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  1. Join Date
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    Whats the best thing to do pag nabaha o dumaan sa baha ang kotse mo? Mga knee deep water siguro pero maikli lang naman (5 meters siguro). Is it better to turn off the engine at itulak (example kung may mga boy na magtutulak) or mas okay na naka-on yung engine pero sobrang bagal lang ang takbo? Hanggang 1st gear lang? Io-off ba ang aircon?

    Ano ano ang kailangan I-check sa makina? Ano ang pwedeng masira at ipagawa?
    Pag nakaahon na sa tubig ano kailangan gawin? I –rev and I-test ang brakes?

    Kung nakapasok ang tubig sa loob ng kotse, saan pwede magpalinis? Pwede bang I shampoo ang flooring? Babaho kase pag hindi natuyo. Pano nakapasok ang tubig sa loob?

    HELP!

    Kung may iba pa kayong safety precautions before and after crossing a knee deep flood, post nyo na dito. Thanks!

  2. Join Date
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    If you don't have to cross it, then just avoid it altogether.

    Otherwise:
    1) Turn off the A/C
    2) Overrev the engine and ride the clutch throughout the flooded portion
    3) Pump the brakes every so often and brake farther from your usual braking distance. The brakes are weaker when wet or submersed.
    4) Kung may magtutulak eh patayin nalang at ipatulak

    After clearing the flooded portion

    1) check sections of the intake for any water
    2) check the distributor if its contaminated
    3) pump the brakes again just to be sure that you have your brakes back to normal

    Detailing shops can remove your carpet and clean it off the car. This is the best way to do it rather than cleaning and drying it from the inside.

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    depende kung gano kahaba and kalalim yung lulusungin mo. in your case, 5 meters nga lang pero hanggang tuhod naman, which means, entire wheel mo lubog. in your given case too, mas maganda nang pababain yung tubig muna o if you can't help it, patayin mo na lang yung engine at itulak.

    kung medyo mababa naman yung tubig, let's say kalahati ng gulong. should go through the water slowly, on first gear and on high rev. dapat patay aircon.

    sa makina, kung mababaw lang naman tubig, alang dapat ipa check. kung naka matik ka, you need to change your AT fluid. kung kaya pa, ipa change oil mo na rin.

    pag-ahon mo in both cases (ke mababaw o malalim), mawawalan ka talaga ng brakes. drive slowly habang inaapakapakan yung brakes, in this way matuyo yung loob ng brake mechanism. pag umaraw-araw na, pwede mo na ring ipalinis yung brakes. pero pwede mong i-reschedule ito kung alam mong tagulan pa. pagdating na lang ng christmas mo ipalinis.

    hope this helps.

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    Paalala lang po, don't park the vehicle with hand brakes after water fording. Maninikit ito overnight and you will have a hard time disengaging it the next morning. Better leave the vehile parked in gear overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungas
    Paalala lang po, don't park the vehicle with hand brakes after water fording. Maninikit ito overnight and you will have a hard time disengaging it the next morning. Better leave the vehile parked in gear overnight.
    korek ka dyan! maraming di nakaka-alam nyan

    also have your drum brakes cleaned.

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    tama kayo about the handbrake after going through floods

    as for teh change tranny fluid.. on most jap cars... you'd definitely have to do that.. kasi ang baba ng dipstick ng A/T and even if its a sealed tranny... papasukin yan sa dipstick.. unlike MBs.. ang dipstick nya is located as high as the engine itself.

    for matic, put it in D, foot on the gas pedal (a little higher than usual rev).. other foot on brakes.. just in case na sumibat...

  7. Join Date
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    galing nyo talaga buti na lang nabasa ko yung dont park with handbrakes... pag galing sa baha.. he.he.he... paano kung galing sa carwash... no handbrakes din ba.?

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    Bakit sa off-roading 101, halos murahin tayo ng instructor kapag tinapakan natin ang clutch while submerged?

    For me, no clutch underwater ang policy ko (unless kelangang huminto, quick step lang ginagawa ko then slam into neutral).

    Although unnerving at first, a well-maintained engine will actually idle underwater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marwen
    galing nyo talaga buti na lang nabasa ko yung dont park with handbrakes... pag galing sa baha.. he.he.he... paano kung galing sa carwash... no handbrakes din ba.?
    Nope, pwede naman gamitin ang handbrakes pag galing carwash. Hindi naman kasi pinapasok ng tubig ang drums pag hinuhugasan. Or kung may pumasok man ng konti, hindi ito maninikit tulad ng galing sa baha.


    Initial gear shifting apak clutch then bitaw sa 1st gear, when the vehicle is about to stop, I just pull it to neutral without stepping on the clutch. Ginagawa ko lang ito pag malalim at abot flooring ang baha. Kung lampas rims lang ang babaw ng tubig drive it like usual pace.

