mabagal ba talaga ang Nissan Frontier?

[revoGSX]

mga tol,

i have an officemate and they sold their Nissan Frontier which is less than 1 year old (feb or march 2005 yata nabili), nabenta daw this month ng around 900K, brandnew price daw dati eh nasa 950K..

kaya nila binenta eh dahil mabagal daw, sinisisi nila yung 4x4 tranny at hirap daw sa arangkada..

ang sabi ko eh hindi naman pang-karera yung engine nya at malamang eh sanay sila sa mga medyo hi-powered cars/suvs.. mayaman kasi eh hehe..

ang mga dating kotse nila: (all were bought brandnew)
Toyota Rav4 - 1st gen 4x4 (nabenta na)
Toyota Rav4 - 2nd gen 4x4 (nabenta na)
Honda CRV 2nd gen (nabenta na)
Hyundai Starex (nabenta na)
Toyota Revo VX200 2004 (nabenta na)
BMW 5 series (nabenta na dahil twice na naghang yung computer daw)
Nissan Frontier 4x4 (eto daw yung mabagal)
..marami pa, hindi ko na maalala iba pa

Ang mga kotse nila ngayon: (all are bought brandnew)
2004 Nissan Serena (local and NOT from subic)
2004 Mazda Tribute V6
Nissan Patrol (yung katulad ng kay odell)
Volvo Wagon 4x4, forget the model
2005 Nissan Xtrail 4x4 250x
2005 Mitsubishi Grandis
2005 Toyota Hilux 4x2 2.7VVTi (2weeks pa lang)
.. meron pa yata, hindi ko na rin maalala lahat..

the above list is not a joke.. marami kasi business eh

nung una eh kino-convince ko na mag 2005 Hilux 4x4 na lang sila dahil meron intercooler at nasa 340Nm ang torque rating nya, and based sa mga nabasa kong review eh okay naman ang power nya, i haven't drive any pick-ups so hindi ko ma-judge..

ang tanong ko is mabagal ba talaga ang Nissan Frontier? Parang hindi ako naniniwala, siguro mabagal ng konti..... pero sure ako na mas mabagal pa ang revo ko hehe

yung tatay nila kasi eh hindi gaano technical, so the torque rating might be unknown to him and ang conclusion na agad eh mabagal ang diesel na 4x4 at hirap sa arangkada...

ni-explain ko nga rin sa officemate ko na nasanay sila sa mga malalakas na engine like nung V6..

so they sold the Frontier and bought a 2005 Hilux 4x2 2.7vvti gas M/T, ayaw na nila ng 4x4 hehe..

ilan ba ang engine types ng Nissan Frontier? their HP and torque rating? and curb, gross weight?

[vinj]

If it's the 4x4 a/t, it could be mabagal sa arankada due to the gearing and additional weight, especially when compared with the newer turbo diesel engines of the Hilux and DMax; and the other cars your friend owns.

But if compared to the older pick-ups like the L200, old Hilux, Fuego n/a, and Mazda B2200/B2500... it should be quite fine.

Iwan lang talaga yung current Frontier sa engine technology... pang late 1990's pa siya sa labanan.

If it's the m/t version then it performs relatively well.

[leinahtan]

Dominic, super yaman pala yang officemate mo, ang daming auto. So far wala pa namang negative feedback utol ko sa Nissan Frontier service nya, maybe siguro d ko tinatanong, he he he. BTW, baka may gusto pang ibenta yang officemate mo email mo ko. Tks.

[marlon22701]

4WDs was not meant for speed but rather for traversing rugged terrains....i'm not familiar w/ Nissan's 4WD controls but if it has a separate manual/electronic control, on normal city driving 4WD should be OFF, if its activated it will make the vehicle run slower on normal roads & worse will burn the 4wd components....

[OTEP]

Mas mabilis siya sa Pajero, pero compared to most of the cars in their fleet mabagal nga ang Frontier. Mabagal pero will keep on going in any terrain. Mahirap naman masyado mag-expect. Nasa 110++ bhp lang naman ang power rating ng Frontier. 3.2 liter engine na iyan sa lagay na iyan.

The model I usually drive is the 2.7. hehehe. Mas mahina pa lalo though mas magaan naman.

[marlon22701]

dunno why people will buy 4WD vehicles then complain about speed.....just can't get it....

