Filipino-made Utility Vehicles in the Past

[jpdm]

ocanusjr,

--why not the good ol' remodelled anfra as a variant of the PHUV?Aside from the Tsikot PHUV, MVPMAP PHUV, DPROX? Although model Z that is envisioned to replace the MVPMAP PHUV ver.1 looks very very good.

--Nasaan na yung anfra nyo ocanusjr?


--Everytime I see Anfra, corny man, pero may kurot lagi sa puso ko. It symbolizes the glory days of the Genuine local motor industry and genuine local vehicles destroyed by vested interests (Unholy alliance of vehicle importers of CBU and not manufacturers).

--Sabagay, may karma naman e.But then again its not too late. Something can still be done.

[webmiester]

ocanusjr,

--why not the good ol' remodelled anfra as a variant of the PHUV?Aside from the Tsikot PHUV, MVPMAP PHUV, DPROX? Although model Z that is envisioned to replace the MVPMAP PHUV ver.1 looks very very good.

--Nasaan na yung anfra nyo ocanusjr?


--Everytime I see Anfra, corny man, pero may kurot lagi sa puso ko. It symbolizes the glory days of the Genuine local motor industry and genuine local vehicles destroyed by vested interests (Unholy alliance of vehicle importers of CBU and not manufacturers).

--Sabagay, may karma naman e.But then again its not too late. Something can still be done.

I like the first gen na Anfra more than the 2nd gen The first gen had rugged angular construction.

Yung 2nd gen parang pinilit nilang isaksak yung headlights ng mazda B2000 van tapos binilog...

Actually yan ang problem din ng supplies ng mga gawa natin, our designs are dependent on the lights, dashboards, and supplies of whatever we can get from other cars on the market. Wala talaga tayong sasakyan na designed para sa vehicle na iyon yung lights niya.

yung PhUV nga rin, parang gusto nilang ibilog yung front but the lights they had were flat, so they came up with the strange fiberglass molding na lang.

[webmiester]

The ENZO 911 is a statement that the Pinoy can! ... this is the brainchild of Dino Juan... owner of Pier One. He made it from a kit from Colin Replicas from England and made some adjustments so as to not duplicate the original dimensions.

Porsche Club of the Philippines filed a suit against Dino to pressure him in mothballing the project and destroy the moulds eventually. It appeared at that time that it was Porsche AG who was behind it... but it turned out to be fellow Pinoys...

Anyway, the moulds are with me, and they are in the safe hands of some friends.... and I am not going to disclose their whereaboouts. Making replicas on limited production volume isn't against the law. Making them on a commercial scale is. If you have a donor VW... we can build one ENZO for you.

By the way, the ENZO is not Pinoy designed... it is actually a replicated replica of the Colin Porsche Replicars from England. But, it is still the closest thing to the real one. With its light weight... it has almost the same power to weight ratio as the real thing.

It's is actually under the category of a Kit Car.
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Mga Pilipino rin pala nagstop nun? Kakainis naman itong crab mentality sa atin

Oo nga, dami-daminig kit replica cars sa US, hindi naman sila hinahabla. That is sooooo unfair!!! Hindi pala foreigners ang bumabanat sa atin... Mga PILIPINO RIN!

Actually, I would really really like to have one of those. Sana nga I can buy an old sira-sira beetle, then purchase a brand new beetle engine, then put on the enzo body

I hope we can get in touch when Im ready to assemble a new car

[romski123]

Here's a Filipino Made Utility Vehicle still in use today!!

[jpdm]

Mga Pilipino rin pala nagstop nun? Kakainis naman itong crab mentality sa atin
Oo nga, dami-daminig kit replica cars sa US, hindi naman sila hinahabla. That is sooooo unfair!!! Hindi pala foreigners ang bumabanat sa atin... Mga PILIPINO RIN!
Actually, I would really really like to have one of those. Sana nga I can buy an old sira-sira beetle, then purchase a brand new beetle engine, then put on the enzo body
I hope we can get in touch when Im ready to assemble a new car

Sir webmiester wag ka nang lumayo. Dito lang sa Tsikot e ang dami nang ipinain ng mga big boys na Pinoy trolls who have a mission to destroy the PHuv project.

[jpdm]

Here's a Filipino Made Utility Vehicle still in use today!!

--Actually this is the reason why started the discussions about a redesigned tricycle. If somebody can come up with simple carriage (with variation: 4 seater passenger carriage; a mini closed van; a mini retail van (ice cream van?) design that can be easily attached with the motorcycle I think we can revolutionalise the crude habal-habal, tricycle and other tricycle contraptions in the country. And it might be the start of the transformation of the Pinoy transport landscape and industry.

