2022 Nissan X-Trail E-Power

[111prez]

launched in Japan ...



source: from another "site that cannot be cited"

[ice15]

The fourth-generation Nissan X-Trail debuts with e-POWER and e-4ORCE tech | C!

More specifically, the latest X-Trail comes with Nissan’s e-POWER drive system and e-4ORCE all-wheel drive technology. If the former sounds familiar, it’s because it is the same technology being paraded by Nissan Philippines Inc for its upcoming Kicks e-POWER subcompact cross. Just like the Kicks, this one is powered by an electric motor driving the wheels and a gasoline engine that charges the generator to run that electric mill.

[donski]

^{Mukhang maganda to at}

[17Sphynx17]

^{Mukhang maganda to at}

Package overall of what they showed in the video is good. I wonder, assuming Kicks will be selling well (say close to Terra numbers assuming), would they consider relaunching the Xtrail but only as an ePower model?

Not completely sold on the face of the Xtrail though, but could "live with it".

But I wonder why there is a need to make it a 1.5L Turbo engine from the Kicks' 1.2L NA Engine, when both do have the same battery pack of 1.8kW right? I sort of get if it is for the 4WD/AWD model of the Xtrail, but how about the 4x2 unit when there is no 2nd motor for the rear? Just a curiosity on my end. The third row subtitle didn't make sense. Did they mean 160cm tall person can comfortably fit in the third row? Because the subtitle showed it as 1foot 60 inches (which would translate to 6ft height/+/-180cm) hehe!

[ice15]

Nissan X-Trail e-Power To Make ASEAN Debut | CarGuide

Nissan is giving its X-Trail e-Power a regional debut at the Singapore Motor Show 2023

[_Qwerty_]

magkano naman kaya.. pag lampas 1.5M masyado na mahal..

Nissan X-Trail e-Power To Make ASEAN Debut | CarGuide

[ice15]

magkano naman kaya.. pag lampas 1.5M masyado na mahal..

IMO, they can price it around the Rav-4 range (2.5M)

[17Sphynx17]

IMO, they can price it around the Rav-4 range (2.5M)

If 4x2 siya na single motor model as a base model, and if strictly epower lineup ang ilalabas ng Nissan PH (with no plugin to charge feature like the Kicks ePower din), kung kaya nila close to TOTL price of Corolla Cross ang pricing and lower than basemodel Rav4 hybrid? So, for a basemodel Xtrail e-Power 4x2, pricing it somewhere in the region of 1.8m to 1.9m php may be able to entice somewhat Corolla Cross hybrid customer to reconsider the Xtrail? And as it undercuts the Rav4, also draw the same crowd. And if they spec it like a mid tier model feature and not completely barebones like the Kicks basemodel, then you could consider up to 2m php pricing (maybe)

Pricing wise, it caters to a completely different market segment that are choosing the Kicks ePower as it is a whole 500k php tier up price wise. So I think walang undesirable effect within Nissan PH Lineup

But that's my two cents on the matter. It would be interesting, but we also don't know how the new Innova Hybrid (or Hycross ba?) would possibly be priced for PH Market. Is it going to straddle that gap in between the Corolla Cross and Rav4?

[ice15]

But that's my two cents on the matter. It would be interesting, but we also don't know how the new Innova Hybrid (or Hycross ba?) would possibly be priced for PH Market. Is it going to straddle that gap in between the Corolla Cross and Rav4?

agree, we are not from Nissan PH

Singapore is known to prefer cars that are built in Japan (parallel imports)

And its possible that the X-Trail they're getting are JDM.

[Egan101]

IMO, they can price it around the Rav-4 range (2.5M)

2M might be a fair assumption for the local price of this Xtrail E-power.

Mahal talaga pricing ng Toyota for the RAV4. A few years back, their high trim 4x2 model was around the same price as the Forester XT and CX5 AWD despite with less features and less grunt (power/torque). The AWD model was over 2M already.


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[111prez]

Nice.

Hopefully, the price is right

More on this ....

[Egan101]

Looks pretty, comfortable enough, and offers decent quickness - I guess it will be something worth considering for my next ride.


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[111prez]

A POV drive ...

[ice15]

All-new Nissan X-Trail e-Power launching in Thailand soon? | Autoindustriya

[ice15]

What’s the gasoline-electric Nissan X-Trail really like to drive? | TopGear PH

I’m averaging about 19km/L

[H1Tman]

Nice looking. Even the Rogue was good looking when i saw it in the US.

[Verbl Kint]

Nissan got approval in the past to classify the Kicks as a BEV, which means 0% excise tax compared to a Hybrid (50%) or an ICE (100%) automobile.

Coupled with ASEAN's free trade agreement (I assume Thailand will be the source), we could see e-Power Xtrails priced lower than a Corolla Cross.

[Dr.Kamiya]

Nissan got approval in the past to classify the Kicks as a BEV, which means 0% excise tax compared to a Hybrid (50%) or an ICE (100%) automobile.

Coupled with ASEAN's free trade agreement (I assume Thailand will be the source), we could see e-Power Xtrails priced lower than a Corolla Cross.

If it's a BEV then it's zero excise (c/o TRAIN) and zero customs duties (c/o EVIDA) already, so even without ASEAN it should be cheaper.
Problem here is most dealers don't actually pass on the full tax savings to the consumer and instead pocket some of the difference as profits.

Notable exception is Hyundai and the Ioniq 5 N with a P4.2M MSRP.
US MSRP is about $68k x 60 = P4,080,000. With 12% VAT that's P4.569M, so the local casa's MSRP being even lower than just the base price + VAT it seems they are truly passing on all the savings to the buyer.

[dr. d]

If it's a BEV then it's zero excise (c/o TRAIN) and zero customs duties (c/o EVIDA) already, so even without ASEAN it should be cheaper.
Problem here is most dealers don't actually pass on the full tax savings to the consumer and instead pocket some of the difference as profits.

Notable exception is Hyundai and the Ioniq 5 N with a P4.2M MSRP.
US MSRP is about $68k x 60 = P4,080,000. With 12% VAT that's P4.569M, so the local casa's MSRP being even lower than just the base price + VAT it seems they are truly passing on all the savings to the buyer.

it will probably depend on nissan's perception of how popular the vehicle is/will be.
if the vehicle is very popular, then they can charge the proverbial full list price and folks will still fall in line for one.
if not so popular, they can charge lower, to attract buyers.

only the manufacturer knows how much the vehicle actually costs, to manufacture.

i may find some shade in how nissan managed to classify the e-power as a BEV (battery electric vehicle), but i, as a buyer, will appreciate the perceived tax brakes therein.
heh heh.

so,
which is the better buy, the kicks e-power, or the altis hybrid...?

[111prez]

looks like it is coming ... https://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-...ef=home_feed_1