adding oil coolers...

[alwayz_yummy]

may it be engine oil or additional atf oil cooler..what are possible effects/improvements na makikita sa engine/a/t performance?

anu mas effective, yung dinadaanan ng tubig or yung nakamount sa harap, at airflow lang magpapalaming or better kung both?

madali lang ba lagyan ang makinang walang oil-cooler?

[rion]

since no expert replied yet, allow me to share my research on this A.Y.

after the intercooler project, I was thinking of adding an oil cooler too.

may it be engine oil or additional atf oil cooler..what are possible effects/improvements na makikita sa engine/a/t performance?

the atf cooler will just prolong the atf life.

anu mas effective, yung dinadaanan ng tubig or yung nakamount sa harap, at airflow lang magpapalaming or better kung both?

if you saw this article in autorepair.about.com saying that atf cooler attached to the main engine radiator is questionable. like our aces...

for the oil cooler, longer oil life and cooler engine they say...

for the aces, they say the original oil filter has an oil cooler too. some has adaptor on the oil filler and also some with seperate plate stack bolted to the block that acts like a cooler too.

madali lang ba lagyan ang makinang walang oil-cooler?

the biggest question is the pressure... we need a expert's advice on this.

for instance, the aces, it could consume 4 meters of hose if you want it mount up front.

[wildthing]

kung hindi naman abused ang tranny (like the vehicle is used regularly for towing or carrying heavy loads or running on fast speeds often) hindi naman kailangan ng oil cooler yun.

[alwayz_yummy]

pressure nga, baka di mag-circulate ng maganda...sa a/t pinagiisipan ko pa kasi in the future palit to m/t na ako.. engine at intercooler nalang matitirang prob..

kung may way na malagyan ng oil cooler ang walang oil-cooler na engine, share naman...(baka kasi iba ang pagka-design ng nasa 4d56 ng L200/pajero...

[lolo pepe]

baka meron kang makuhang info dito:

http://perma-cool.com/Catalog/Contents.htm

[rion]

I was thinking of using our Pajero's atf cooler nga eh... since we no longer need it after the a/t to m/t convertion. kaya lang baka magkakaproblema sa pressure.

*wildthing: tama po. I don't think it's necessary unless you have overheating problems...

peru nakaka-enjoy lang kasi mag DIY sa bakuran mo...

[rion]

I found some pics from a person who added extra atf cooler in his liteace.

in front of the AC condensor using steel tubing


Sending unit in the pan


is there any tsikoteers here who have added engine oil coolers?

[speedyfix]

you won't loose pressure as long as you keep the max level of the fluid correct.

[niky]

Yup... just add additional fluid to counter the amount of extra tubing you'll need to put in.

You don't really need an oil cooler or ATF cooler unless your engine experiences periods of high-stress usage (racing, heavy loads uphill for long periods of time).

The big issue is how well you do it, and how secure the cooler itself is. Poor fitment and construction could lead to oil leaks, which could lead to fires or overheating.

I've been thinking about doing this for the car, but I don't really need it... yet...

[rion]

salamat may experts advice narin.

this looks like an encouragement. the oil pressure for alwayz_yummy's ride is 86 psi max pala.

or how about hooking it after the turbo oil cooler lines? para mas safe. kasi seperate oil lines naman ang turbo...

tama po sir niky. nakaka enjoy lang kasi kapag DIY if riskfree of course. at mas bagay pa nga ito sa ride mo eh.

[alwayz_yummy]

may nakita ko parang round thingsa may bottom left side sa liteace, katabi nung steering gearbox ba yun--> part where the steering column is connected and its connected to the rack-pinion...

parang oil cooler na cylindrical in shape.. pag may time, i'll remove the 2 hoses na nakakabit to verify.. kung oil cooler nga, papalitan ko na yun ng mas effective type...

atf-->not much ako dito, having plans to convert naman to 5-MT 4wd e...or kung tinamad ko palitan, siguro pwede nalang ba ko mag-slice sa one of the lines na going to the lower part ng radiator para diver ko sa air-oil-cooler? and which line ang ssplice-san ko--> "going to the radiator" or "comming from the radiator"

[rion]

please take a pic for that A.Y.

The plan of using our pajero ATF cooler to be a engine oil cooler is not wise after all.

inspecting the pajero's oil cooler, the lines are all steel pipe and the valve (openings) have those pressure protection thingy, while the ATF runs on rubber hose only and no pressure protections. and to think the Pajero has only 80Psi max.

I'm still wondering if using the Turbo Oil cooler pipe lines is a safer idea to hook the oil cooler.

what do you think guys?

[alwayz_yummy]

will do, teka, under immediate repair ulit-->bad trip na waterpump di pa sumabay noon!

[speedyfix]

you should use fittings for the ends para sure no leaks. but that means your oil cooler will have to have the same which most surplus ones do not have.

[joey]

I found some pics from a person who added extra atf cooler in his liteace.

in front of the AC condensor using steel tubing


Sending unit in the pan


is there any tsikoteers here who have added engine oil coolers?

me! sa suzuki carry all van converted to 5k matic engine, adding oil cooler na pang VR galant in series sa oil coolr ng radiator. ok naman wlang psi drop even hose lang gamit ko sa performance wla naman nabago cguro minimal lang bka sa lifespan ng atf effective

[Si 06]

There is such a thing as normal operating temperature so temp below or above the normal operating temp of your car is not good. European cars temp go down when cruising in the 160-200kph range. Sustained high speed racing conditions for japanese cars maybe an oil cooler will help.

[rion]

thanks for the tip speedyfix.
*Joey: any plans adding engine oil cooler too?

when oil is hot, it actually loses huge amount of pressure. that explains multigrade... well I'm not into racing, but I'm always worried about overheating when I hear people experienced it in their similar vehicle to mine...

[joey]

thanks for the tip speedyfix.
*Joey: any plans adding engine oil cooler too?

when oil is hot, it actually loses huge amount of pressure. that explains multigrade... well I'm not into racing, but I'm always worried about overheating when I hear people experienced it in their similar vehicle to mine...

hindi na bro, when it comes to racing dun m mppkinabangan oilcooler in normal driving hind masyado. actually in my szuki with out atf cooler b4 ok na performance even it travels from here to matnog, sorsogon thats around 700 kilometers one way, 10-14 hrs drive bale 1400 balikan 3-4 times a year, ng may oil cooler na ung atf s totoo lang eh wala ako naramdaman pagbabago hehehe isip ko n lang minimal imprvement. sa racing malamang at syempre sa mga force induction engine mas dun kylangan (pero kakarera kaba ng matic tranny hehe)

[rion]

just like what the web is saying, ATF cooler will just extend your ATF life.

I'm just bit worried, I hear lot of people having overheating problems similar to our ride. and they are definetly not RACERS. just heavy towers...

Engine oil cooler might make the overheating problem a impossible word.

[speedyfix]

some sandwich plate adaptors have thermostats built in na so your oil does not pass through the cooler until the predetermined temp.