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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    All 4x4's get stuck regardless of make and model. The question is did it get stuck because it broke parts or was it the terrain? If it got stuck during a demo for the Dmax obviously it was intended to get stuck to make the Dmax look good.

    Defender 90 stuck.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZ6qL_nat0"]YouTube - Defender Stuck[/ame]

    Pajero stuck
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNF_uqhEs-U&feature=related"]YouTube - PAJERO STUCK[/ame]

    Dodge Power wagon w/ front and rear locking differential stuck
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Zve_hn0SM"]YouTube - me getin stuck[/ame]

    Jeep Rubicon w/ front and rear locking differential stuck
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDMBi_WQwz0"]YouTube - Stuck Jeep JK Rubicon gets help from Mile Marker Winch[/ame]

    These four vehicles are very well known to off roaders as capable vehicles and they can still get stuck.

    Here's a vid of the Frontier/Navara off road and seems pretty capable to me and used in rougher terrain than what most people go through.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOZGVmVzQdg"]YouTube - Watagan Wondering![/ame]

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    #22
    That's the thing.

    Was this an official Isuzu event? Was the Navarra the only "competitor" vehicle there, or were there others?

    If it was purely D-Max versus Navarra, then Isuzu chose to use the Navarra as a bit of marketing strategy. "Hey look! Our pick-up is a better off-roader than the best new pick-up on the market!"

    Which is a big "duh"... From the sound of it, the special edition D-Max is on knobbier tires and has better ground clearance. The Navarra, as most off-roaders already know, is on much more road-biased tires than the competition and has the lowest ground clearance of the lot.

    It's possible to construct a course to show this, but so? Not many pick-ups on the market drive as nicely as the Navarra on road (possibly the Strada and the Ranger, though the Ranger is on the stiff side) or are quite as entertaining.

    Now if it were a Navarra 4x4 off-road edition, that would be something.

    Puro marketing lang yun. If they wanted to show the D-Max's off-road superiority, dapat Strada 4x4, Ranger 4x4 at Hilux 4x4 ang kalaban.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #23
    maybe din po.. maybe na kita nila ang navara na stiff competitor nila kaya sinisiraan nila.

  4. Join Date
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    #24
    sirs was there at the event, not all d-maxs' were the Bondock edition. the one I tested was the normal 4wd which has the bridgestone h/t tires. the navara owner was there to witness the event and tried parts of the track lang. yes even the most capable offroader gets stuck.

    the only thing that will settle this issue is that there is a showdown of all the pick-ups available on the market today. which should happen soon daw.

    in the same event the dmax also got stuck, this we can say that it depended on the driver na kay same vehicle ang ginagamit.

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    #25
    hmm kailan kaya yang showdown? mukhang ok yan ah..

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    #26
    Yup... let's wait for a proper test. But it is true, the tires and the driver can have a big factor to this. I've seen Tamaraw FXs wearing a/t tires go through tough spots in the province where some 4x4s got stuck.

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