[oldblue]

dunno why people will buy 4WD vehicles then complain about speed.....just can't get it....

yun ba frontier puwede 4x2, 4x4. ako kasi d ko ginagamit 4x4 ng pickup parati ako nasa 4x2. pati nga sa baguio nakakalimutan ko i-switch sa 4x4 kasi nga nababagalan ako parang ambigat.

eh baka yun dahilan parati sila naka-4x4 kahit sa paved roads kaya ambagal

[marlon22701]

yun ba frontier puwede 4x2, 4x4. ako kasi d ko ginagamit 4x4 ng pickup parati ako nasa 4x2. pati nga sa baguio nakakalimutan ko i-switch sa 4x4 kasi nga nababagalan ako parang ambigat.

eh baka yun dahilan parati sila naka-4x4 kahit sa paved roads kaya ambagal

it should be capable of both 4x4 & 4x2 driving...again 4x4's are only meant for off-road use...even if you use the 4x4 on steep paved roads it will just make you go slower....i suggest you try to activate your 4x4 when you g up to baguio on your next trip and see the difference....

i guess that's the logical explanation that they activate the 4x4 even driving on paved roads...this is the FASTEST way to DESTROY your 4x4.....i suggest that one should read the owner's manual carefully to understand the different functions, capabilities & limits of your vehicle whether it may be A/T, manual, 4x4, etc.....

safe driving & kudos!

[OTEP]

Maybe they were not expecting it to be that slow.

Mabagal talaga ang mga trucks natin by first world standards.

But that's something one gets used to.

[ian_rex]

naninibago lang yan. iba kasi ang andar ng hindi turbo diesel. i do remember fondly, when our DMax was new, hirap din ako pabilisin. kasi nasanay sa mga gas engine na kapag tapak, may response agad. sa diesel hindi ganon, lalo pag may turbo. eventually i overcame the problem- i get to use the Dmax's tremendous torque that it go generate.

though, i rode with my friend's Frontier 2.7 Titanium, medyo mabagal nga kasi 83 hp lang yata. saka i have this feeling na hirap yung makina sa takbuhan, but on the other hand, i'm sure ok ito sa mga payloads.

[swordsman]

wala yan sa officemate ko :charing:

laki siguro ng garahe nila. di ba sila nababagalan sa 4x4 patrol nila? baka gusto nila convert to 4x2, may alam ako gusto maging 4x4 patrol nya...ahihihi

[ian_rex]

OT: if you want speed, go get a sports car. trucks aren't built to run, but for utility. personally, i'm not keen with trucks before. but the moment i got my hands on the wheels of my current ride, it wasn't bad at all. could go over where car couldn't go, would conquer even the deepest crater, and could do with cars' amenities too. just sacrifice a little comfort. but it is a very practical choice. with cars, you couldn't leave it covered with dirt, unlike trucks, the dirtier, the more handsome it becomes.

i do wonder, perhaps, they got the wrong impression because of that bouncy ride. unlike the softer suspension of cars for example, you feel one with the road. maybe its just me.

[marlon22701]

if you really want a fast 4WD SUV, go for the GMC Suburbans or Chevy Suburbans there in Pinas or GMC Sierra Pick Ups both w/ the 5.7 or 8.1 L V8 Monster engines, man i tell you the response of those trucks when you floor the pedal - ibang klase...it will give you a max speed of 150 - 160 kph...although it can reach 180 kph easily the ECM automatically limits this (cut off)

[ian_rex]

true sir, mabigat nga kapag naka-engage sa 4WD. kasi, lahat ng gulong e kumakayod. 4WD is ideal for loose terrain, for maximum traction. saka, 2 modes ng 4WD: 4H & 4L.

4H, or 4 wheel High engages all for wheels but in a high-speed gear, you can drive up to 100Kph but not over. ideal for traction, such as light snow, or loose gravel.

4L or 4 wheel Low engages all fours but in a low speed gear, maximizes the torque available. ideal for muddy terrrains, or no terrains at all.

[jappy]

kami 4x4 unit. pero minsan lang din nagagamit yung 4x4 system nya.
pag may trailing lang kasama nung mga hammers. hehehe. kargahan ang likod.

pero no comment naman ako sa performance. ok naman.
mabagal compared sa bigger suvs and gasoline vehicles.
pero nakaka overtake pa din naman.
hehehe.

[Lemon]

Maninibago ka talaga kung sanay ka sa mga gas engines. Sometimes I use my GF's Corolla on my coding day. Then pag ginamit ko na un Frontier sa gabi, medyo nababagalan na ako sa arangkada. Sanayan lang talaga. Pero sa SLEX I can do 120+KPH easily at kaya pa ng mas-mabilis.

[mazdamazda]

103hp engine + heavy pickup body + additional weight of the 4WD components + higher drag coefficient

that ain't really a recipe for fast ride.

[badkuk]

you're better off not driving pickups that fast anyways. sa higher center of gravity pa lang e mas prone ka na to tipping over

[finchy18]

para hindi ma bagal.. hehe.. pwde na din trailer..

anyways.. i have a friend na nka frontier 4x4 2.7 gold unlimited.. mabagal talaga sa takbo kasi A/t eh.. pro sa 3.2 ewan ko lng.. mabagal talaga frontier sa 2.7 A/T na pa akyat... =)

wow nice nman yan officemate mo po lagi nlang pa bago2x.. hehe

ito pa.. di kaya nka 4x4 switch ang frontier nya ? sa plane lang 2WD lng.. waaa.. 4x4 sa pa akyat lng..

[mazdamazda]

er... kahit sa paakyat hindi mo kailangan i switch to 4wd...