Soft, safe, and simple: all-new 2013 Outlander

**dct** · August 27th, 2012 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by slvrsrfr2301

nakita ko na new captiva sa solenad sta.rosa nung last week, parang face lift (o face lift talaga?) pangit. di ko trip, mas trip ko yun luma

yup. facelift talaga. may nagbago ba aside sa bago lang sa paningin? :D

**basti08** · August 27th, 2012 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

Nope... 1st gen was a 5+2 seater.

Nope, the 2nd gen was the 5+2 seater in most markets. Neither 1st nor 2nd gen had 3rd row for the local market, though.

and it (the 1st gen) was not offered in most markets with the Galant's 4G69 producing 160hp, it used the 4G64 shared with the local Space Gear with only 136hp, even in US.

**ghosthunter** · August 27th, 2012 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by basti08

Nope, the 2nd gen was the 5+2 seater in most markets. Neither 1st nor 2nd gen had 3rd row for the local market, though.

One thing for sure... the 2ng gen Outlander does not have the 3rd row seating so the 3rd gen Outlander should benefit from this feature. I just don't know if most buyers will fine the 2.0L gas engine to be sufficient.

**pop3corn** · August 28th, 2012 01:05 AM

May diesel ba yan

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**ghosthunter** · August 28th, 2012 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by pop3corn

May diesel ba yan

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nope... or at least the local 2013 model will not have a diesel variant. Abroad, it has a diesel version with the same HP rating.

**jut703** · August 28th, 2012 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by dct

oo nga. but compared to captiva, i think this all-new outlander has more space

Nope. This Outlander has the most cramped 3rd row I've ever been in. With the 2nd row in its default position, I couldn't fit in the 3rd row. Had to move it forward just so I could have my feet planted, though my knees were still rubbing against the 2nd row seats.

I thought the 2nd gen CR-V had the worst 3rd row ever, I was wrong.

**niky** · August 28th, 2012 11:05 AM

The Captiva, at least, was built to accomodate a third row... so it's relatively okay, if not quite as spacious as the Santa Fe or the Sorento in the back.

On cars like the Outlander or the CR-V, the third rows are an afterthought.

One thing puzzles me... 4J11? Why not 4B11? Cost cutting?

**ghosthunter** · August 28th, 2012 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by niky

The Captiva, at least, was built to accomodate a third row... so it's relatively okay, if not quite as spacious as the Santa Fe or the Sorento in the back.

On cars like the Outlander or the CR-V, the third rows are an afterthought.

One thing puzzles me... 4J11? Why not 4B11? Cost cutting?

Same question. But it is not cost cutting because if they were cost cutting, they would have definitely used the same engines.

I thought the Outlander would be using the same 4B11 engine as with the lancer ex and ASX, given it had the same range in power output and displacement. The engine looked quite similar too when I had the chance to peak under the hood of the Outlander on display.

**niky** · August 28th, 2012 05:40 PM

From a brief look, apparently Mitsubishi claims the 4J11 is lighter and more fuel efficient than the 4B11... being SOHC instead of DOHC. I wonder if the ASX and Lancer will switch to the 4J11 as well, if that's the case. The 4B11 is getting on a bit in years... we first got it locally with the Dodge Caliber several years ago, already... perhaps going SOHC, like Honda is doing with the R18 and R20... may be the ticket to higher fuel economy for Mitsubishi.