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    in terms of durability and fuel economy, ano ang best choice: revo, xwind, innova or adventure? tnx!!

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    adventure

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    crosswind

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    Efficiency: Has to be a toss-up between the Crosswind's direct injection and the Innova's D-4D.

    Durability: I'm banking on Toyota.

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    toyota din ako, so i d go with revo=)

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    Adventure

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    I had a Crosswind XTO for my personal car which I used to and from the office while our office's service vehicle was a Revo which I used during sales calls.

    The Crosswind had very frugal fuel use but was a bit spartan in terms of drivability, ergonomics and NVH compared to the Revo and Adventure.

    The revo was a better drive because it has a car-like rack and pinion steering, while the crosswind is a 'recirculating ball type' or jeepney type steering. In spite of them having semi-ellipical leaf springs behind, the revo's rear suspension was better 'tuned' for comfort. Turn-signal stalks, buttons, gauges on the Revo are typical toyota which are all within finger/arms length and action is toyota precise while the crosswind was more truck-like.

    The GM of Isuzu Manila actually told me that the revo is a better car if you drive it yourself but in the end, I still chose the crosswind because of the engine's power/fuel economy and AT, which was not available on the Revo (diesel) at that time.

    HTH

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    the Mitsu AUV provides adequate punch and provides the most muscle among the diesels (except the Innova) however it loses out in the mileage race though fuel consumption is acceptable, provides car-like comfort due to low NVH levels just like that of a typical petrol car however occupants may feel osterized by it's stiff suspension though that stiff suspension has allowed Adventure to tackle corners as clean as possible.

    But with Innova out there, I think this Innova provides the balance of punch and fuel efficiency.

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    The only problem at the moment with Innova's D-4D is the choking problem.

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    If you get a gas powered engine innova, but if diesel crosswind. But if your after price adventure cause mitsubishi is giving out lots of discounts

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    ADVENTURE!!!

    dba malakas din naman sa gas ang d4d ng Innova... mine's now getting 10-11km/l city driving... i dont think its bad.

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    revo gas ba kasing takaw ng innova gas?

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    crosswind ..... crosswind......crosswind......crosswind......cross wind......

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    mas matipid ng konti ang innova gas kesa sa revo gas....

    eto vote ko..
    innova
    revo
    crosswind
    adventure

    hehe

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    i think innova, bcoz recent new, d4d? choking... nakakatakot yan ah... space...

    pero, crosswind still good these day, sana ireplace ng isuzu na yan with new body, chassis and engine.. able to be cope up with the competition...

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    Quote Originally Posted by center
    in terms of durability and fuel economy, ano ang best choice: revo, xwind, innova or adventure? tnx!!
    matagal nang debate na to ah :D
    durability? depends on whether you're talking of engine or overall durability.
    the 4JA1 of isuzu has been around since 1988, was used on elf minitrucks, and the fuego 4x2 pickups, mas matanda yata ng konti yung 4d56 ng mitsu, was used on the pajeros, and i think also on the 4x2 mitsu endeavor pickups, dunno about the 2L engine of the revo, pero yun yata gamit sa old 4x2 hiluxes, while the d4d is the new kid on the block. overall durability, i'd bet on innova, 2nd on crosswind.

    fuel economy, depends a lot on driving habits, but i'd go for crosswind xt, not xuv/sportivo. close 2nd innova. mas mabigat ng konti yung crosswind vs. innova, by 10 kgs yata, but it still turns out almost the same mileage as the innova. my personal experience, 11km/li for city driving(light to heavy traffic) about 15-15.5km hiway driving no traffic, max speeds of about 120kph, cruising 90-100kph. pag sinagad mo ng 130-140kph, mileage drops to 13km/liter.

    power? di naman yata yun ang natanong, pero that's another debatable issue. depends on gear ratios siguro, I won't rely on the power specs. I've driven both the isuzu fuego and nissan eagle 4x2 pickups, including the 4x4 old school hilux, in 4x2 mode. on paper, supposed to be pinakamalakas yung hilux, but the nissan and isuzu fuego felt more powerful.

    so the final verdict, kung durability and fuel efficiency lang usapan... ewan ... siguro innova, i'm betting on toyota quality control vs. isuzu's lack of quality consciousness sa passenger vehicles nila, they put more attention sa mga trucks and heavy duty rigs nila, for which they are undisputably #1 . let's see the reports of the innova owners who have logged more than 100,000km. I've logged more than 130,000km on my xto and so far, non-engine related problems lang ang lumabas, still the same fuel efficiency and still the same pulling power.
    Last edited by rsnald; July 21st, 2006 at 02:48 PM.

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    Marami ng thread na ganito. IMHO wala pa ring tatalo sa overall durability at driving comfort ng Hilander (SL/SLX) compared sa Crosswind/Revo/Adventure.

    Sa Innova naman hindi ko pa na try i-drive.

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    bad trip lang ang Isuzu aftersales...pero durable naman ang crosswind nila...
    fuel economy panalo sila...

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    Crosswind... base XT model. Anything higher-end is just overweight, bad-riding, and a lot of money for toys slapped onto a cheap car.

    If you're going for a higher priced unit, go for the Innova. One of the better (still don't like it) forward facing third rows and good handling for an AUV.

    I'd recommend a REVO VX model (nice riding cars), but they don't make them anymore.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Hmmm! Tough choice.

    For a gasoline powered entry-level MPV (aka AUV), the Innova gets my vote.

    For a diesel one, the Crosswind XTO or Everest 4x2 (if your budget permits) gets my nod.

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