself to see how effective this Russian air defense system will be.

    A nuclear warhead will need at least a Scud-sized missile for delivery. The SA-15 is way too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    I thought the SA-15/TOR-M1 is designed to counter low-flying to mid-altitude attack aircraft. Mid-altitude extends to around 18000 ft. The SA-15 is useless against aircraft flying higher. Jury's still out on whether it can counter US cruise missiles or other battlefield missiles the way the US Patriot can. I'm curious myself to see how effective this Russian air defense system will be.

    A nuclear warhead will need at least a Scud-sized missile for delivery. The SA-15 is way too small.
    atleast gawin nilang nuclear warhead ang bawa't isang tor missile.. hehe.. pero sana wag.. mukhang madugo na naman to... mahal na araw pa.. ako din curious regarding russian armaments used by iran and their performance in a war.. mukhang hindi pipichugin ang iran

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    If this is true, you'd think China and other nations would be sending warships to deter the US from doing so since the resulting war zone will threaten their oil supply lines. Good Friday... That's April 6. 6 days away..... Start the countdown.

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    takot pala us of a dito?




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    i already paid $4.00/gal yesterday, so i say bring it on. i have a bicycle just in case.......

    i don't think the US can afford to have three wars going on at the same time...the US military is already stretched thin due to it's nation-building and counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the prospect of waging a third war against Iran will bring severe negative effects in the US military.

    first, a third war will increase the demand for use of the military outside our own soil. so instead of having to rotate the units in Afghanistan and Iraq, the military would have Iran as part of their rotation. increased and more frequent rotational deployments reduce the number of units ready at home for contingencies thay may happen quickly. think about what happened during the hurricane katrina. we were short handed, because most of our units were either serving in Afghanistan or in Iraq. some are stationed in other countries, but the bulk of it is in Afghanistan and Iraq. the result was chaos in New Orleans.

    a third war would also lead to a more lenghty deployment of the military units, which means that our soldiers will be taken away from home and away from their love ones (i'm glad i'm out). this may reduce morale if sustained over the long term. this is probably the reason the recruitment rate is steadily dropping in the last few years. heck, why would i want to join if i know they're going to sacrifice me after my training? knowing the life expectancy of a US soldier in Iraq is only a few months, why bother joining the military? the cost-benefit is not worth taking a risk for in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3sgTe View Post
    atleast gawin nilang nuclear warhead ang bawa't isang tor missile.. hehe.. pero sana wag.. mukhang madugo na naman to... mahal na araw pa.. ako din curious regarding russian armaments used by iran and their performance in a war.. mukhang hindi pipichugin ang iran
    Ummmmm. Besides being too small for nuclear warheads, those missiles also have short range. Common sense dictates the missiles be stationed far away from the reach of US forces inside iraq. If that's the case even assuming each SA-15 has a nuclear warhead, if Iran launches those missiles, they'll still land inside Iran not too far away from where they were launched.

    But at least on paper, the TOR-M1 looks formidable on paper versus tactical aircraft. But then, so did a lot of Iraq's SAM air-defense systems.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 1st, 2007 at 11:45 AM.

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    it's not going to happen. i don't think US can afford another war.

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    lalo na sa mga to...










    e di tataas na presyo ng langis????? db jun?? naku po!

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    oh...naalala ko pala, the $1+ billion military budget may not be approved (there is a very strong possibility)......so saan kukuha ang US military ng pera para sa third war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbx986 View Post
    it's not going to happen. i don't think US can afford another war.
    Hope not. Bush should be impeached if he starts being trigger happy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer View Post
    takot pala us of a dito?





    not actually takot.. medyo insecure lang sila.. hehehe! kasi sobrang daming ganito ang na acquire ng iran from russia.. bka kasi kung saan saan ikalat ng iran to shut down surveillance units ng us.. nabubuking na kc ang iran about their nuclear scuds.. hehehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3sgTe View Post
    lalo na sa mga to...










    e di tataas na presyo ng langis????? db jun?? naku po!
    That's more like it. If I was Israel and US forces in Iraq, I would really be worried.... I'd be much more worried than just oil prices going up if Iran attains the capability to fit them with nuclear warheads. It's like giving a kid a loaded handgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    Hope not. Bush should be impeached if he starts being trigger happy again.
    He's a lameduck. He won't be able to do much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    Hope not. Bush should be impeached if he starts being trigger happy again.
    if he goes to war without the approval of the congress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    if he goes to war without the approval of the congress....
    I doubt it. I can't even imagine the backlash on the remaining Republicans if he does. Plus like you said, not enough funds or manpower to prosecute three separate wars unless the US goes on a full war-footing and reinstitute the draft. That's definitely not going to happen unless events in the world turn much for the worse.

    Add: If it does come down to military action, the EU and/or UN will have to get involved. Again, it'll take a lot before that happens.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; April 1st, 2007 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    think about what happened during the hurricane katrina. we were short handed, because most of our units were either serving in Afghanistan or in Iraq. some are stationed in other countries, but the bulk of it is in Afghanistan and Iraq. the result was chaos in New Orleans.
    The Louisiana Army Guard was there. They just weren't called out in time due to stupidity from both state and federal governments.

    heck, why would i want to join if i know they're going to sacrifice me after my training? knowing the life expectancy of a US soldier in Iraq is only a few months, why bother joining the military? the cost-benefit is not worth taking a risk for in my book.
    The USAF is at full capacity. I read the AF Times recently which had an article saying the AF is overmanned by 40k troops. Not sure about the other services, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2knee View Post
    if he goes to war without the approval of the congress....
    I just had Pol Sci 100 last sem, and we learned that he can veto it and proceed with the damn war.

    I'm (still) paying $3/gallon for my diesel, but the other cars will suffer with premium gasoline.

    The US basically wants to remain a superpower, and will fight those who want to equal it. Stupid if I may say so. It's a country that promotes equality among its citizens, but not equality among nations.

    I just hope it does not trigger another 9/11.

    Oh by the way, waging war, according to my Pol Sci professor, also causes the economy to rise. Go figure.

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    The company I work for exited the military business years ago....

    2301:dog1:

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