"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

[ghosthunter]

Once the prototype is done - kahit 3D model muna - upload it to a video game to compare with cars of it's class - this way - simulated ang virtual environment and performance and feel nung design or concept. (again, this is a low approach pero - acceptable... FEA is more expensive... but necessary - ideal)

Pag - ok na... then have the 3D model CNC milled for life size model.

Magastos ito - pero necessary.

Finite Element Analysis has been available in the country for over a decade in DLSU. In fact the two cars (micro car projects) I had been involved back in college were simulated in FEA for crash and stresses.

Back then, we didn't even use 3D models nor had the need to upload to virtual video games. We made designs on paper and physical small scale models (to aid visualization of the design and parts interaction).

Using high tech tools are fine. But if you end up getting stuck with them and unable to proceed to the next step, then there is something wrong.

then another gastos is when the design engineers gets their assignments to develop each part and components - if there are about 500 major components - distribute these to possible manufacturers... qualify them, make a sort of bidding, supply them the blueprints.

And that is where we start to fail. We fail to make use of globalization. You keep on seeing the need to locally manufacture every single part down to the last component. Why reinvent the wheel when someone can make it to your specifications or better at a cheaper cost? All you need to do is look at re-branding and subcontracting.

then the Assembly engineering work steps in... to study how and what ways to assemble the car quickly in consideration or after consultation with supply chain management staff.

If you can't get a viable prototype off the drawing board, we don't have to bother with the assembly line.

This way - a concept car can be made cheap - the cost of the design and manufacturing process is one time only... the same platform can be used for more designs to come... Platform adaptation/ Technology... with most of the OTC parts can also be reversed engineered if they are simpler to bui;ld and are not exposed out of the cars body.

We did it for a lot cheaper with less technology a decade ago with a bunch of college students in less time. We didn't spend two years playing around with 3D models. We started cutting metal once the major parts were finalized. The prototypes made were never meant to be commercialized but as a stepping stone to something that might.

[uls]

Audi E-tron



4 motors, 1 battery and 3,319 lb-ft of torque

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/15/o...-4-motors-1-b/

[aejhayl17]

Audi E-tron



4 motors, 1 battery and 3,319 lb-ft of torque

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/15/o...-4-motors-1-b/

this would have been a superior e-taxi here in the philippines. baka di na ko bumaba pag yan ang taxi na nasakyan ko

anyways, as of now, di pa din ako masyadong boto sa e-jeepneys, they cost too much, and very isolated cases lang ang pwedeng galawan ng e-jeepneys. and ihmo, its not a universal vehicles that can go through what ordinary jeepneys can go like bad roads(good roads are extinct in the Phil,). natural phoenomena ex.4ft+ high floods, overloading, mechanical and physical abuse. and many more.

[foifoi05]

e-jeepneys or not.... i just wish they would stop in designated Jeepney stops and wont wait for passengers etc etc, atleast here in the metro.

mas ok sana if were going to focus on e-cars, kahit pang subdivision lang, around the size of a smartcar.


sorry for the ot.

[ehnriko]

e-jeepneys or not.... i just wish they would stop in designated Jeepney stops and wont wait for passengers etc etc, atleast here in the metro.

mas ok sana if were going to focus on e-cars, kahit pang subdivision lang, around the size of a smartcar.


sorry for the ot.

We should adopt something like that of the Bus loop system like those in europe... like Netherlands for instance.

A bus arrives at a specified stops for a short while... then leaves ... another bus arrives after 10 minutes or 15 minutes.... does the same. (This is where the term - You missed the bus originated).

This way, people will have discipline... coming on time, leaving on time arriving on time. It has everything to do with culture.

In our spoiled culture... people tend to expect to be brought exactly right in front of their residences to avoid a few more steps in walking. Thus- the Tricycle solves it! Tricycles tend to spoil our lazy feet. Jeepneys on the other hand spoils our lethargic views about schedules and time - thus The creation of the Filipino Time!. Jeepneys will Wait - till it's loaded. But Haste when to scrape the road and overload itself with pedestrians. All because we have no system. If they will only run in a system like that of Europe... People will not be endangered in the road or on board a jeep.

