milleage reading.. can be changed?

[seonadancing]

Yun corolla namin nag stop yun odo when we had the clutch disc replaced. Don't know what happened, may na disconnect siguro.

[nugundam93]

usually yung cable daw ng speedo is connected to the tranny. when they replaced the clutch disc, may nakalimutan sila malamang na ibalik ikabit.

[onewaytrip]

i was at buendia auto center one time. i asked about the mileage of an exsior in display. sabi nung mama, "88." pagtingin ko sa odo, nakita ko "68." sorry if this post is conclusive. hindi ko naman sigurado. pero marami na rin ako nabasa about tampered used cars, both digital and analog odo. mayroon din dito sa better living, ung ayala shuttle driver na naka-barong, pansin ko mukhang inistop niya ang speedometer niya. sa mga may balak pa mandaya ng odo, baka karmahin kayo sana! hahaha.

[nugundam93]

eek. sa levitown ka, onewaytrip? la lang. hehehehe.

anyway, back on topic, true, masama nga mandaya ng odo kung ibebenta mo rin.

[Karding]

Kung digital, the only way that I KNOW and had a first hand experience is by replacing the entire odometer.

Here's how it is typically done, I've posted this a while ago.

1. buy a spare odometer
2. use the spare odometer when making long trips or whenever you want to preserve the meter.
3. install the orig odometer and have your car serviced to CASA. CASA record will reflect the orig odometer which is not regularly used
4. After CASA service, drive for 3,000 km and put the spare odometer
5. keep driving but "log" the mileage so you know when to properly change the oil
6. Have another shop (NON-CASA) or DIY oil change with your spare odometer
7. after three months, go back to CASA with the orig odometer

viola, low mileage car and then sell it. Hence, the logbook you found.

kahit JDM pa ang spare odometer, it doesnt matter dahil gagamitin mo lang naman yon to rack up the mileage. Alternate the non-CASA to CASA service para hindi halata ng CASA na ambilis mo bumalik although one month pa lang since your last oil change. Or you can make an excuse that you like to have the oil changed every 1,000km kahit na naka 5,000km ka na for a month.

[nugundam93]

pero diba some cars store the actual odo reading on their ECU?

[Karding]

pero diba some cars store the actual odo reading on their ECU?

like what car? or buy a surplus ECU or reflash. Eh di 0km pa di ba? hahaha

usually yung cable daw ng speedo is connected to the tranny. when they replaced the clutch disc, may nakalimutan sila malamang na ibalik ikabit.

http://www.boss302.com/speedo.htm

kapag pinalitan ng dash malamang na-reset na yun anu?

hindi ma-re-reset ang odometer kahit alisin mo pa ang odometer itself. (disconnect the cable behind the odometer, the reading will be the same.)

[Alpha_One]

Kung digital, the only way that I KNOW and had a first hand experience is by replacing the entire odometer.

Here's how it is typically done, I've posted this a while ago.

1. buy a spare odometer
2. use the spare odometer when making long trips or whenever you want to preserve the meter.
3. install the orig odometer and have your car serviced to CASA. CASA record will reflect the orig odometer which is not regularly used
4. After CASA service, drive for 3,000 km and put the spare odometer
5. keep driving but "log" the mileage so you know when to properly change the oil
6. Have another shop (NON-CASA) or DIY oil change with your spare odometer
7. after three months, go back to CASA with the orig odometer

viola, low mileage car and then sell it. Hence, the logbook you found.

kahit JDM pa ang spare odometer, it doesnt matter dahil gagamitin mo lang naman yon to rack up the mileage. Alternate the non-CASA to CASA service para hindi halata ng CASA na ambilis mo bumalik although one month pa lang since your last oil change. Or you can make an excuse that you like to have the oil changed every 1,000km kahit na naka 5,000km ka na for a month.

May pinakita dati sa Auto Motor&Sport (sa Channel 25) na nagmomodify ng odo. Yung equipment niya de-pindot lang napapalitan yung reading!

Put it this way: given the right equipment and knowledge, a digital odo is EASIER to tamper with than an analog odo (de-pindot lang imbis na de-ikot). I like the mechanical odos, they're cute heheheh.

[Karding]

May pinakita dati sa Auto Motor&Sport (sa Channel 25) na nagmomodify ng odo. Yung equipment niya de-pindot lang napapalitan yung reading!

Put it this way: given the right equipment and knowledge, a digital odo is EASIER to tamper with than an analog odo (de-pindot lang imbis na de-ikot). I like the mechanical odos, they're cute heheheh.

for a normal driver/owner/seller, buying that fancy stuff isnt cost effective. Maybe for most dealerships then can afford that since their ROI on that equipment is faster. pero para kay juan delacruz, spare odometer lang ang katapat nyan ;)

using a non-CASA will ensure that your orig mileage is not recorded on their networked records.

