Caltex Havoline

[CLAVEL3699]

I read a thread sa other site na pangit daw ang havoline nagcause daw nang leak sa gasket.

I notice when I use havoline nagkaroon na nga ako nang leak sa gasket nang oil pan ko pero very minimal lang naman.

I hope u help me.

Ano bang magandang gamitin sa Civic LXi '96 mileage ko kasi nasa 85t na.

[1D4LV]

i think hindi dahil sa havoline ang reason kung bakit nag-leleak yung gasket. it is because medyo hi-mileage na yung oto mo.

just use mineral-based oils, imho.

[CLAVEL3699]

What product is a mineral based oil?

[CLAVEL3699]

What product is a mineral based oil?

[nitrox]

i had the same problem with my civic previously. but the leak was caused by a faulty gasket. i believe the havoline is a thinner oil, thus it leaks through the a faulty gasket more easily compared to a 'thicker' oil.

[the_wildthing]

There was this thread somewhere (or maybe it was another site) that confirms what happy_gilmore and nitrox say.

Mineral based = not synthetic.
Havoline Energy I think is semi?-synthetic.

If you're driving like most people (meaning you're not using it for races) stick with mineral-based if you have an older engine and just follow the replacement sched.

[CLAVEL3699]

Im using Havoline formula lang. Mineral base ba to.

Ano yung mas thicker yung oil na magandang gamitin?

How much kaya papalit nang gasket sa oil pan?

Thanks.

[the_wildthing]

Hmmm...as it turns out, Havoline Formula is mineral based.

See: http://www.havoline.com/products/aa/faq.html#formula

But it's probably thinner than others hence it leaks through a faulty gasket. Not sure though how much a replacement will cost...

[1D4LV]

clavel, wildthing is probably right. havo formula is mineral based. so there must be something wrong with your gaskets.

have you tried other oil (mineral based) brands like shell (yung dilaw), etc....?

[chieffy]

Havoline Formula (20W-50) is different from Havoline Energy (5W-30)

happy_gimore is right...medyo high-mileage na kotse ni CLAVEL3699 kaya medyo maluwag na engine components niyan...use thicker oil like Havoline Formula(with higher viscosity) para di mag leak...

always check the manual kung ano recommended na viscosity ng engine oil para sa kotse nyo to avoid unnecessary hassles and expenses ;)

[CLAVEL3699]

Im using havoline formula but may leak pa rin sya. Maybe i have broken gasket very minimal nga lang sya. I dont have to add oil every weak.

Ano kaya mas magandang ipalit dun?

Shell brand ano kaya dun?

Castrol kaya?

Thanks.

[1D4LV]

clavel, an advise..... try mo muna other brands... shell is also ok, yung yellow... castrol din is also ok, basta yung mineral...

kung may tulo pa din, i think its time to have your gaskets replaced.. you may not need to add oil every week, pero ang punta nyan eh dyan din...

[chieffy]

if the other brand has the same viscosity as Havoline Formula, tatagas din iyan...papalitan mo na lang ng gasket ;)

[CLAVEL3699]

Thanks mga bro.

[jtdc]

just like to ask. as of now i run on Castrol GTX w/ Synthetic Guard. since my engine isn't that new, is it possible if on my next chage oil (due next month) i use Shell Helix Plus (the blue one), which is semi-synthetic. what good does "synthetic-ness" do? does it provide better engine performance and lesser gas consumption? i am leaning towards the fully synthetic one pero i'm worried baka tumagas/tumapon lang mahal pa naman yun. wala naman kahit ni-isang tagas or drop of oil, so i think ok naman ang seals ko.

any inputs from the gurus?

[jackaroo]

jtdc,
A fully synthetic oil means the base oil is synthetic while a semi-synth oil has a mineral base with synthetic additives- a full synth is better.

In theory, a full synth gives superior protection against engine wear since it circulates faster when cold and doesn't break down when stressed by "hot" temps.

The gas savings is achieved by using thinner viscosities, ie, 10w30 but these can break down if mineral based thus the move toward synthetics when using thinner viscosities.

Try a 5w40 or 15w50 full synth if your engine manual allows it.

[jtdc]

a very nice read why synthetic oils are better preferred. actually, i do want synthetic, i'll check if the semi-synthetic would do fine first. read this on a break or so, its a long read, but very informative regarding ENGINE OILs. the explanations and points are so good, making me think to go ahead to synthetic straight.

http://mr2.com/TEXT/synth_oil.txt

if i went from mineral based straight to synthetic... is that okay?

[boybi]

medyo OT:

meron pa bang Havoline Energy na mineral based? puro synthetic ang nakikita ko sa mga caltex shops.

[jackaroo]

jtdc
I don't see any problem switching from mineral to synth- as long as the viscosity chosen is recommended for your engine.

Some reviews point out that semi-synth oils are not worth it since their base oil is mineral, which means the advantages of synthetics are not utilized.

[mojako]

whats the cheapes synthetic oil ba?