These big jeeps should not be driven like ambulant pedicabs - all chasing to get more passengers and blocking other road users along the way - causing traffic havoc - a cause and effect thing - a butterfly effect - a chain reaction - who suffers in the end? This chaos also gives way to jack rabbit starts or launching which creates majority of the smoke and toxic pollution in Metro Manila.... which causes our high rise of respiratory problems (Philippine Lung Center data)... thats under rated by media and where no one bothers to showing to the public and create a sort of public awareness.

Talking Green became a sort of fashion... Pinoys are really vain... if it's not fashionable - forget it. We always need to be IN. This is not the way to progress at all. but if this is needed to achieve an end... then by all means - those who are in the know should use it.

E-cars is really ideal... If we can make our power plants run on stirling or hydrogen plus solar/ wind/ geothermal and CNG combination, mixture or dedicated system... Then we can really have a green environment.

This is the long term goal... which needs long term investment.

But right now... the bridge is really not that far for the transition.

We do have some quick fixes and they are not really far than it seems.

[ehnriko]

Finite Element Analysis has been available in the country for over a decade in DLSU. In fact the two cars (micro car projects) I had been involved back in college were simulated in FEA for crash and stresses. Back then, we didn't even use 3D models nor had the need to upload to virtual video games. We made designs on paper and physical small scale models (to aid visualization of the design and parts interaction). Using high tech tools are fine. But if you end up getting stuck with them and unable to proceed to the next step, then there is something wrong.

And that is where we start to fail. We fail to make use of globalization. You keep on seeing the need to locally manufacture every single part down to the last component. Why reinvent the wheel when someone can make it to your specifications or better at a cheaper cost? All you need to do is look at re-branding and subcontracting.

If you can't get a viable prototype off the drawing board, we don't have to bother with the assembly line.

We did it for a lot cheaper with less technology a decade ago with a bunch of college students in less time. We didn't spend two years playing around with 3D models. We started cutting metal once the major parts were finalized. The prototypes made were never meant to be commercialized but as a stepping stone to something that might.

You are absolutely right.

with regards to 3D tools... it is indeed ideal to use these - but it's not really expensive as it seems.

For example... Sketchup - it's FREE! I use it to make my concepts into 3D. The files are also exportable to 3DSMax which is uploadable to AUTOCAD - which can be used for CNC Mills.

Nothing gets done without enthusiasm... enthusiasm is the biggest Kinetic Force available in our country. If we can harness this - then everything in that drawing board can materialize.

Subcontracting or Rebadging worked well with Thailand, Malaysia, Korea and China in their early years before they have established themselves.

We dont have to reinvent the wheel... I agree, but we need to realize something.

We are actually ahead of these countries that I mentioned. 300 years ago, we had our Electric Tranvias looping Old Manila - this was erased in the short lived memories of Pinoys... everything was taken out of the country during and after the wars. Our Jeepneys and Tricycles are clear manifestations of concepts that didnt take place in a drawing board but was short cut to cater immediate needs.

Our resiliency and ingenuity has placed Cavite City in 1963 as the richest City in Asia... This 300 year old City has more history buried beneath it's adobe streets but nowadays - there is no more room for heritage among our young Pinoys. Systematically, we were enslaved... Thanks to the propaganda in Japan during 1940's for making Philippines a slave nation.

Japan decided to keep Pinoys in the dark in terms of Automotive Industry potential in developing our country.

If a country doesn't have his own transportation industry - it will be very hard to make it progressive. Of course, there has been many developments in the recent years and many commendable moves made by major industry players in this field. No need to mention them... but there are still element lacking.

I guess it's about culture... Ingrained in our minds is a belief that We can't possibly do it.

Allow me to share this.

