Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

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[Ry_Tower]

500k? Baba naman...

Bid ko 510k -- any sellers?

Ry tower-- baka later on Lahat tAyo Naka MONTORO na... He he...

Actually kaya mura gusto ko kasi ibebenta ko din. Hahaha

Grabe ka tinalo mo na bids namon ni shadow. Serious pa naman ako.

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[glenn manikis]

Actually kaya mura gusto ko kasi ibebenta ko din. Hahaha

Grabe ka tinalo mo na bids namon ni shadow. Serious pa naman ako.

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Sa 510k na yun... Tatawad pa ako... He he... Impt. AKO unang pm nila... He he

[xagent_orangex]

dapat itong dalawang gunggong na to ang kasuhan e.


kapag ba nagloko (nag wild, o pag sinapian ng demonyo) na ang engine e hindi na kakagat ang preno?

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i (first) saw james deakin on CNN philippines. at first (with all due respect), I thought he was a car salesman (no disrespect to car salesmen).

if you consider him an expert, we don't have to go far. we have our own niky here.

Its your opinion bro. Ano ba iexpect ko sa sagot mo.

[aioshin]

Pag sinapian Kasi, lahat nung pwedeng tapakan naging accelerator... 😈
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[frostmourn]

From the ANC headlines earlier today, there's gonna be a DTI probe on the SUA issue next week. I think though, that regardless of the results of the investigation, no matter how many experts they bring in, people will not accept anything other than, "It's Mitsubishi's fault" as an answer.

Like what Deakin said, social media has prejudged the issue, and people will not let the truth get in the way of their preconceived notions.

Personally, I sit at the camp that believes that these SUA cases are mostly, if not entirely, due to driver error. That said, there are a few design elements on the Montero's transmission that make it more susceptible to SUA than other cars.

The first question that is asked for anyone who makes this stand, is "why not the Fortuner or any other AT?". Simple answer - gated shifter and shift lock. The Montero has a straight shifter that allows it to be shifted from R to N to D and any combination of the aforementioned positions without having to step on the brakes. If Mitsubishi were to be held liable for something, it'd be this. However, it has since been rectified (for later models) and it obviously wasn't a known manufacturing defect so you can't say that it was a deliberate lack of foresight on their end. Nonetheless, a crude shifter doesn't give people who don't step on the brakes before changing between gears the right to blame the car instead of themselves. Pedal placement of the Montero isn't any different from other ATs I've driven so anyone with a fair bit of driving experience should easily be able to distinguish the gas and brake pedals.

"Okay then, so what about the Strada?"

Among all theories presented, buyer demographics seems to be the most plausible - everyone wants a Montero, but Stradas are only bought by people looking for pickups, and that bunch doesn't usually include old people who aren't very good at adapting to different cars and different AT setups.

And similar to the Toyota incident presented by Deakin, it's quite obvious that many people have ridden the SUA bandwagon even if it really was a driver error. It works both ways - because the driver knows of the alleged SUA phenomenon, he's quick to blame the hardware for whatever driver error he committed that resulted in his Montero crashing into a wall. On the other side of the fence, people are more likely to believe that it was a case of SUA simply because they think that it's just like the "many other cases of SUA" reported in the media. And that leads me to my next point - media has blown the case way out of proportion, and has coaxed many people towards the "SUA exists" camp, because that's where their own biases lie.

And what's interesting is that people tend to feel as strongly about their SUA stand as they do with their political candidates. Which is why it's no surprise that this thread racks up dozens of pages per day even if the same arguments are recycled over and over - no different from political threads.

Ultimately, this whole SUA brouhaha won't affect my personal choice and recommendations for getting an SUV. I'm not a big fan of the Montero but not because of SUA.

It could potentially affect the resale value of used Monteros, but I doubt it because this issue is simply a flavor of the month, and once the media stops focusing on it, the people who're so vocal about SUA will suddenly forget about it and move on to the next flavor of the month they can feast on.

I also doubt it'll have an impact on the sales of the new one (the ugly rear will have a bigger impact I bet).

Anyway, that's just my two cents. Enjoy your daily dose of bickering. [emoji106]🏼


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Nice review sir Jut.

Hey Mr. Juan Martinez. How about the opinion of Mr. Jut.

[ClaNker]

The Montero has a straight shifter that allows it to be shifted from R to N to D and any combination of the aforementioned positions without having to step on the brakes. If Mitsubishi were to be held liable for something, it'd be this. However, it has since been rectified (for later models) and it obviously wasn't a known manufacturing defect so you can't say that it was a deliberate lack of foresight on their end. Nonetheless, a crude shifter doesn't give people who don't step on the brakes before changing between gears the right to blame the car instead of themselves.

Nice review sir Jut.

Hey Mr. Juan Martinez. How about the opinion of Mr. Jut.

If that was rectified then the question is was there ever a recall to rectify the design flaw of the old models? Surely you just can't blame consumer for being stupid because of your design flaw, yes?

[dct]

dapat itong dalawang gunggong na to ang kasuhan e.


kapag ba nagloko (nag wild, o pag sinapian ng demonyo) na ang engine e hindi na kakagat ang preno?

Kahit sabihin nating di kakagat preno dapat may ilaw. Na halata naman sa videos na walang ilaw