Suspension Lifts

[Ungas]

Up, up and away!!! :D

What is the ideal height for suspension lift on SUVs? Daily driven plus weekend offroad.

And if you can also include what brand of suspension and shock absorbers readily available here in our market. :D

[DSM619]

daily driven siguro mga 3" , not sure lang sa availability sa atin at kung may local made tayo .

dito pang araw araw nila mostly sa mga nakita ko is 5 - 6 " ang height and ProComp sikat , mahal nga lang pero sulit at tatagal talaga . kaya mataas kasi sa mga full size trucks ito or SUV .

[Ungas]

DSM619::: sir, kahit imported items basta meron. :D I know americans tend to over do things. :P Is 5-6" lift advisable for city driving? Iniisip ko baka di na magkasya height limit sa closed parking spaces.

[OTEP]

Ungas,

Heto po ay recommendation ko lamang for a budget lift. This will yield around 2"-3" over stock without using expensive lift kits.

Just buy 2" up coil springs from Ride or Armark. Balita ko mas mura sa Armark dahil ang isang pares ng rear springs ng Pajero ay Php10K sa Ride pero Php7.5K sa Armark (ewan ko lang kung anong brands iyan). hehehe. Reputable brands include OME, Ironman, etc.

Most aftermarket shocks from OME, Rancho, Bilstein or KYB will still work with your taller springs.

Dahil mas mataas na ride mo, you can stuff 33" tires underneath. O, ayan lifted ka na. Just don't forget to re-aim the headlamps and get the front wheels aligned.

2" from the springs + 1" from the tires = 3" (okay, a little less maybe). :mrgreen:

[Ungas]

OTEP::: That's what I was thinking of, mga 2-3 inch lift. Di kaya pumanget ang porma ng Safari? Then I imagined a 5-6 inch lift :P Baka naman magmukang "Clown Bus" instead of an Offroader, hehehehe :D

About the brands in suspension, my choices are either TJM or OME. (Any other brands available?)

Then for the shocks, Bilstein, Rancho, TJM or OME. (Procomp din sana kaso di yata available.)

I'm confused, which is which in exchange for the real value of money and quality plus riding comfort. :roll:

As for the tires, kapapalit ko lang ng front tires same size nung dati 32x15.

[DSM619]

actually nung una ko makita ang mga lifted na 6" at may mga 38" tires pa ito kala ko di street legal , pero andami nila at legal pala . yun nga lang limitado ka sa space sa Pinas sa parking , sa lane na dadaanan mo at baka sa garahe sobrang taas na di kasya .

maganda ang suggestion ni sir Otep , basta maganda ang suspension , need not too high , basta malaki rin gulong mukhang ang tangkad na eh .

di ko talaga familiar ang mga brands at components sa offroading , mag uumpisa pa lang ako kaya nga gusto ko benta kotse , tapos pipilian ko na lang full size na truck .

[OTEP]

Ungas,

Ok na ang 2-3". Kapag mga 5"-6" para ka nang yung mga tiga-rural America niyan. Hehehe. Baka hindi ka pa magkasya sa parking buildings.

TJM is a good brand. Pero sa Pajero kasi Ironman ang usually available, eh. Saka sa OME shocks pa lang ako may experience (a good one at that).

[Ungas]

Okidok, 2-3 inch lift :idea:

I wonder when the TJM parts will be available soon? :?

OME products are avilable as of now, but they're priced a bit high. ( I wonder if I could get it lower? Need help. :oops: )

I might attach it with Airtek snorkels too. :D

Though I'm still open with different brands, I need more infos with each brand and their characteristics.

[pajerokid]

ungas::: pare cant wait to see your new improved Patrol! 8) Honestly, Once your three angles improve baka maging LC killer na yan! :twisted: Among the three angles, mukhang weak ang Patrol sa Rampbreakover angle. Meron ka bang actual figure nito based on the Manual? I Just want to compare notes :D Sa Pajero V44 kasi approach = 42deg, Departure = 27deg, rampbreakover = 24.5deg


(wag na sana may humirit ng Patrol vs LC vs Pajero! my 2 cents lang po yan)

[DSM619]

anon ang mga angles na yan ? tnx .

