where to buy good 4-stroke engines

**spyghost** · July 15th, 2008 01:12 PM

hi

tanong lang po... i am new to the motorcycle world. in fact i don't own one.

i just wanted to know where i can buy a 4 stroke motorcycle engine w/ all its interconnections. mas maganda sana kung complete with alternator, and other connections. at saka sana po is yung accessible ang tech manual.

patulong lang po. i need it in one of my projects.

ty

**Bochekokik** · July 15th, 2008 01:32 PM

Kung 4stroke engine lang, marami sa mga hardware shops, minsan sa Ace meron din, both gas and diesel fed 4 stroke engines. Marami choices, Yanmar, Robin, Honda, etc. Engine lang ito with alternator.
Pero kung 4stroke motorcycle engine (complete with transmission, clutch, alternator), I doubt kung may nagbebenta ng brandnew. Puwede yung mga repo units bilhin mo tapos kahuyin mo na lang yung engine.
Or kung sobrang dami pera, bili ka brand new motor, kahuyin na rin lang ang engine, benta mo yung iba, but of course parang scrap value na yang ibang parts.
As to the tech or workshop manual, either meron available sa internet ng libre o bibilhin mo sa dealer mismo, pero kung may kilala ka na meron, puwede mo kopyahin.
I think I have a couple of pdf file for some mc, hahanapin ko pa nga lang kung saan ko nailagay.

**spyghost** · July 15th, 2008 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bochekokik

Kung 4stroke engine lang, marami sa mga hardware shops, minsan sa Ace meron din, both gas and diesel fed 4 stroke engines. Marami choices, Yanmar, Robin, Honda, etc. Engine lang ito with alternator.
Pero kung 4stroke motorcycle engine (complete with transmission, clutch, alternator), I doubt kung may nagbebenta ng brandnew. Puwede yung mga repo units bilhin mo tapos kahuyin mo na lang yung engine.
Or kung sobrang dami pera, bili ka brand new motor, kahuyin na rin lang ang engine, benta mo yung iba, but of course parang scrap value na yang ibang parts.
As to the tech or workshop manual, either meron available sa internet ng libre o bibilhin mo sa dealer mismo, pero kung may kilala ka na meron, puwede mo kopyahin.
I think I have a couple of pdf file for some mc, hahanapin ko pa nga lang kung saan ko nailagay.

to be exact eto lang naman ang kelangan ko, 4 stroke motorcycle engine with intake and exhaust and alternator. stock lang. no need for transmission and clutch. definitely hindi brand new ang hanap ko... para atang di ako nakakita ng ganito sa ace. sang ace hardware yun?

btw, what is mc?

**Bochekokik** · July 15th, 2008 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by spyghost

to be exact eto lang naman ang kelangan ko, 4 stroke motorcycle engine with intake and exhaust and alternator. stock lang. no need for transmission and clutch. definitely hindi brand new ang hanap ko... para atang di ako nakakita ng ganito sa ace. sang ace hardware yun?

btw, what is mc?

mc = motorcycle
definitely hindi motorcycle engine ang hanap mo. Pag sinabi mo kasi na motorcycle engine, andun na ang clutch (wet clutch), transmission at alternator, all in one big assembly. Ang kailangan mo ay ordinary 4stroke engine lang (intake, exhaust,alternator).
May nakita ako before sa Ace Mall of Asia, I think its diesel fed, Sumo ang brand, similar to Yanmar diesels. Meron din sila minsan Robin at Honda. Yun nga lang brand new mga yun, medyo mahal.
Since hindi mo naman kailangan ng brandnew, try scouting for used engines, marami nyan sa buynsell. A couple of months ago somewhere along edsa, nakabili kami ng surplus/used aircooled 4stroke gas engine, Robin ang tatak. Nakahilira lang sa loob ng bodega, puwede kang pumili. Nakalimutan ko nga lang yung name ng bodega.
Yun ang mga bodega na may benta din na surplus na trak, welders, heavey equipments, etc. Inquire ka lang sa mga small engines nila. They sometimes have as small as 100cc displacements, yung tipong puede mo lang bitbitin.
As to the shop manual, try to browse the internet. Kahit brandnew pa kasi bibilhin mo, hindi ito kasama. Minsan nabibili din yan as a seperate item sa dealer.

**spyghost** · July 16th, 2008 07:22 AM

malaki ba difference ng presyo nung motorcycle engine saka yung mga small motor?

i'm opening my options again... saan saan ba merong mga surplus na motorcycle engine? meron din ba nun sa banawe?

**Bochekokik** · July 16th, 2008 12:38 PM

Not sure ako kung merong available na surplus motorcycle engines, ask mo na lang sa banawe. Kung gusto mo talaga yung motorcycle engine (complete with transmission, wet clutch alternator), one option is to get a repo unit, kahuyin mo na lang yung engine.
As to the price difference, sori bro, ala rin akong idea.

Ano nga pala ang pag gagamitan mo nito? Magkaiba ang motorcycle engine sa 4stroke na gas engine when it comes to cooling.
Sa mga 4stroke na engine, naka forced air cooling yun, meaning may built in fan na iikot sabay sa ikot ng engine, ito ang nagpapalamig sa engine. Good example would be gensets, naka forced air cooling yun.
Motorcycle engine on the other hand only depends on the air that is flowing thru its fins. Wala itong blower/fan na nagdadala ng hangin para palamigin yung engine. Kaya nga pag sa trapik, at motor ang gamit mo, umiinit ito dahil kaunti lang ang hangin na dumadaan sa fins nya.
In short, yung motorcycle engine pag umaandar pero stationary, malaki chance na mag overheat. Kailangan mo lagyan pa ng fan para magkaroon ng forced air cooling.
Try to visit www.hondaph.com, andun mga engine (not motorcycle engines), at andun din mga motorcycle models nila.