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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post


    and they're gonna put 22 passengers in that "jeepney"?



    hindi ba underpowered yan?

    makaka ahon ba yan sa steep roads?
    you forgot, PLUS STANDING! so 22 seated + 1 driver + maybe 10 standing = 33 total. siguro kung pwede lang lagyan ng kulungan ng manok ano, pahiga.

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    #42
    ^^^

    so underpowered nga yan

    buti pa mga mini bus na Isuzu Forward platform (6BG1 engine)

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    #43
    I also don't see any provisions for allowing the passengers to request the vehicle to stop.
    i.e. no buttons/buzzers, tali (full string to staff)

    Wala ring visible provisions for efficient fare payment. So I guess makikisuyo pa rin ng bayad. At least man lang ma modernize ito para mabawasan yung distraction sa driver. Imagine having two of these behemoth jeepneys clogging the road as two drivers try to exchange barya sa umaga para panukli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ess View Post
    I also don't see any provisions for allowing the passengers to request the vehicle to stop.
    i.e. no buttons/buzzers, tali (full string to staff)

    Wala ring visible provisions for efficient fare payment. So I guess makikisuyo pa rin ng bayad. At least man lang ma modernize ito para mabawasan yung distraction sa driver. Imagine having two of these behemoth jeepneys clogging the road as two drivers try to exchange barya sa umaga para panukli.
    madali lang yan

    sasama ng driver ang misis niya sa bihaye... taga kolekta ng bayad

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    #45
    know how backward the Philippines is?

    this is Kenya:

    Kenya Commercial Bank and Modern Coast Bus unveil New Commuter Card | Middle East/Africa Hub

    Nairobi, Kenya: Kenya Commercial Bank (KCB) in partnership with one of East Africa’s largest bus companies, Modern Coast Bus Limited, today unveiled the Modern Coast Card that will enable commuters travelling across East Africa to pay for their tickets electronically.

    Besides being used for transit, consumers can use the MasterCard-branded card with contactless technology to pay for goods at millions of Point of Sale terminals in Kenya, and in over 210 countries around the world. Commuters can also enjoy other banking services from KCB to complement their transport usage such as mobile banking, agency banking and credit card facilities.

    Speaking during the launch, the KCB Group Chief Financial Officer, Collins Otiwu, said that this partnership is part of the bank’s long-term strategy of supporting the Government’s financial inclusion agenda and creating a seamless transition from cash to electronic payments in the transport sector.

    “In line with the Government’s directive that all payments in the transport industry should go cashless by 1 July 2014, we as KCB have made it a point to join hands with like-minded partners in the public transport industry to ensure that they beat this deadline. We want to facilitate this transition by rolling out the cards to over 40,000 passengers who use Modern Coast Bus monthly,” Otiwu said.

    The Modern Coast Card operates seamlessly through the KCB/Tap-To-Pay Near Field Communication (NFC) technology platform. Commuters will be able to load their cards through the KCB network, which includes KCB Mtaani agents, KCB M-Benki, KCB branches, KCB ATMs and Modern Coast branches across the region.

    “The Modern Coast Card uses MasterCard’s contactless technology that provides commuters with a safe, easy and convenient way to pay by simply tapping on a specially equipped terminal each time they enter or leave a station or bus. Fares are accurately calculated when they tap in and tap out,” said James Wainaina, Vice President and Area Business Head, MasterCard East Africa.

    After tapping their card, they will then get a physical or electronic receipt indicating the date, route and time of travel.

    “Through this partnership, KCB is committed to deliver a relevant and innovative solution to help our customers across the East African region enjoy the convenience of cashless payments,” Otiwu added.

    Modern Coast Bus Managing Director Haroon Butt said the Modern Coast Card will make it easier for them to manage their fleet and also reduce leakages, which are associated with the current system. Commuters will also be able to use their cards on other Public Service Vehicles (PSVs) operating in Kenya.

    “The cashless payment system will ensure that our revenues are monitored efficiently and seal revenue leakages. The system will also boost customer confidence in electronic transactions, e-commerce and online banking in the country,” Butt said.

    The successful migration of KCB cards to the new Europay, MasterCard and Visa (EMV) technology platform also enables its customers to securely and efficiently make payments using the new cards.

    sorry OT

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    #46
    According to Wikipedia, the N/A TD42 for the Safari makes 125hp and 273Nm. I suppose that'll be enough, given that the engine is still in excellent condition. An Isuzu 4HG1 turbo might be a more appropriate powerplant though.

