Squeking sound and lagatok sa pang ilalim

[zach09]

Chief i need your help. My car is a lancer 93' model and i bought it 2nd hand after a few months mejo lumabas na yung kalampag ng front suspension, so i decided to get some advices to one of the automative shops near our place and was advice to replace shocks ball joint and bushing

nawala siya after a day then on the next day nakakarinig ako ng lagatok sa right side and squeeking sa left side but not really sure kung san talaga nanggagaling ang squeeking pero yung lagatok 100% sure ako nasa right side

nagpa check ako uli and ask 3 shops for opinions the

shop number 1

(lagatok right side )
shocks daw and problema na mejo nag doubt ako dahil sa kakapalit lang ng shocks, (at squeeeking sound )
sabi shocks din daw at the back

shop number 2 ( lagatok velocity daw sa front right side)
and squeeking sound is sa assembly bushing rare

shop number 3 ( walang findings sa lagatok di daw nila naririnig
and the squeeking sound is front left assembly suspension daw kailangan palitan

pls help me or if u can refer me to a very reliable shop that cant remove the squeeking and lagatok sound

[washburn]

zee o cruven type mo nalang sa search

[zach09]

zee o cruven type mo nalang sa search

tnx for that info chief

additional info about the lagatok sound

when we checkd the right front suspension the mechanic found some greese sobrang dami and yung boots sira na nabasa ko sa ibang thread na CV daw problema nun, kasi minsan pag lumiliko ako lumalagutok o kahit straight and takbo at uneven yung daan paminsan minsan lumalagutok

[danesjr]

pre bring it to cruven. have them check it.

had this problem last week. squeeking sound on my front right, turns out the the ball joint on the lower suspension arm has no more grease.
lancer rin auto ko.

[zach09]

pre bring it to cruven. have them check it.

had this problem last week. squeeking sound on my front right, turns out the the ball joint on the lower suspension arm has no more grease.
lancer rin auto ko.

sir ang sabi naman nung isang talyer baka masyado daw maliit ang sukat ng balljoint kaya nag sqesqueak kailangan daw iwelding ang butas na kinakabitan ng ball joint or talagang replace na yung arm suspension im not really sure about the name of the part pero dun nakakabit ang ball joint

is that possible?

[zach09]

mga fellow tsikoteers need your help, sana makapag bigay pa kayo ng other info regarding this issue. tnx po sa advices nyo chief.

[danesjr]

^^ did they remove the suspension arm before they told you that that is the problem? I'm not sure if welding would solve it. replace the whole arm might do the trick pero try having it re-greased first malay mo gumana. bring it to a competent shop, try cruven, as far as my ride is concerned, they know what they're doing

[zach09]

^^ did they remove the suspension arm before they told you that that is the problem? I'm not sure if welding would solve it. replace the whole arm might do the trick pero try having it re-greased first malay mo gumana. bring it to a competent shop, try cruven, as far as my ride is concerned, they know what they're doing

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boss danejr tnx much for the info, actually they didn't remove the suspension arm, hint lang nila na posibleng suspension arm dahil kakapalit ko lang ng brand new na ball joints at bushings, ill try cruven, baka kaya nila remejuhan kasi isang advice nung talyer kung di welding replace talaga ang suspension arm which will cost me 1.2k for the arm and 750 for the labor plus camber allignment 1,200

diba standard naman ang mga sukat ng ball joints bakit sinasabi nila baka daw maliit ang nabili kung size ng balljoint kaya nag sqesqueak

[washburn]

check mo din power steering fluid mo baka nagleak (based on my experience)
weird kasi sakin yung nagkakaleak nababasa yun CV ball joint (pati yung parang boot) lakas talaga ng squeak sound parang anfra na tunog so yung napa fix ko na yung tulo (replaced hose) ayun nawala hangang ngyon ok na
lancer din car ko bro pizza nga lang
try mo rin pala i-jack ang affected area tapos test drive mo kung nabawasan o nawala yung squeak sound baka re-grease lang yan
cruven bro ok paestimate ka muna, mag road test din kayo para ok

[zach09]

check mo din power steering fluid mo baka nagleak (based on my experience)
weird kasi sakin yung nagkakaleak nababasa yun CV ball joint (pati yung parang boot) lakas talaga ng squeak sound parang anfra na tunog so yung napa fix ko na yung tulo (replaced hose) ayun nawala hangang ngyon ok na
lancer din car ko bro pizza nga lang
try mo rin pala i-jack ang affected area tapos test drive mo kung nabawasan o nawala yung squeak sound baka re-grease lang yan
cruven bro ok paestimate ka muna, mag road test din kayo para ok

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tnx chief sa info, mine is just m/t, nag pa check up ako sa dalawang talyer, and they see no problem with the velocity kasi pag tinetest drive nila at todo liko wala siyang lagatok, with regards to the lagatok sound on the right side baka bushings lang daw, but how come may grease na nagkalat at yung boots mejo punit na?

sa squeking sound yung ball joint mejo maluwag daw, pinakita sa akin ng mechanic yung pwesto ng ball joint at mejo maluwag nga yung pagkapwesto na sa suspension arm. sa tingin nyo yun kaya ang dahilan ng squeaking sa front left suspension ko?

