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  1. Join Date
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    #111
    Magsama nalang lagi ng mekaniko every time gagamitin kotse.

    Dala nya dapat lahat ng tools.
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    #112
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Magsama nalang lagi ng mekaniko every time gagamitin kotse.

    Dala nya dapat lahat ng tools.
    may support vehicle nakasunod everytime lumabas

    driver/mechanic + helper

    talyer-on-wheels

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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ayaw gamitin ang sasakyan kasi pasak was used to repair a tire

    takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka ma-over tighten ang nuts

    takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka matumba ang jack
    I'll explain the logic.

    if I researched last Dec 28 before going to thse kamuning service center and knew bawal lagay ng oil yung hole ng pasak. Ma stop ko sana procedure and go to other shop with patch and save 30,000 for all 4 tires change tomorrow. Utang ko pa naman. I still have to pay for unpaid credit card, pay city hall business tax, pay Psbank flexiloan, etc.

    Also I read in the manual the following that the tire nuts must be torqued at 120 newton.meter

    tire-nut-torque.jpg

    I bought the following torque wrench at lazada.

    torque-wrench.jpg

    Very important ang torque ng nut kasi you don't want to under tighten or over tighten it. If pa change ko all 4 tires bukas, ayaw ko ma overtighten nila using hydraulic impact wrench. And making me spend another round for repair of all the nuts and bolts. That's why I need to know ano torque using such tool. If off. Plan ko bigay io yun torque wrench ko sa vulganizer and let them use it to tighten the nuts.

    And until now. Wala pa nag suggest saan meron experienced na mechanic/vulganizer who can install the mushroom patch. That's why since 6 years na rin tires. Palit ko na all tires even mag utang pa ako. I regret tagala I didn't research bawal pasak with oil dati. So most important tomorrow or next week is sure tama na torque sa nuts gamit para hindi ma damage yun bolt section ng wheel, kasi wala na ako budget. Parang meron pa omicron isa ko family member so I don't know how much more to loan. Yun lang. Thanks for all the help. I won't post anymore. After they put the tires. I have to go back to making a living so mabayad ko all utang.

    (the following is reference of the importance of proper torques of tyre nuts

    Retorquing Lug Nuts After You’ve Had Your Tires Replaced or Removed Is Crucial - News | South Hanover Automotive Tire Pros in Hanover, PA, Spring Grove, PA, and McSherrystown, PA

    Lug nuts keep a wheel securely attached to the hub—which means they are an extremely important component of a vehicle. However, lug nuts can only do their job correctly if a tire technician applies the proper amount of torque to them after tires are replaced or removed. Here are some general tips on torquing and retorquing:

    Torque is the amount of force someone applies to a lug nut when they’re tightening it. It is generally listed as a measurement known as pound-feet.

    If lug nuts are improperly tightened, they can cause serious problems, including distorting the stud, damaging brakes, and losing a wheel.

    Lug nuts must be torqued to the manufacturer’s recommended values, and they must be re-torqued to those values after driving approximately 50 to 100 miles on your new tires after the tire service.
    Both under and over tightening can be dangerous. Different vehicles require different amounts of torque in order to properly tighten their lug nuts without causing any damage.

    To tighten lug nuts correctly, a torque wrench is required. The torque wrench should be set to half of the required torque at first, and the lug nuts should be tightened using this setting. When all of the lug nuts are tightened, the vehicle should be lowered completely, and the lug nuts can then be tightened to the specified torque.

    Every driver should know the proper amount of torque for their specific vehicle—it’s listed in your owner’s manual.

    Ensure the lug nuts are checked often to keep them at this measurement. The lug nuts on a wheel must be tightened in a specific order to provide the proper torque. A wheel with five or ten lug nuts is tightened in a star-shaped pattern, while one with only four lug nuts makes an X shape.

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    #114
    Quote Originally Posted by k_leos View Post
    I'll explain the logic.

    if I researched last Dec 28 before going to thse kamuning service center and knew bawal lagay ng oil yung hole ng pasak. Ma stop ko sana procedure and go to other shop with patch and save 30,000 for all 4 tires change tomorrow. Utang ko pa naman. I still have to pay for unpaid credit card, pay city hall business tax, pay Psbank flexiloan, etc.

