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    #1
    I'm just soliciting opinions here.

    How much better is a 4x4 A/T Field Master over a typical local-market GEN II Pajero? Are there any aspects in which the GEN II.5 is worse than the GEN II?

    Is it really worth it to step up to a relatively fresh GEN II.5 4x4 or just build up a GEN II?

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    di ba dapat ikaw ang tinatanong tungkol dyan???!!! :D hehehe

    interior would be the same, except for the stick shift- kasi a/t na yung gen2.5 na sinasabi mo

    exterior slightly different. fender flares are replaced by real fenders, grills, mags, etc..

    engine, chassis, suspension, and tranny, IMHO are all the same. super select 4wd system, coil suspension, t-bars, underbody armor

    the only difference would be the age of the vehicle. fresher engine (depends on the maintenance habits of the previous owner)

    if you're on an adventurous mood, get the gen2.5. but if you want a boring, reliable old rig, stick with your gen2.

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    otep, i was fortunate to drive both for several months when we had those pajeros...

    as for me..malayo ang performance ng bawat isa..sa suspension palang..sa feel ng makina..ewan ko..iba talaga eh.it is subjective na but definitely, may pinagkaiba talaga.

    sa batak..lamang ang fieldmaster..we had the manual 4x4, though.mabigat pero grabe ang sarap ng batak.

    i dont know..but never ko na feel yun sa gen 2.

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    Mas gusto ko pa rin ang exterior ng gen2 lalo na kapag naka 35 series na rubber. I have yet to see a 2.5 with oversized wheels.
    Sa looks lang talaga lamang yung older 1 pero everything else is slightly better in the 2.5. All in all sa tingin ko its worth it na mag-upgrade ka sa 2.5.

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    Galing din ako from 95 Gen 2 to 99 Gen 2.5 auto. hindi mausok ang gen 2.5 kahit biritin. 6 1/2 inch speaker sa front. white na yung backlite ng instrument panel. power driver seats, 50/50 split na yung 2nd row (pag 99 model maingay yung seats dahil sumasayad yung leather sa door handles, sa mga later models naayos na.

    gen 2 better ang ride, mas mabilis mag accelerate compared to AT na gen 2.5, but kaya mag 160 ng gen 2.5.

    Gen 2.5 na!

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    hmmmm somebody is upgrading his rig......herehrehrererherher

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    gen 2.5!

    pero okay yan with a 4m41 swap. :D

    to answer the question...3-way adjustable shocks. 4m40 over the 4d56.
    Last edited by nugundam93; October 17th, 2005 at 09:26 AM.

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    If budget permits, by all means get the gen 2.5!

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    Why Gen2.5?

    Leather Seats (easier to maintain)
    1" Body Lift (if AT)
    Better Looking White Gauges (subjective)
    Better Compass ( )
    Driver Side SRS
    MAS POGI
    Split Folding Rear Seats
    Door Mounted speakers in addition to dash mounted
    Front Courtesy lamps
    Leatherette sidings (easier to maintain)
    3-Way adjustable suspension (either a boon or a curse depending on your POV)
    Better Power Window switches

    ...and heck, its always advisable to get a newer car.

    WHY NOT?

    Weaker AC
    Fake Wood
    Slower (if 4M40-AT)
    Not much else


    Palit ka na Otep! All white naman gawin mo tapos photoshoot tayo ehehe. Pero parang di bagay all white. The lightest color which looks good monotone is Silver IMO.

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    ofroad looks n ok ang gen 2 kasi u got the falres unlike the gen2.5, metal bodt n wala ng flares. sus pension lam,anmg din gen2.5 but magastos. for me, gen 2 pa din.

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    otep,
    still contemplating on changing ba?

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    Nothing final yet pa naman. But here are some advantages of the GEN II from my POV:
    *Removable stepboards and flexible mudguards. I literally drove down a set of steep concrete stairs on my Pajero without hitting anything. I was just to lazy to back up (besides, rear vision is horrible).
    *The flares and cladding really do their job of protecting the bodywork. Battle tested ko na.
    *Suspension seats!
    *Forward facing third-row with seatbelts.

    The main factors going for the II.5 would be the better (but still simple and robust) engine and the automatic tranny (my left foot will thank me for it). And the fact that it will be three years newer than my present rig.

    Oh well bahala na si Batman. hehehe.

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    gen 2.5 for me!! for the simple reason that the gen 2 looks a trifle geriatric hehehe.

    hey, i care at least a little about those things :D

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    pero pwede rin naman tanggalin stepboard nung gen 2.5 and the "mudguards" diba? :D

    otep, with a rig like yours, i imagine that you would drive up or down concrete stairs if you want to. hehehehe.

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    Sarap i-drive ang gen 2,5 lalo na kung AT. Ask happiman, I drove his from sagada to manila, no brainer when overtaking, just mash the gas pedal and away it goes. Tahimik ang interior. Tess was asleep the whole time. eto lang po ang experience ko sa gen 2.5. BTW, adjustable yun suspension niya. plus may digital tire pressure gauge siya.

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    1 Gen 2.5 please.

    The bigger engine definitely gives the advantage.

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    Mister oteps,

    2001 GU Patrol nalang kasi kayang kaya mo yun :D

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    yup, i agree with MBT, patrol na lang para iba naman interior =)

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    Uh try nyo nga ma convince si Otep mag Patrol... Mukhang DieHard Pajero Guy si Doc Otep

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightRock
    Uh try nyo nga ma convince si Otep mag Patrol... Mukhang DieHard Pajero Guy si Doc Otep
    Madali lang yan... tawag tayo ng mga Patrol boys and girls at paligawin natin si Doc. I drove a spanking new 2005 GU 4x4 m/t last week and boy i hate going back to my pick-up afterwards.
    Last edited by vinj; October 21st, 2005 at 01:14 PM.

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