--I saw one tricycle contraption 6 seater in Las Pinas in Moonwalk, Las PInas. Nasa unahan yung motorsiklo at parang maliit na van yung trcycle. Bale nakasalpak yung motor sa harap ng carriage.

[webmiester]

--Actually this is the reason why started the discussions about a redesigned tricycle. If somebody can come up with simple carriage (with variation: 4 seater passenger carriage; a mini closed van; a mini retail van (ice cream van?) design that can be easily attached with the motorcycle I think we can revolutionalise the crude habal-habal, tricycle and other tricycle contraptions in the country. And it might be the start of the transformation of the Pinoy transport landscape and industry.

--I saw one tricycle contraption 6 seater in Las Pinas in Moonwalk, Las PInas. Nasa unahan yung motorsiklo at parang maliit na van yung trcycle. Bale nakasalpak yung motor sa harap ng carriage.

Actually, I forgot kung anong province yun, Sa tanay ko yata nakita yun. Mga 20-seater jeepney na tricycle. Yung makina,chassis and tires pang-jeepney talaga pero they put only one wheel in front, to evade taxes. They're using this 3 wheeler behemoth off-road up the mountain!

Yung mga tuk-tuk ng thailand are so marketed and world-famous, pero yung mga larger tricycles ng Boracay and Guimaras Islands are nice too Ang problem nga lang is that its hard to introduce changes with our crab mentality.

In one place I heard, a route was only serviced by tricycle drivers. When someone introduced a jeepney, the tricycle drivers would always throw stones at the jeepney, kaya ayun, nagstop namasada yung jeepney. If someone tries out these larger capacity tricycles sa usual routes, siguradong papatayin siya ng ibang tricycle drivers. It's really hard to introduce progress kapag ganun!

[webmiester]

Sir webmiester wag ka nang lumayo. Dito lang sa Tsikot e ang dami nang ipinain ng mga big boys na Pinoy trolls who have a mission to destroy the PHuv project.

Well Im not surprised, but I am deeply disappointed

[jpdm]

If someone tries out these larger capacity tricycles sa usual routes, siguradong papatayin siya ng ibang tricycle drivers. It's really hard to introduce progress kapag ganun!

--kung ang magmamaneho ay hindi miyembro. My idea is to convince certain TODAs to embrace the idea of having a new type of tricycle without actually displacing the existing ones. parang may phases ang introduction.. And let them earn from it also.

--I think kung yung mga leaders mismo ang gumamit initially ng improved version ng tricycle siguro mababa ang resistance ng iba. Iba lang ang itsura pero ganun din seating capacity.

--yung nakita ko sa las PInas may nakita akong tatak na TODA so member sya ng tricycle association dun. Abay punong puno.

--I think it is feasible. But then again, I will re-check the viability by conducting again a survey.

[trunks]

Jeepney ang da best para sa akin. Sana hanggang dun nlang, wla na un iba iba klase ng sasakyan i.e. pedicab, tricycle, AUV etc. Pagbutihin nlang ang pgawa, lagyan ng standard para mganda tingnan. kanya kanya kasi ng bira ang mga gumagawa kaya ayun, maraming pangit tingnan... may mukhang truck na d maintindhan, may mukhang tagpi tagpi... cheap tuloy ang dating. Ibalik sana tulad ng dati...very colorful, masaya tingnan... parang fiesta lagi. Pinoy na pinoy tlaga

[jpdm]

Expressways, major highways--mass transport systems such as LRTs, TRAMs, Subways, Buses.

Secondary roads, provincial roads, jeepneys and PHUVs.

Side streets, subdivisions--electric cars, TRIMA

[Lucius]

Sikat daw sa Paris ang SARAO! For tourism purposes daw accoring to my prof

[webmiester]

Sikat daw sa Paris ang SARAO! For tourism purposes daw accoring to my prof

Someone told me it was the european stint daw that killed Sarao. They had orders of so many units from a european client (He says he thinks it was Germany, but now that you've mentioned it, it could be France). The first units were good, but Sarao had to rush the other units (kasi marami nga, nasa hundreds yung order). Quality control went down with the rushed units and many of them were shipped back to the Philippines for repair. It was the repair and shipment of these units which made Sarao bankrupt daw.