  10. Join Date
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    salamat sa reply. helpful itong thread na to kse rainy season na e di naman maiiwasan minsan na may madaanan tayo na baha.

    di ko alam yung tungkol sa handbrakes...

    is there a hole sa ilalim ng car na kailangan may cover? iniisip ko kung pano nakapasok yung tubig e... at tanging sa likod lang ang nabasa. sa likod ng driver.

    magkano yung palinis ng flooring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    Bakit sa off-roading 101, halos murahin tayo ng instructor kapag tinapakan natin ang clutch while submerged?

    For me, no clutch underwater ang policy ko (unless kelangang huminto, quick step lang ginagawa ko then slam into neutral).

    Although unnerving at first, a well-maintained engine will actually idle underwater.
    I think we're talking about knee-deep floods on ordinary streets with ordinary cars. Not 4X4 off-roading. The rationale behind riding the cluth and overrevving while traversing a flooded area is to keep the exhaust velocity enough to prevent water from stalling the engine by going in the exhaust. How can you do this on a normal car if you're in idle? Maintenance of the engine has nothing to do with it. The point is to prevent water from getting in the exhaust. Another thing to consider is that catalytic converters in the exhaust works at high temperatures. Getting it submerged in water can crack it. It's very expensive to replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolGal
    is there a hole sa ilalim ng car na kailangan may cover? iniisip ko kung pano nakapasok yung tubig e... at tanging sa likod lang ang nabasa. sa likod ng driver.

    magkano yung palinis ng flooring?
    Meron kasi drain hole sa lahat ng flooring. Malamang yung rear passenger sides malutong na ang goma. Dito pumapasok ang tubig baha lalo na kung malalim ang tubig. It should be water proofed, pero kung medyo matagal na ang sasakyan lumulutong ang seal at pumapasok ang hindi dapat.

    Kung gusto mo, pa-complete interior detailing mo na lang yan para mas makatipid ka. Tatanggalin lahat ng carpet, upuan, interior mo lilinis pa. :D Huhugasan nila angbuong carpet and shampoo pati upuan.

  13. FrankDrebin Guest
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    irmscher,

    i have tried crossing an almost kneee deep or let's say 3/4 of a tire with a Civic EK w/o over-revving the engine. I just shift to first gear, run a "slowly but surely" speed to make a "water bow" then viola nakatawid naman.

    or tsamba lang?


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    OT: Frank, hayuff yung pic sig mo ah. kakaelibs!!! :mrgreen:

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    Quote Originally Posted by irmscher
    I think we're talking about knee-deep floods on ordinary streets with ordinary cars. Not 4X4 off-roading. The rationale behind riding the cluth and overrevving while traversing a flooded area is to keep the exhaust velocity enough to prevent water from stalling the engine by going in the exhaust. How can you do this on a normal car if you're in idle? Maintenance of the engine has nothing to do with it. The point is to prevent water from getting in the exhaust. Another thing to consider is that catalytic converters in the exhaust works at high temperatures. Getting it submerged in water can crack it. It's very expensive to replace.
    That's what most people believe in. Over-revving your engine will prevent water penetrating your exhaust manifold. BUT a driver doesn't have to over-rev his/her engine. The common well-maintained car with 800-1000 rpm can AND will prevent water sipping into the catalytic converter, besides it is mounted right after the headers. The muffler part will have to be over-filled with water before it can cause further damage. And yes, you can let a vehicle idle without over-revving the engine.

    Actually, it is the driver's choice whether you want your flywheel cracked while engaging your clutch in a subrmerged clutch/tranny assembly or much more cheaper option of changing a water-filled muffler.

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    magkano complete detail? yung sa loob lang? san?

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    CoolGal::: Try contacting theveed or BlackMagic, about their detailing shop along Araneta Ave. near SM Sta. Mesa. Di ko po kabisado ang price nila. :wink: Inquire about their complete interior detailing service.

  18. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungas
    That's what most people believe in. Over-revving your engine will prevent water penetrating your exhaust manifold. BUT a driver doesn't have to over-rev his/her engine. The common well-maintained car with 800-1000 rpm can AND will prevent water sipping into the catalytic converter, besides it is mounted right after the headers. The muffler part will have to be over-filled with water before it can cause further damage. And yes, you can let a vehicle idle without over-revving the engine.

    Actually, it is the driver's choice whether you want your flywheel cracked while engaging your clutch in a subrmerged clutch/tranny assembly or much more cheaper option of changing a water-filled muffler.
    Ungas,

    E di tama pala yung nagawa ko. Yan din kasi yung iniisip ko kasi baka pasukin ng tubig yung clutch.



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  19. FrankDrebin Guest
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    happy_gilmore,

    OT

    hehehe. IDOL!!!

    wala kasi akong makita nung 2 pang april boy...sina Vingo and Jimmy.

    hehehe. Baduy ko! :mrgreen:



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    FrankDrebin::: Yes, I have seen the negative side of clutch driving on flooded roads. And it did cost me an arm for that darn clutch assembly including the flywheel. :?

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