Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[glenn_duke]

Daming experst ngayon sa sensors, kahit ang basis ay from cases of different car make and models.
Maganda sana sagutin din kung bakit Phil MS lang ang may mga faulty sensors (?) at wala ni isang case sa ibang MS sa ibang bansa.
Lahat naman ng MS sa Asia ay assembled sa Thailand. Iba ba ang parts na ginagamit pag Phil MS?

Kung lahat ng parts ay similar sa lahat ng MS across Asia, then malamang ang faulty ay yung mga sensors ng mga Philippine drivers, na hindi naman kataka taka.

[Junesp111]

Daming experst ngayon sa sensors, kahit ang basis ay from cases of different car make and models.
Maganda sana sagutin din kung bakit Phil MS lang ang may mga faulty sensors (?) at wala ni isang case sa ibang MS sa ibang bansa.
Lahat naman ng MS sa Asia ay assembled sa Thailand. Iba ba ang parts na ginagamit pag Phil MS?

Kung lahat ng parts ay similar sa lahat ng MS across Asia, then malamang ang faulty ay yung mga sensors ng mga Philippine drivers, na hindi naman kataka taka.

Pwede mag cause ng sensor failure yung humidity which is very high dito sa Pilipinas.

[spotdog11]

Pwede mag cause ng sensor failure yung humidity which is very high dito sa Pilipinas.

What about the brakes sir? How could it fail and leave no trace after the incident? What about the brake lights? A stuck throttle is not uncommon in older cars with accelerator cable. It was never an issue since majority of old cars were MT. The focus should be on the brakes since it is a separate system and powered by hydraulic pressure. A stuck throttle would not be an issue if the driver is only stepping on the brake pedal.

[xagent_orangex]

What about the brakes sir? How could it fail and leave no trace after the incident? What about the brake lights? A stuck throttle is not uncommon in older cars with accelerator cable. It was never an issue since majority of old cars were MT. The focus should be on the brakes since it is a separate system and powered by hydraulic pressure. A stuck throttle would not be an issue if the driver is only stepping on the brake pedal.

sensor nga daw. lahat ng parte ng montero e connected sa sensor. pag nasira na yung sensor, damay na lahat

[Junesp111]

What about the brakes sir? How could it fail and leave no trace after the incident? What about the brake lights? A stuck throttle is not uncommon in older cars with accelerator cable. It was never an issue since majority of old cars were MT. The focus should be on the brakes since it is a separate system and powered by hydraulic pressure. A stuck throttle would not be an issue if the driver is only stepping on the brake pedal.

Yung pag apply mo ng break pina process din yan ng ECU dahil may ABS (Anti-lock braking system) yung vehicle. See link for ABS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system

Now kung yung engine mo is in full throttle and being sense by ECU, yung ECU will not apply a full break but it will apply slowly the break base on the calculation of ECU to apply the ABS.

[spotdog11]

Yung pag apply mo ng break pina process din yan ng ECU dahil may ABS (Anti-lock braking system) yung vehicle. See link for ABS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system

Now kung yung engine mo is in full throttle and being sense by ECU, yung ECU will not apply a full break but it will apply slowly the break base on the calculation of ECU to apply the ABS.

I would disagree sir since I personally have tried applying brakes on a several car models while in full throttle. I never had any issue with stopping the car. ABS will only interfere with the brake if it senses irregular wheel spin on the four wheels but it will never decrease braking power. It even increases braking power to begin with.
The Unintended Acceleration Test - Motor Trend

[whiteb16a]

Yung pag apply mo ng break pina process din yan ng ECU dahil may ABS (Anti-lock braking system) yung vehicle. See link for ABS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system

Now kung yung engine mo is in full throttle and being sense by ECU, yung ECU will not apply a full break but it will apply slowly the break base on the calculation of ECU to apply the ABS.

Your statement is flawed.. calculation of the ECU is solely based on the rotational speed of the wheels, ie, sensed by abs sensors, 4 of them, thus called 4-channel ABS. The amount of brake force is not ECU dependent but hydraulics dependent. In a vehicle not equipped with ABS, the brake locks the wheels if you stomp on the brake hard and sudden. ABS mitigates the locking of the wheels by summoning the ABS hydraulic circuitry to give pulsating force to individual brakes, depending on the rotational speed of the wheel, hence the "tak" "tak" sound you hear when ABS activates, thus no wheel locking.

Now, to contest your claim na hindi mag aaply fully ang brake pag full throttle ka, try this experiment... try driving on a wet road, say 60kph, then shift to neutral..so car is coasting,.. stomp on the accelerator hard to WOT...then brake hard...ABS activates.

[glenn_duke]

Pwede mag cause ng sensor failure yung humidity which is very high dito sa Pilipinas.

Have you been to Indonesia, Thailand, South America (Brazil). where the humidity is also at 20-35%?
MS were also exported to these countries, have you heard of a MS SUA from these countries?
So rule out humidity.

[jigs_xix]

So we question the Japanese automotive technology versus the Philippine driver's license issuance system?
If only the brake and gas pedals can issue an affidavit to these SUA complains :rofl:

[ClaNker]

Wow so any electronic or mechanical issue is ruled out.

Brilliant.