[nugundam93]

karding: ahhhh. hmmm. hehehehe.

[Karding]

speaking of which, does anybody needs a 7th gen civic odometer? I never get to use it dahil I sold the Civic after 7-months. :evillaugh

its a good spare just in case your blow your odometer fuse and resets to zero ;)

[ian_rex]

=Our 96 Civic now has about 165K, which is used almost everyday.

ot lang. so far ano na ang mga naging problema mo sa car mo, i hope you don't mind if i ask. ako kasi nearing 150K na e. so far ok pa naman for a 10-year old car (mine is turning 10 this april! )

[Alpha_One]

for a normal driver/owner/seller, buying that fancy stuff isnt cost effective. Maybe for most dealerships then can afford that since their ROI on that equipment is faster. pero para kay juan delacruz, spare odometer lang ang katapat nyan ;)

using a non-CASA will ensure that your orig mileage is not recorded on their networked records.

Yes, but the point was that digital odos CAN be easily tampered with. Computers may be high tech but they're far from secure. For example, computerizing the elections can make cheating completely transparent even easier than it could prevent it.

[Karding]

Yes, but the point was that digital odos CAN be easily tampered with. Computers may be high tech but they're far from secure. For example, computerizing the elections can make cheating completely transparent even easier than it could prevent it.

Wasnt that my point as well?

Anyway, Im still selling my 7th gen civic odometer in case you dont have the skills of alpha_one to tamper the computerized equipment

[surewin]

before i bought my civic, me tiningnan akong 99 civic sa used car agent, 48,000km daw ang mileage...tiningnan ko tama naman reading, pero nung sinilip ko ang screw dun sa ilalim sa may instrument panel, me gasgas na yung ulo ng screw! it only means na tampered yung mileage ng car.di ko na lang sinabi dun sa ahente para di sya mapahiya.bagets na fil-chi yung ahente.

[the_wildthing]

before i bought my civic, me tiningnan akong 99 civic sa used car agent, 48,000km daw ang mileage...tiningnan ko tama naman reading, pero nung sinilip ko ang screw dun sa ilalim sa may instrument panel, me gasgas na yung ulo ng screw! it only means na tampered yung mileage ng car.di ko na lang sinabi dun sa ahente para di sya mapahiya.bagets na fil-chi yung ahente.

Puwede rin namang nagpa-lagay sya ng indiglo(?) or CF-like panel...

[kmo]

sa alam ko pag sinaksak yug computer lalabas talga yung tunay na milage coz sa volvo 850 ng frend ko ganun e sira na odo nya sa harap pero apg sinaksak na sa comp lumalabas tunay na milage pero since el yung lancer wala atang pang computer yun

[1D4LV]

ang masakit neto, yung parang nangyari sa friend ko. may nabili sya na oto na around 30000 kms pa lang.

tapos nung 3rd year ng oto nya, naputulan sa ng timing belt. yun pala, ang actual na tinakbo na nung oto nya is around 100k. yung nasa oto nya is around 60000 k pa lang.

nakita lang nya yung record sa casa nung pinaservice nya. so that means, inatras yung odo nya ng more than 30000 k

[badkuk]

i read a story on edmunds.com a few years back. writer sya na nag undercover used car salesman. there's this guy that "specializes" in odometer "rewinding". i think a power drill was involved

[fireblade]

i was at buendia auto center one time. i asked about the mileage of an exsior in display. sabi nung mama, "88." pagtingin ko sa odo, nakita ko "68." sorry if this post is conclusive. hindi ko naman sigurado. pero marami na rin ako nabasa about tampered used cars, both digital and analog odo. mayroon din dito sa better living, ung ayala shuttle driver na naka-barong, pansin ko mukhang inistop niya ang speedometer niya. sa mga may balak pa mandaya ng odo, baka karmahin kayo sana! hahaha.

OT : You must be referring to the shuttle driver near Big C along Russia Street. Yup he is normally in Barong, anyway I am also from Levitown.

Back on topic:

Yes digital meter can now be tampered especially by used car dealers. Hold on to your seats but even service booklets have tampered entries. I am talking to experience. Saw this really nice Rav owned by actor Marvin Agustin in a gas station being sold. A week later it was already in CarsR US along Edsa near Greenhills with a different meter reading. Saw the service booklet and verified with Toyota, whoaaaa , the entries are fake. Moral of the story, validate the service booklet with the casa. Bought a GLI before on a weekend and made a contract with the seller that if the warrranty booklet has been tampered he will return the money. Galing daw sa Ayala Alabang yung dating mayari kaya mababa yung metro at may service booklet pa, guess what I returned the car two days later after talking to the original owner and Toyota Alabang. Bottomline, be very wise and resourceful.