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[KERSMcRae]

OT:hey ehnriko, what's your work now? Im also learning to use SketchUp. I find it easier compared to other 3D modelling softwares.

and what a sad experience for you. That's why I preferred to work here in the country kahit sobrang gulo. We're lucky to have above industry salary although not as high as those earned abroad. Ang importante, kasama ko pa ang pamilya ko.

BTT: I really want to get rid of those ugly, smoke-belcher jeepneys here in the metro and replace them with e-jeepneys. How I wish I have millions (like Money Pacquiao) to start or support a similar project.
Hmmmm... go Tsikot_partylist!! . Sino kaya ang magiging representative ??

[ehnriko]

OT:hey ehnriko, what's your work now? Im also learning to use SketchUp. I find it easier compared to other 3D modelling softwares.

and what a sad experience for you. That's why I preferred to work here in the country kahit sobrang gulo. We're lucky to have above industry salary although not as high as those earned abroad. Ang importante, kasama ko pa ang pamilya ko.

BTT: I really want to get rid of those ugly, smoke-belcher jeepneys here in the metro and replace them with e-jeepneys. How I wish I have millions (like Money Pacquiao) to start or support a similar project.
Hmmmm... go Tsikot_partylist!! . Sino kaya ang magiging representative ??

What keeps me busy are the following:

1. Advocacy to Stop Filipino Corporate Slave Labor Exportation and Exploitation...
2. R & D with Hydrogen as alternative or supplemental solution to pollution... NOT ALL HHO CELLS ARE EQUAL.
3. Developing (undisclosed) designs for (undisclosed entities). :-)

If a country needs to be strong... then the basic units of society has to be strong. This is the Family...

How can we expect to be strong if systematically, the heads of the familes are exported outside our country?

Gaano kadami na ang broken families or disfunctional?... sobrang tagal na tayong nagsacrifice... 70's pa, up to now - they still think the grass is greener outside... My goodness, they dont really know what they're talking about.

Yung laki ng sweldo nila outside the country is not enough to buy them lost time... or lost families.

Count your blessings for holding your guns here... at home... and cherish every moment you spend time with your kids and loved ones.

To a certain extent... this song comes to mind... "LOVE WILL KEEP US ALIVE".

[ghosthunter]

How can we expect to be strong if systematically, the heads of the familes are exported outside our country?

Gaano kadami na ang broken families or disfunctional?... sobrang tagal na tayong nagsacrifice... 70's pa, up to now - they still think the grass is greener outside... My goodness, they dont really know what they're talking about.

Yung laki ng sweldo nila outside the country is not enough to buy them lost time... or lost families.

Unfortunately, the grass IS greener outside. They do get more pay than the same job inside the Philippines. The downside is the separation, cultural difference, climate, etc.

The problem is an entire family ends up depending on the salary of a single OFW. That single family would include the parents, a dozen kids and maybe one or both grand parents as well. The rather big pay that the OFW earns abroad goes to paying and feeding "freeloaders" whose only intention is to wait for the next "money-padala" to arrive. They do not have the initiative to find work to support the family.

If the local family is self sufficient, the paycheck of the OFW can go to investments or at least saved for the more expensive stuff like college education, etc that would improve that family's future.

[ehnriko]

Unfortunately, the grass IS greener outside. They do get more pay than the same job inside the Philippines. The downside is the separation, cultural difference, climate, etc.

The problem is an entire family ends up depending on the salary of a single OFW. That single family would include the parents, a dozen kids and maybe one or both grand parents as well. The rather big pay that the OFW earns abroad goes to paying and feeding "freeloaders" whose only intention is to wait for the next "money-padala" to arrive. They do not have the initiative to find work to support the family.

If the local family is self sufficient, the paycheck of the OFW can go to investments or at least saved for the more expensive stuff like college education, etc that would improve that family's future.

True... This is a fact.

Evidently, more work is indeed needed to overhaul this country.

This so called - altruistic act of the breadwinner - breaking his back outside the country for the benefit his family or barangay for that matter. It is actually spoiling the family... making them dependent all the more.

Now we just have more thoughts to ponder than it already is.

Sec. of Education should join this forums.