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    Car went on jerking while accelerating several weeks ago until it failed to start ultimately. I immediately changed the fuel filter and the 4 spark plugs, even removed the throttle body and cleaned it. Still it's having a hard time starting.

    I made some research and ask some experienced people with the GA16 engine and they said that I should check the ignition coil. I removed the ignition coil and had it tested is Banawe, turned out that it is really not supplying enough electricity, so I bought a new one.

    Car started, lasted for 10mins and slowly dies again... Whew!

    Out of frustration, I went on and check the fuel pump since I am not hearing it buzz when I put the key to ACC, without asking so many questions, I bought a replacement and put it back inside the tank.

    Again, car started, lasted for 10mins and slowly dies...

    This case is proving really really hard for me, I cannot think of anything.

    I need your help guys...

    Vacuum leak? ECU Prob? TPS? - Should I check these things as well

    *** Also, when I removed the distributor, I forgot to mark the screw so Im not sure if it's the original position of it when I put it back, will it make any difference?***

    Thanks so much in advance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaykikz View Post
    Car went on jerking while accelerating several weeks ago until it failed to start ultimately. I immediately changed the fuel filter and the 4 spark plugs, even removed the throttle body and cleaned it. Still it's having a hard time starting.

    I made some research and ask some experienced people with the GA16 engine and they said that I should check the ignition coil. I removed the ignition coil and had it tested is Banawe, turned out that it is really not supplying enough electricity, so I bought a new one.

    Car started, lasted for 10mins and slowly dies again... Whew!

    Out of frustration, I went on and check the fuel pump since I am not hearing it buzz when I put the key to ACC, without asking so many questions, I bought a replacement and put it back inside the tank.

    Again, car started, lasted for 10mins and slowly dies...

    This case is proving really really hard for me, I cannot think of anything.

    I need your help guys...

    Vacuum leak? ECU Prob? TPS? - Should I check these things as well

    *** Also, when I removed the distributor, I forgot to mark the screw so Im not sure if it's the original position of it when I put it back, will it make any difference?***

    Thanks so much in advance...
    To eliminate the frustration (and possible worsening of the problem), have you considered bringing it to Nissan? I personally like the service of Nissan North EDSA.

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    i think i had experienced that before sa B14 ko, pero ganun pa din, trial and error din.
    palit din ako lahat, including HT wires, starter..... until napalitan yung distributor.

    pero tama, ipa scan mo na din muna siguro..

    ano ba yung starting? may redondo ba? o click lang?

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    i think i had experienced that before sa B14 ko, pero ganun pa din, trial and error din.
    palit din ako lahat, including HT wires, starter..... until napalitan yung distributor.

    pero tama, ipa scan mo na din muna siguro..

    ano ba yung starting? may redondo ba? o click lang?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    To eliminate the frustration (and possible worsening of the problem), have you considered bringing it to Nissan? I personally like the service of Nissan North EDSA.
    I will consider this, thanks so much Sir. The problem only is I have to tow the car since I can't use it to go there as it is... It dies every 5-10mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    i think i had experienced that before sa B14 ko, pero ganun pa din, trial and error din.
    palit din ako lahat, including HT wires, starter..... until napalitan yung distributor.

    pero tama, ipa scan mo na din muna siguro..

    ano ba yung starting? may redondo ba? o click lang?

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    i think i had experienced that before sa B14 ko, pero ganun pa din, trial and error din.
    palit din ako lahat, including HT wires, starter..... until napalitan yung distributor.

    pero tama, ipa scan mo na din muna siguro..

    ano ba yung starting? may redondo ba? o click lang?

    Nag-iistart naman cya Sir kaso namamatay after 10mins or so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    i think i had experienced that before sa B14 ko, pero ganun pa din, trial and error din.
    palit din ako lahat, including HT wires, starter..... until napalitan yung distributor.

    pero tama, ipa scan mo na din muna siguro..

    ano ba yung starting? may redondo ba? o click lang?

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    i think i had experienced that before sa B14 ko, pero ganun pa din, trial and error din.
    palit din ako lahat, including HT wires, starter..... until napalitan yung distributor.

    pero tama, ipa scan mo na din muna siguro..

    ano ba yung starting? may redondo ba? o click lang?

    Nag-iistart naman cya Sir kaso namamatay after 10mins or so...

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    ok....
    you have to determine if its electrical or fuel related.
    have you checked na din the high tension wires?

