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    #11
    sabi nga malakas sa basaan. engine bay washing is always included everytime i wash my auv. walang sayang sa tirang shampoo.

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    #12
    Can we say that old school diesel engine is more durable but not economical?
    I remember Isuzu C-190 engine very durable but not economical. It is very slow and noisy.

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    #13
    Kahit ba yung Alternator ok lang mabasa?

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    #14
    sies, dont forget the SD23 nissan engines. Noisy but tourqey at matipid sa gas

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    #15
    1997,
    Ok lang mabasa ang alternator but avoid it. May mga ic and diodes kasi.

    larshell,
    Unfortunately yes, it is more inefficient.
    My first diesel is SD 23, a true workhorse, reliable and fast.
    The gemini engines are also fast and legendary.

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    For me, as long as there's no ECU and it's not finicky to fuel quality then i consider it old school enough... D.I. can still fall under that maybe. Such engines are the 4D56, TD27, TD42, 4M40... and the Jeepney Isuzu diesels...
    By D.I., do you mean 'direct injection' or 'distribution injection'? If it's the former, AFAIK hindi kasama ang 4D56 since may prechamber pa siya.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; August 16th, 2007 at 05:59 PM.

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    so 2c-te ng lite ko, semi-old- school?

    may ecu/daignosis ports for easy pinpoint ng prob.. pero most 2c-te na nililipat sa mga FX can still work well even w/o that ecu..

    nga pala matic din nakakabit..

    how about 3c-t and 3c-TE.... 1kd-ftv? 2L-TE, 3L-TE?

    *4jtoots: about alternator:

    mas ok pala ang non-bulit-in IC-regulator sa alternator when comes to water forging? original nitong lite ko is non-built-in IC regulator, pero now pinalitan ko built-in(wala kasi ganun,e..),

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    #18
    Alwayz
    Isa sa mga kalaban ng Integrated Circuits is moisture. Another is heat that is why may heat sink sila to dessipate excess heat. Though IC in the alternator is more weather proof than the remote or voltage regulator type, extra caution should done when spraying water especially sa carwash when it still hot.

    Bogeyman,
    DI is more used to Direct Injection. Pwede rin DI ang tawag sa injection pump (na hindi inline) but they usually use rotary pump para di nakakalito. Good inquiry cause I think the rotary pump in early days was called distributor because of their similar operation.

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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by 4JGtootsie View Post
    DI is more used to Direct Injection. Pwede rin DI ang tawag sa injection pump (na hindi inline) but they usually use rotary pump para di nakakalito. Good inquiry cause I think the rotary pump in early days was called distributor because of their similar operation.
    CMIIW, but I'm under the impression na inline-four ang 4D56, using indirect fuel injection (distributor type) with a prechamber.

    Therefore, this lack of direct injection makes the 4D56 an old-school powerplant. Tama ba? :confused:
    Last edited by Bogeyman; August 16th, 2007 at 08:01 PM.

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    #20
    If I remember it right meron precombustion chamber ang 4D56. In line din ang injection pump (kasi non turbo version). I dont know with the newer 4D56 if rotary na. The sureball way to know is to find out the compression ratio. DI have higher ratios than those with precombustion chambers.
    Last edited by 4JGtootsie; August 16th, 2007 at 08:28 PM.

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