[webmiester]

Jeepney ang da best para sa akin. Sana hanggang dun nlang, wla na un iba iba klase ng sasakyan i.e. pedicab, tricycle, AUV etc. Pagbutihin nlang ang pgawa, lagyan ng standard para mganda tingnan. kanya kanya kasi ng bira ang mga gumagawa kaya ayun, maraming pangit tingnan... may mukhang truck na d maintindhan, may mukhang tagpi tagpi... cheap tuloy ang dating. Ibalik sana tulad ng dati...very colorful, masaya tingnan... parang fiesta lagi. Pinoy na pinoy tlaga

Actually there is a standard. Marcos came up with some sort of a standardization before. Also, the LTO has minimum standards to meet before it can be regarded roadworthy and can be registered...at least ideally.

Yung pagiging kanya-kanyang bira makes some variety which is a trademark of the jeepney I think the problem is in the maintenance. Our jeepney drivers hardly make enough to eat, and don't know how to save/invest money pa, kaya we can't expect them to give good maintenance on their jeepneys. Nor can they afford expensive repairs to make their jeepneys really really nice looking.

Also, another problem is lack of organization. I recall reading an article where jeepney manufacturers laments not even having their own organization. We can't standardized if there is no national body representing jeepney manufacturers.

[vicman]

dati mga 1990 meron kami anfra bago pa nabili ng dad ko un kso 1 year pa lang dami na ng problema 1 year p nga lang inover haul n agad ung makina nka 2 yrs dn sa amin un eventually binenta na dn ng dad ko kse skit lang dw sa ulo...and pinalit na lang nya tamaraw fx which is up to this day ok pa..

[webmiester]

I'll list what i can remember

toyota tamaraw
ford fiera gen 1
cimmaron
trakbayan
sakbayan
GM harabas
FMC pinoy
isuzu KC20
ford fiera XLT
nissan bida
FMC Anfra
delta mini cruiser??
carter motors - yung parang G-wagon
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meron pa ba?

Do you guys remember another brand which used to advertise being able to do 40km/L of diesel (actually parang 80km/L nga ang tanda ko e)? Parati din siyang nagaadvertise sa diyaryo noon. Yung itsura niya parang Land Rover Defender...

[donbuggy]

dati mga 1990 meron kami anfra bago pa nabili ng dad ko un kso 1 year pa lang dami na ng problema 1 year p nga lang inover haul n agad ung makina nka 2 yrs dn sa amin un eventually binenta na dn ng dad ko kse skit lang dw sa ulo...and pinalit na lang nya tamaraw fx which is up to this day ok pa..

The lack of quality in their products could be the reason why the local manufacturers of utility vehicles went belly up. Enthusiasm and patriotism is not enough. The makers of the Phuv should learn from this and make sure that it is built to high standards. Do a lot of testing in the lab and on/off the roads before launching the product. If they don't, the Phuv might suffer the same fate as the other local AUVs.

[webmiester]

The lack of quality in their products could be the reason why the local manufacturers of utility vehicles went belly up. Enthusiasm and patriotism is not enough. The makers of the Phuv should learn from this and make sure that it is built to high standards. Do a lot of testing in the lab and on/off the roads before launching the product. If they don't, the Phuv might suffer the same fate as the other local AUVs.

Well, I guess this means the PhuV will go up in smoke since they chose a chinese engine as powerplant

I also saw this body called the "Neovan". its a high-side pickup with roof mounted on an L300 cab or Hyudai Porter. Maganda sana yung design kaso lahat ng nakikita kong ganun, sobrang kalawang, tanggal ng ang bumber, etc. Yung neighbor ng friend ko has one, they told me wala pang 1 year old siya, they had to repaint and body repair it na

[ocanursjr]

[QUOTE=jpdm;910273]ocanusjr,

--why not the good ol' remodelled anfra as a variant of the PHUV?Aside from the Tsikot PHUV, MVPMAP PHUV, DPROX? Although model Z that is envisioned to replace the MVPMAP PHUV ver.1 looks very very good.

--Nasaan na yung anfra nyo ocanusjr?


sir jpdm, binenta s kamag anak nmin. my dad business was heavily affected by financial crisis a decade ago. and then after 4 years binentan rin ng kmag anak nmin...afaik, tga cavite ung nkabili. cant remember n ung plate number.

[ocanursjr]

dati mga 1990 meron kami anfra bago pa nabili ng dad ko un kso 1 year pa lang dami na ng problema 1 year p nga lang inover haul n agad ung makina nka 2 yrs dn sa amin un eventually binenta na dn ng dad ko kse skit lang dw sa ulo...and pinalit na lang nya tamaraw fx which is up to this day ok pa..

sir vicman, 1993 nman ung anfra nmin. we used it for 3 years. wala kming nging problema. pinalit nmin ung tamaraw fx, my dad used his tamaraw for 10 years but he decided to let it go again looking for a used/new unit.