[OTEP]

http://skidplate4x4.tripod.com/The_B...xplanation.htm

[DSM619]

tnx Otep yun pala yun . yung Montero ko 42/20 ok ba yun ?

[pajerokid]

otep::: nice info! :D

dsm619::: ok or not depends on you and the terrain you traverse. The angles are there to guide you as to what your suv can or can not achieve. :D This is the reason why Pajeros, LC's and Patrols have Inclinometers. Para malaman mo kung kaya o hindi :D

[mbt]

20 degrees is a poor departure angle...

[OTEP]

DSM619,

Masyado mababa departure angle na 20 degrees. Kami nga almost 30 degrees na and yet we were still literally banging our asses the last time we were in pampanga. I guess most long wheelbase rigs really do drag their tails across obstacles. Dented tuloy ang fuel tank ko (buti na lang may skidplate).

The 42 degree approach angle seems ok depending on what will get hit first in case we go over 42 degrees. In our case, its the plastic bumper...Tsk tsk...At least 42 degrees is quite high already.

Sa Ramp breakover talong-talo tayo ng mga short wheelbase machines diyan.

[pajerokid]

i second all that otep said. If you want to remedy your car's low Ass..... lifting springs!!! or if you want more angles for the cheap..... SPRING PADS :!::D Php100 lang isa!!!! around 1-2" lift! SA harap, you need torsion bar adjustments (for torsion bars only, of course) or lifting springs & pads OR TJM / ARB / Jaos bumpers! Magandang tignan for offroaders!!! but personally, not for me :D Di naaapreciate ng chiks e hehehe :wink:

[pajerokid]

.............oh what the heck! LETS GO CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


1) lifting springs
2) pads
3) BIG BIG TIRES
4) TORSION BAR ADJUSTMENT (if APPLICABLE)
4) TJM Bumpers (Guys nakita nyo yung Hilux ni Tantan? ganda:!
5) FRONT AND REAR DIFF LOCKERS (No sissy LSD for me... locking lang)
6) FRONT Power Take Off WINCH
7) REAR ELECTRIC WINCH (4000lb capable)
8) Long stroke Jack
9) ISNORKEL

SHIYET NA SEYUP YAN PARE! Ilagay mo yan sa Pajero SWB na naka 3.5GDI Ewan ko lang pag ma stuck ka pah!!!!! :lol:

[OTEP]

pajerokid,

Saan iyang spring lifting pads na iyan? Hehehe. Baka pwede ko nang isabay sa rear anti-roll bar removal ko.

Yung torsion bar ako na pipihit tapos pa-align na lang afterwards. 14 turns yata para sa 2" (basta magpantay sa likod).

Tapos saksakan ng 32X12.5 tires, ayos na.

Walang gumagawa ng front diff lock para sa Pajero. Bad trip. Ok lang wala din naman ako pambile. :mrgreen:

[pajerokid]

otep::: pare dami sa banawe nung pads! :D hanap ka na lang ng kasukat. Sa mga nagla-lako ka tanong. Madali lang install. all we need is a big alligator jack :D

Wala bang air-locker pang harap :?: ok lang din... pareho tayo..... wala rin pambili hehehehe :lol:

[DSM619]

Pajerokid , Otep - di ko naman pinag oofroad kasi bago pa at nakakapanghinayang , anyways ganun din ba design sa 2002 na Montero sa 2002 na Pajero ? dati naka 22" kaya bumaba tingnan eh si ermat ang pinapagamit ko kaya tanggal na lang ayaw kasi niya . Tataas kaya yun kahit mga 33" na tires ang ilagay ko w/ stock suspension , pang porma lang . OT na yata to , sorry tnx ulit .