    This seems to be a good facelift, but it really isn't a full model change so to speak. Still using 20 year old Japan surplus tech, and reviving Anfra designs. I wonder what kind of steel they used in manufacturing the body? Is it any thicker than the typical galvanized sheets? If they are indeed going to mass produce these, I'm pretty sure they'd have to fall back to surplus Elf or Canter platform again soon, as there aren't that many large SUVs for them to convert. That way there won't be anything "new" about it anymore. "New" would probably be something like the iVan body on the Safari platform plus sliding doors, a 70/30 split tailgate and possibly a brand new Isuzu truck engine.

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Sarao has been left in the dust by MD-Juan/Centro Manufacturing. This is already challenging Nissan Urvan in the FX AUV market...

    unlike Sarao that built jeepneys, Centro concentrated on fabricating bodies for trucks

    Centro got the attention of Japanese truck importers like Isuzu and Mitsubishi

    cab and chassis lang kasi mga brand new imported trucks

    kinontrata sila to make truck bodies kaya lumaki sila

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    #48
    ayus ito a. sana hindi na mausok.

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    #49
    Sarao should consider crowdsourcing the design.

    One of the Tsikot PHUV concepts:




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    lay off, guys! it's just a requirement for his thesis!
    laitin natin kapag tinutuo..

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Sarao should consider crowdsourcing the design.

    One of the Tsikot PHUV concepts:



    kahit anong ganda ng design kung puro pukpok, welding dito welding doon lang naman gagawin wala pa ring kuwenta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    kahit anong ganda ng design kung puro pukpok, welding dito welding doon lang naman gagawin wala pa ring kuwenta.
    I agree. Commercial success would require them to adopt global industry standards.

    However, are they supposed to wait (for probably a long time) until buyers of vehicles here reach a certain critical mass that would make mass-producing profitable?

    Perhaps a better route is to take advantage of low-volume and hand-crafted character of the industry to produce high-quality luxury cars (primarily for export), ala Ferrari or Lamborghini. I'm aware of the problems currently present, but I see that it's more... productive than just sit and wait for mass-production to be a feasible undertaking.

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    #53
    Luxury cars? With surplus engines! There you go!



    Uhm, you're joking, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Luxury cars? With surplus engines! There you go!



    Uhm, you're joking, right?
    Yup. I am joking with the surplus engine part, except that I didn't mention it. The fact that you assumed that makers would mix and match surplus parts and pass it off as a new vehicle speaks volumes on why after 60 years, the jeepney's only major innovation is to extend its wheelbase.

    I just hope at least one would graduate from that and consistently sell new vehicles with brand new engines from another maker. Pagani has their engines from Mercedes, after all.

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    #55



    not bad for a school thesis

    let's be real it's a sarao

    at least we have a proof of concept (baby steps)

    perhaps a technical upgrade and a little collabo with jackie will produce the next iteration, the next working 'almost-ready-for-mass-market' prototype

    then comes the funding and manufacturing which i guess his family can deal with

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    #56
    If I was making a thesis on redesigning the jeepney, I'd submit this:



    The PWV (Public Worship Vehicle) or jeepney church. Because Filipinos are religious.

    I'm sure I'll get a high grade. Okay, maybe not.

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Sarao has been left in the dust by MD-Juan/Centro Manufacturing. This is already challenging Nissan Urvan in the FX AUV market...

    Agree. This locally assembled Isuzu I-Van developed by Centro and Isuzu for the local market is much better than that "new" jeepney.

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    #58
    Dapat ang goverment mag set ng isang design for jeep. As in iisang itsura at body. Kung maari pa nga iisa lang ang kulay para uniform. Yung engine e two type pang city at pang akyatan.. Alam ko naman hindi pwd pilitin ng goverment ang mga operator na sundin yun kaya e implement lang ang new design sa mga new jeep. Para magkaroon ng mgamdang labanan sa quality mag authorise ang goverment ng 2 to 3 car make na gagawa ng parehong design ng jeep. Then bigyan ng 10 to 20years na palugit ang lahat ng operator na baguhin ang mga jeep nila.. Mas maayos tignan kung uniform ang jeep, base sa standard ang laki at haba.

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    #59
    I will still go for the Sarao prototype 1..

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    I have no problem with the current jeepney design. With the full implementation of the Euro 4, what is needed is Euro 4 compliant engines. This would force all new jeepneys to go CRDi.

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