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    ok....
    you have to determine if its electrical or fuel related.
    have you checked na din the high tension wires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    ok....
    you have to determine if its electrical or fuel related.
    have you checked na din the high tension wires?

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    ok....
    you have to determine if its electrical or fuel related.
    have you checked na din the high tension wires?
    I did a manual check on the high tension wires, unplugging each of it while the engine is running to see if the engine would run and sounds like it's out of time, so far as the manual test goes it went good. Do you have any ways and means of testing it Sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    ok....
    you have to determine if its electrical or fuel related.
    have you checked na din the high tension wires?

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    ok....
    you have to determine if its electrical or fuel related.
    have you checked na din the high tension wires?
    I did a manual check on the high tension wires, unplugging each of it while the engine is running to see if the engine would run and sound like it's out of time, so far as the manual test goes it went good. Do you have any ways and means of testing it Sir?

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    If it dies every five to ten, that's a heat-related issue... and could very well be electrical... might want to check the new coil you bought and see if it's okay.

    I had a similar issue and went through several coils... only to find out the ECU was shorting everything out.

    Best to take it in and have all the wiring checked.

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    If it dies every five to ten, that's a heat-related issue... and could very well be electrical... might want to check the new coil you bought and see if it's okay.

    I had a similar issue and went through several coils... only to find out the ECU was shorting everything out.

    Best to take it in and have all the wiring checked.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    So if the ECU shorts everything, ECU have to be replaced?

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    On my B14 which I owned several years ago, a similar issue was fixed by cleaning the fuel injectors...

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    It fires to ignite from cranking the starter. It runs after igniting the engine. Then after a 10 minute run, it dies... After all you have replaced, inspect and cleaned parts you have suspected. Have you ever checked and inspect your engine oil? Do you have, and is it between the specified level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodetor View Post
    It fires to ignite from cranking the starter. It runs after igniting the engine. Then after a 10 minute run, it dies... After all you have replaced, inspect and cleaned parts you have suspected. Have you ever checked and inspect your engine oil? Do you have, and is it between the specified level?

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    Last time I checked yes sir its level is fairly right. Would you think cleaning the fuel lines can be of help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaykikz View Post
    Last time I checked yes sir its level is fairly right. Would you think cleaning the fuel lines can be of help?
    In simple way to do muna. Na-tsek mo na ba yun cap at rotor arm ng distributor mo?

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    Stop guessing and hoping. Check the intake manifold vacuum with a gauge and observe. A good indication is between 17-21 inHg(inches of mercury). If it slowly drops and the engine stalls, it is for sure plugged exhaust system. With it too, hook up a fuel pressure gauge. Fuel should read around 40psig at idle

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    I will follow your advice guys. Will give you feedback. Thanks so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaykikz View Post
    I will follow your advice guys. Will give you feedback. Thanks so much
    Do a proper diagnostics. The results should answer yes or no, on or off or in numbers of measurement. Avoid maybe, sort of, "baka" and the anecdotal "ganyan ang nangyari sa kotse ko". Remember, not all situations are the same, not all cars are the same therefore solutions are not all the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    Do a proper diagnostics. The results should answer yes or no, on or off or in numbers of measurement. Avoid maybe, sort of, "baka" and the anecdotal "ganyan ang nangyari sa kotse ko". Remember, not all situations are the same, not all cars are the same therefore solutions are not all the same
    Oo naman. Tama ka dun. Different brands and models have their own solutions. [emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaykikz View Post
    So if the ECU shorts everything, ECU have to be replaced?
    If your ECU is shorted and have that problem, it will not start and run at all, in that short interval time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaykikz View Post
    Last time I checked yes sir its level is fairly right. Would you think cleaning the fuel lines can be of help?
    Your fuel lines... Form tank, through fuel lines, to fuel filter before coming into fuel rail injectors. You just had replaced your fuel filter and also your fuel pump at the tank. When you start your car and runs. Do you let it run at idle, observing, and when reaching 10 mins, it stalls or stops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodetor View Post
    Your fuel lines... Form tank, through fuel lines, to fuel filter before coming into fuel rail injectors. You just had replaced your fuel filter and also your fuel pump at the tank. When you start your car and runs. Do you let it run at idle, observing, and when reaching 10 mins, it stalls or stops?

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    Yes it runs then after about 10mins, engine just stops running and die.

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    What are the stats and parameters? You can keep writing about the symptoms but it will never fix itself

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