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  1. Join Date
    Mar 2008
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    #1
    mga boss, medyo nahihirapan ako ma-diagnose problem 2001 TOY ECHO. i'm having trouble shifting to third gear. specifically, quick shifting from 2nd gear to 3rd gear, it will not slot smoothly into 3rd. pero pag dahan-dahan or may pause bago ipasok, smooth naman sya.

    next problem is the clutch. every morning i have problems getting the gear out of 1st even with the clutch fully depressed. kailangan pa double-clutch, pero pag normal operating temp na, okay na sya.

    things i have done that have not solved the problem yet:
    1. changed gear oil to GL-5 75w-90 (recommended GL-4/GL-5 75w-90) pumino andar pero still problem shifting to 3rd
    2. replaced, flushed, bleed brake lines and clutch line with DOT 3 (recommended dot3)
    3. adjusted clutch engagement
    4. replaced shifter cable bushings, the cables itself seem fine

    since the echo shares the same engine/suspension with the toyota vios 03-07, i'm hoping someone has come across the problem, and the solution already.

    TIA tsikoteers!

  2. Join Date
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    #2
    Di kaya dapat na ibaba / overhaul ang clutch assy nyan?

  3. Join Date
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    #3
    Na encounter ko na din yung ganyang problem before, yung sinasabi mong sa umaga pag hindi pa warm up, mahirap magshift ng gear, tapos pag totally warm na ok na ishift, yung pressure plate or release bearing minsan ang nagiging cause niyan, better ipa baba mo muna transmission, nakapag replace ka na ba before ng clutch parts?

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    #4
    yep yung clutch. sh*t, sabi na nga ba't dapat pinalitan na kasabay yung pressure plate na yun... thanks sa advice mga boss

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    #5
    ^^ Dapat talaga sir kasabay yung pressure plate sa katagalan yan problem expose sa init yan tendency hindi na equal yung mga fingers ng pressure plate para ipress yung clutch lining.

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    #6
    Quote Originally Posted by KIANTOT View Post
    ^^ Dapat talaga sir kasabay yung pressure plate sa katagalan yan problem expose sa init yan tendency hindi na equal yung mga fingers ng pressure plate para ipress yung clutch lining.
    sir nde kaya synchronizers ang problema?

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    #7
    Quote Originally Posted by s10pao View Post
    sir nde kaya synchronizers ang problema?
    Nabanggit kase ni TS na occasionaly lang tulad ng sa morning tapos kapag mainit na ok naman, kapag talagang synchronizers anytime hirap ishift ng gear, kahit pa bago clutch assembly, base lang sir sa na experience ko

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    #8
    Quote Originally Posted by KIANTOT View Post
    Nabanggit kase ni TS na occasionaly lang tulad ng sa morning tapos kapag mainit na ok naman, kapag talagang synchronizers anytime hirap ishift ng gear, kahit pa bago clutch assembly, base lang sir sa na experience ko
    ok. binase ko lang dun sa 1st observation nya tapos specific pa na 2nd to 3rd gear shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s10pao View Post
    ok. binase ko lang dun sa 1st observation nya tapos specific pa na 2nd to 3rd gear shift.
    Nung time dati kase sa akin noon sir ng masira synchronizer talagang nakikipag buno ka sa kambyo, pumasok man talagang sabit yung tunog "tug" tapos consistent talaga, transmission ng 4BC2

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    #10
    Quote Originally Posted by KIANTOT View Post
    Nung time dati kase sa akin noon sir ng masira synchronizer talagang nakikipag buno ka sa kambyo, pumasok man talagang sabit yung tunog "tug" tapos consistent talaga, transmission ng 4BC2
    magkano inabot palit ng ng synchro?

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