[zach09]

mga fellow tsikoteers still looking for the best solution for my problem hope you could post your ideas here tnx

[v6dreamer]

Kung ball joint ang sira papalitan mo na at sa sinasabi nilang i-weld yong joint thats a big no no. Dont ask, dont tell to those people, just walk away and never to go back, they are not for real. Now, regarding your cv joint(half shaft) kung punit na ang boot lalabas lahat ng grease meaning time to replace that boot or palit nalang nang bago CV joint. If budget is an option pa rebuilt mo na, make sure na alam at magaling ang gagawa.

If your car is 5 yrs or older at marami ng lubak at rough road ang dinadaanan ng kotse mo it is advisable na palitan na lahat ang rubber bushing na related sa suspension(ex. control arm bushing) dahil podpud na ng mga iyan. I dont know how much it gonna cost but its not cheap either. Kung papalitan mo, its very important that ALWAYS in PAIR (magkabilaan).

[zach09]

Kung ball joint ang sira papalitan mo na at sa sinasabi nilang i-weld yong joint thats a big no no. Dont ask, dont tell to those people, just walk away and never to go back, they are not for real. Now, regarding your cv joint(half shaft) kung punit na ang boot lalabas lahat ng grease meaning time to replace that boot or palit nalang nang bago CV joint. If budget is an option pa rebuilt mo na, make sure na alam at magaling ang gagawa.

If your car is 5 yrs or older at marami ng lubak at rough road ang dinadaanan ng kotse mo it is advisable na palitan na lahat ang rubber bushing na related sa suspension(ex. control arm bushing) dahil podpud na ng mga iyan. I dont know how much it gonna cost but its not cheap either. Kung papalitan mo, its very important that ALWAYS in PAIR (magkabilaan).

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tnx v6dreamer

regarding doon sa welding so i have to stay away from those guys then so what will do with the squeking then should a replace the suspension arm? para mawala ang squeaking sound? or is there any other alternative?

sa CV joint naman boots lang ang papalitan right? how about bushing on the CV joints? or is it much better kung buong CV joint na ang papalitan?

any suggestions on shops who does good repacking on CV joints?

[mazingerZ]

Do not in any circumstance have any of your suspension parts (ball joints, rack ends, tie rods) welded. Mga bobo ang mga mekaniko na nagsusuggest na iweld mo, have your suspension system checked by a reputable shop to be sure (cruve, speedy).

[zach09]

Do not in any circumstance have any of your suspension parts (ball joints, rack ends, tie rods) welded. Mga bobo ang mga mekaniko na nagsusuggest na iweld mo, have your suspension system checked by a reputable shop to be sure (cruve, speedy).

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tnx for the tip mazingerZ, kasi when they lifted my car and they shown me the ball joint im not sure kung ball joint ang name ng part na yun pero pinakita sa akin na mejo maluwag nga ang pagka fit sa suspension arm kaya di ko alam if the arm needs raplacement, kasi sabi nila posibleng lumaki daw ang butas or maliit lang daw ang size ng ball joint which nag doubt ako kasi standard naman ang size ng ball joint. i guess last option is to go to cruven

[mazingerZ]

Heads up lang bro, di naman aabot ng P1k ang isang pair ng ball joint. Might as well have it replaced. Sama mo na rin lang rack ends mga almost ganyang price din. Ball joints AFAIK would be deemed damaged na if gumagalaw na (hindi na stiff yung parang nipple).

[zach09]

Heads up lang bro, di naman aabot ng P1k ang isang pair ng ball joint. Might as well have it replaced. Sama mo na rin lang rack ends mga almost ganyang price din. Ball joints AFAIK would be deemed damaged na if gumagalaw na (hindi na stiff yung parang nipple).

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tnx chief, but the ball joints are newly replaced, yung rack end san ba yung naka locate kasi as far as i know kakapalit lang ng mga pang ilalim ko shocks ball joints and bushings sa front. pati ata rack end kakaplit ko lang but not sure kung yun yun, all was replaced a month ago all brand new replacements nga lang hindi orignal , after replacing dun na lumabas ang lagatok at squeaking sound

yung ball joint yun yung nakakabit sa suspension arm na mukhang joystick type am i correct chief?

[zach09]

naghanap po ako ng pics ng ball joint tama nga po ako yung yung kakapalit lang pero mali ata ang description ko yun ba yung nakakabit sa suspension arm

[zach09]

or ung ball joint na yun nakakabit sa tierod, so wat part is connected to the suspension arm?

[mazingerZ]

Ball joint (as per my vehicle ha), is connected to the suspension arm. Tie rod ends are connected to the rack ends (hence some people call them "tie rods") which in turn are connected to the steering watchamacallit (i forgot the term).