    Also I read in the manual the following that the tire nuts must be torqued at 120 newton.meter

    tire-nut-torque.jpg

    I bought the following torque wrench at lazada.

    torque-wrench.jpg

    Very important ang torque ng nut kasi you don't want to under tighten or over tighten it. If pa change ko all 4 tires bukas, ayaw ko ma overtighten nila using hydraulic impact wrench. And making me spend another round for repair of all the nuts and bolts. That's why I need to know ano torque using such tool. If off. Plan ko bigay io yun torque wrench ko sa vulganizer and let them use it to tighten the nuts.

    And until now. Wala pa nag suggest saan meron experienced na mechanic/vulganizer who can install the mushroom patch. That's why since 6 years na rin tires. Palit ko na all tires even mag utang pa ako. I regret tagala I didn't research bawal pasak with oil dati. So most important tomorrow or next week is sure tama na torque sa nuts gamit para hindi ma damage yun bolt section ng wheel, kasi wala na ako budget. Parang meron pa omicron isa ko family member so I don't know how much more to loan. Yun lang. Thanks for all the help. I won't post anymore. After they put the tires. I have to go back to making a living so mabayad ko all utang.
    may your troubled soul finally find some rest, after replacing those four tyres.

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    #115
    walang sumasagot tungkol sa mushroom patch coz karamihan dito di naka gamit niyan

    coz most people here do not overthink pasak or patch sa gulong nila

    ang importante di na sumisingaw

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    most of us here aren't so OC (or neurotic i'm not sure what term to use) that we need to see nuts tightened with a torque wrench para magkaroon ng peace of mind

    most of us here are content seeing nuts tightened with ordinary tire wrench + extension (tubo)

    we don't lose sleep over that

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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post

    most of us here aren't so OC (or neurotic i'm not sure what term to use) that we need to see nuts tightened with a torque wrench para magkaroon ng peace of mind

    most of us here are content seeing nuts tightened with ordinary tire wrench + extension (tubo)

    we don't lose sleep over that
    once, i had my tyre serviced.
    the worker did it, then tightened the lugs using the ordinary cross-wretch, without my observing him.
    "ulitin mo ang pag-higpit, bossing. madalas kasi ako mag-slex."
    inulit niya.
    his supervisor had no choice but to agree.

    we each have our little quirks, kahit papano.
    heh heh.


    another time naman,
    the tyre man used a breaker bar (extension bar) with the cross-wretch, to tighten the lug nuts..
    the next time i had to remove that wheel,
    hirap na hirap kaming luwagan!
    my rule of thumb from then on, "no more breaker bars when tightening".
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 2nd, 2022 at 04:30 PM.

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    #117
    K.I.S.S.


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    #118
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    kleo,

    mukhang hindi ka na nakakatulog jan magnewnew year na stress na stress ka. Dalhin mo muna doon sa sinabi ko 150 lang sedan 200 ata 250 pag monstero / fortuner size gulong.

    masyado na advance mga gulong. Sa kotse ko ngayon litaw na alambre ginagamit ko pa din. City driving naman ako.

    6years ago nga bumiyak na portion gulong dinadrive ko pa din habang hindi nagfaflat. Ganyan ako kakuripot hahaha!!!!

    Wag ka muna bumili bagong gulong. Ipacheck mo sa vulcanizing dahil sa dami ng experience alam nila kung tatagal or risky na.
    kleo,

    last post ko dito above dec31. Dapat motto mo sa kotse drive & forget. Sobra advance ng gulong. Kita mo nga suggestion ko vulcanizing complete gamit nasa 150pesos patch. Tindahan ng gulong yun. Sa ncr ewan ko kung meron pa mas mumura jan eh maayos ang store. Yung may,-ari ang angas ng gulong kaso i look down pag diesel.

    wag mo gayahin yung mga baliw na baliw sa kotse example magpakarga fuel station tapos lalabas kotse pupunta sa harap tapos parang timang sinisipat-sipat hahaha!!!!

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    #119
    complete gamit?
    all you need is the dumidikit na patch, the horizontal half-drum filled with water, and the tyre-removing equipment/machine.

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    #120
    ^
    yun nga doc, tinatanggal gulong sa mags yung pinapaikot. For just 150pesos in true qc.

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